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Not me saying that...

“There is a lot of nonsense spoken that Leon and Billy can’t play together,” said Wilder. “For me, it’s absolute garbage".

But our manager Chrissy is saying it.

We seem to have a fair few on here who keep coming out with this rubbish that Clarke can't play with Sharp. So, if you're one of them, take note of what Chris is saying to you. You're wrong - and he's right. And I back him 100% on that.

For the record I've said before that:

Done isn't a striker
Clarke can play with Sharp
Lavery would be a better bet than Done
Lafferty isn't very good and we should play Done there instead
Ebanks-Landell is good but no world-beater and not irreplaceable
Scougall won't make it at this club
The team lacks pace
We will be promoted in auto

Anyhow - I know I can't be right about all these things, possibly, but as long as I'm right about the last one that will do. Meanwhile though, I do think some of you should just give Clarke a break and try and appreciate him for what he can bring to the team, in a striker role alongside Billy.

He scored 18 goals last season for a poor Bury team and he only played about 30 games. He's now looking fully fit and quite sharp if you ask me - so let's see how sharp he is with Sharp?
 



Nowt to do with them playing together, Clarke is a fucking carthorse who seldom gets a start because he's crap. The manager's hardly going to come out and say that but the fact that he rarely gives him a start suggests that he knows it.

If you want his (Clarkes) babies then fill your boots, some of us think he's nowt but a lazy ex pig who we wouldn't miss if he pissed off tomorrow.
 
Clarkes fitness has been an issue, plus his lack of ball control, his laziness and the fact that he's guff. Replace Done by all means, but please God not with this lump.
 
Done sets the tempo, and so does clarke, one of them slows it right down and makes it easy for the opposition.....can you guess which one does that?

I like Leon clarke, but you have to set the whole team up to play solely for him, just like we have to for sharp, and that's why I don't think they'll play well together in this team.. done/sharp..... lavery/sharp...... clarke only as a late sub unless a long term injury to billy, clarke has no pace or stamina for a first 60 mins..
 
Nowt to do with them playing together, Clarke is a fucking carthorse who seldom gets a start because he's crap. The manager's hardly going to come out and say that but the fact that he rarely gives him a start suggests that he knows it.

If you want his (Clarkes) babies then fill your boots, some of us think he's nowt but a lazy ex pig who we wouldn't miss if he pissed off tomorrow.


Erm erm Did I not read, only two minutes ago that Clarke banged 18 Goals into the old onion bag only last season ? Me thinks someone is being a tad harsh on the lad. I dont give a flying fuck that he once played for the wendy. He can be as lazy as he cares to be if he comes close to anything like that many goals for us. FFS he is one of ours. Cut him some slack.
 
Boy you're up with the lark talking about Clarke and Sharp.
Emerged from under your Tarp or off to catch a Carp?
It's still very dark to be taking a walk in the park wondering today who is going to make their mark.
You know your title will promote you as the Nark but remember as you disembark on your way to our great Ark that it may become stark that Clarke and Sharp have already had the spark so that they prowl like shark allowing Cerberus to quieten his bark.
 
Boy you're up with the lark talking about Clarke and Sharp.
Emerged from under your Tarp or off to catch a Carp?
It's still very dark to be taking a walk in the park wondering today who is going to make their mark.
You know your title will promote you as the Nark but remember as you disembark on your way to our great Ark that it may become stark that Clarke and Sharp have already had the spark so that they prowl like shark allowing Cerberus to quieten his bark.

Exactly what I was about to say.
 
Clarkes fitness has been an issue, plus his lack of ball control, his laziness and the fact that he's guff. Replace Done by all means, but please God not with this lump.
Jeez, has he slept with your Mrs or something?

Of course he's not a World beater or anywhere near that and of course he's not going to start much because the current plan and formation has been working for some time now. He offers us something different and if we didn't have him, we'd have no direct option and someone to hold the ball up or flick the ball on like he can compared to our other attackers.
We'll see how much Wilder rates Clarke in the JTW but whilst he's wearing the shirt, why not just get behind him? A novel idea but it might just help.......
 
Really dont understand the constant accusation that Clarke is lazy. Whenever I have watched him play with Sharp, its Sharp who is the lazy one. He gets away with it because he can do nothing for 70 minutes then score. Thats fine by me, but I dont understand why Clarke gets hammered for it. Personally, I dont like them playing together as I just dont think it works. Its nothing against Clarke.
 
Of course they can play together.

They're just not an effective partnership in our system.

We've played pretty badly every time they've started together.

Let's give them another run of games together despite us winning more and looking better when we start with a different pair. Doesn't matter if we drop a few points again if they start to gel by mid February...

Wilder isn't going to say 'Billy and Leon can't play together'. He says it how it is but he isn't going to basically tell Leon that as long as Billy is about then he has no chance of starting.
 
Not sure why some says he's lazy. Cut out an Oldham corner with a good defensive header and was up front shortly after to contribute to an attacking move. He will do a job for us this year even if he doesn't play 90 mins week in week out. My only concern is the 3 year contract; if we get promoted we will need to improve on our current attacking options.
 
Not me saying that...

“There is a lot of nonsense spoken that Leon and Billy can’t play together,” said Wilder. “For me, it’s absolute garbage".

But our manager Chrissy is saying it.

We seem to have a fair few on here who keep coming out with this rubbish that Clarke can't play with Sharp. So, if you're one of them, take note of what Chris is saying to you. You're wrong - and he's right. And I back him 100% on that.

For the record I've said before that:

Done isn't a striker
Clarke can play with Sharp
Lavery would be a better bet than Done
Lafferty isn't very good and we should play Done there instead
Ebanks-Landell is good but no world-beater and not irreplaceable
Scougall won't make it at this club
The team lacks pace
We will be promoted in auto

Anyhow - I know I can't be right about all these things, possibly, but as long as I'm right about the last one that will do. Meanwhile though, I do think some of you should just give Clarke a break and try and appreciate him for what he can bring to the team, in a striker role alongside Billy.

He scored 18 goals last season for a poor Bury team and he only played about 30 games. He's now looking fully fit and quite sharp if you ask me - so let's see how sharp he is with Sharp?
Regards Clarke, I'm surprised by the criticism he's had. He was poor at the start of the season, albeit playing in a struggling team, and the link up with Sharp wasn't evident (not all Clarke's fault) but since he came back from injury he is showing some of the qualities that helped him bag 18/19 goals last year. I think one problem for him and Sharp as a pairing is that they both like to play with their backs to goal and perhaps that allows the opposition to play a higher line which squeezes our space. Done, whilst hardly Usain Bolt does want to run the channels and that means that slow league1 centre backs have to drop a bit deeper, which helps our midfield. As things stand, I'd still be starting Done, with Clarke as an option if it isn't working for Done (which is quite often). I suppose that the answer lies with a pacey, goalscorer being signed in January.

Agree the team lacks pace, and that needs to addressed in January.
 
Not me saying that...

“There is a lot of nonsense spoken that Leon and Billy can’t play together,” said Wilder. “For me, it’s absolute garbage".

But our manager Chrissy is saying it.

We seem to have a fair few on here who keep coming out with this rubbish that Clarke can't play with Sharp. So, if you're one of them, take note of what Chris is saying to you. You're wrong - and he's right. And I back him 100% on that.

For the record I've said before that:

Done isn't a striker
Clarke can play with Sharp
Lavery would be a better bet than Done
Lafferty isn't very good and we should play Done there instead
Ebanks-Landell is good but no world-beater and not irreplaceable
Scougall won't make it at this club
The team lacks pace
We will be promoted in auto

Anyhow - I know I can't be right about all these things, possibly, but as long as I'm right about the last one that will do. Meanwhile though, I do think some of you should just give Clarke a break and try and appreciate him for what he can bring to the team, in a striker role alongside Billy.

He scored 18 goals last season for a poor Bury team and he only played about 30 games. He's now looking fully fit and quite sharp if you ask me - so let's see how sharp he is with Sharp?

Well done you for being right all the time. On point 4 of your list can you ask Chris Wilder if he also agrees if Done should play in Lafferty's position?
 
Not so much as said Clarke can't play with Sharp, but quite a few on here have said based on what we have seen so far, Sharp and Clarke as a partnership don't seem to be hitting it off(myself included) Think that was a fair call at the time but the last half an hour against Oldham gives us hope that might change particularly now his fitness should be there. Let's not get too giddy yet though as it's taken half a season to happen. Still think ALL the strikers will play there part in the next 4 months
 



“There is a lot of nonsense spoken that Leon and Billy can’t play together,” said Wilder. “For me, it’s absolute garbage".

He might be saying it but his actions speak differently - he's not picking Clarke to start with Sharp despite going into the season believing they were our best pairing.

Also, please stop recommending Matt Done at left back.
 
There was a stat recently about minutes on a pitch for a substitute and points won. Clarke was 2nd best in the football league (ie most points gained per sub appearance), and there was two more last time out. Don't want to use the 'unseen work' phrase but he seems to be doing something right...more right than the criticism he gets deserves.
 
Was Clarke lazy against Oldham when he sprinted 40 yard to stop a ball going out for a throw in.. to then go and win a corner??

Done does that and we all hail his work rate!

I like Big Leon - if we didn't have him there would be numerous threads saying we need a big striker at the club to compliment our little'ns
 
Nowt to do with them playing together, Clarke is a fucking carthorse who seldom gets a start because he's crap. The manager's hardly going to come out and say that but the fact that he rarely gives him a start suggests that he knows it.

If you want his (Clarkes) babies then fill your boots, some of us think he's nowt but a lazy ex pig who we wouldn't miss if he pissed off tomorrow.

If he's crap why did wilder buy him?
 
OP seems obsessed with changing the perfectly working Sharp/Done partnership - see this thread, a previous Clarke thread, a previous some guy from Chesterfield thread. And we're the ones talking garbage?
 
Boy you're up with the lark talking about Clarke and Sharp.
Emerged from under your Tarp or off to catch a Carp?
It's still very dark to be taking a walk in the park wondering today who is going to make their mark.
You know your title will promote you as the Nark but remember as you disembark on your way to our great Ark that it may become stark that Clarke and Sharp have already had the spark so that they prowl like shark allowing Cerberus to quieten his bark.
The bard of S24
 
Jeez, has he slept with your Mrs or something?

Of course he's not a World beater or anywhere near that and of course he's not going to start much because the current plan and formation has been working for some time now. He offers us something different and if we didn't have him, we'd have no direct option and someone to hold the ball up or flick the ball on like he can compared to our other attackers.
We'll see how much Wilder rates Clarke in the JTW but whilst he's wearing the shirt, why not just get behind him? A novel idea but it might just help.......
 
OP seems obsessed with changing the perfectly working Sharp/Done partnership - see this thread, a previous Clarke thread, a previous some guy from Chesterfield thread. And we're the ones talking garbage?

The partnership is not perfect, in fact Wilder withdrew Done early against Oldham because he was doing nothing productive and this wasn't the first time he's had an early finish lately. Clarke has had a few opportunities to make the shirt his and has done nothing to hang on to it, I like Leon coming on from the bench as an impact sub. Lavery is the mystery at the minute, a few little cameo's and glimpses of quality but Wilder obviously doesn't think he's the perfect partner for Billy either (at the minute anyway). Would be very surprised if Wilder's big signing in January isn't a striker as the 3 listed above cannot hold down the shirt.
 
If they could successfully play together, with their goal records, they would be starting every game. They clearly aren't the best partnership and we do a lot better when there's pace playing next to Sharp. Done causes errors and creates space and chances for Sharp. Simple as. He's not a great striker and not going to be scoring 15/20 goals but he's going to add that to the goal tally of other players.
 



Not me saying that...

“There is a lot of nonsense spoken that Leon and Billy can’t play together,” said Wilder. “For me, it’s absolute garbage".

But our manager Chrissy is saying it.

We seem to have a fair few on here who keep coming out with this rubbish that Clarke can't play with Sharp. So, if you're one of them, take note of what Chris is saying to you. You're wrong - and he's right. And I back him 100% on that.

Bet he's delighted he's got your backing Cerberus. The only thing is, he isn't talking about anyone on here, because as he's previously said, he doesn't read fans forums. ;)
 

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