So who is this so called fan then?

[Hamburg Blade]

I presume they'd cancel his ST if he has one, refuse to sell tickets to him using his existing customer number and it would be flagged up in the system if he tried to set another one up.

The club will have a very hard time preventing him getting in if somebody else buys his tickets though. The police use high definition cameras to pick out people on football banning orders issued by the courts as they are committing a criminal offence but they won't be looking for people who the club have banned for stuff like this, bigger fish to fry etc.

I'd imagine if he kept getting spotted at the Lane the club might go down the legal route as officially he's probably trespassing or whatever.

I don't think they'd be too bothered. They are making a stance and protecting their brand image, but the effort involved in keeping people out is way too difficult. As you say, official ticket purchases and let the police deal with the real trouble makers. I also suspect that if he waited a couple of years and wrote a nice letter, they'd quietly recind it.

 

[TJB.]

I find it slightly disconcerting that some people seem unable to differentiate between what you may say in private, or even post on your own Facebook page for instance, compared to posting on someone else's platform.

If I put an offensive joke on my own FB status then it's unlikely anything will come of it. If I put it on my employer's FB page I'll likely be sacked. It really should be simply understood.

It's not fucking difficult, is it?

At its simplest level, all it really boils down to is 'Don't be a cunt'.

 

[TJB.]

Have you seen what the post was ? If United banned every fan who post a joke like that we’d have 15 k fans

That's not true though, is it?...

 

[Rusty view]

On this topic I've just been reprimanded by Facebook for advising my followers "make sure your property is secure. Our travelling community friends have arrived in s6"

Fucking snowflakes.

 

[super_pig]

On this topic I've just been reprimanded by Facebook for advising my followers "make sure your property is secure. Our travelling community friends have arrived in s6"

Fucking snowflakes.

incredible.. just walk away from facebook.. it is virtue signalling central..
me with a puppy.. me with an ethnic minority blah fucking blah ..
‘i’m nice .. honest.. please believe me i’m begging.. i need some attention.. i’ve got no friends apart from some saddoes from uni’
it's load of bollocks

 

[Rusty view]

incredible.. just walk away from facebook.. it is virtue signalling central..
me with a puppy.. me with an ethnic minority blah fucking blah ..
‘i’m nice .. honest.. please believe me i’m begging.. i need some attention.. i’ve got no friends apart from some saddoes from uni’
it's load of bollocks

"Best" one is when someone checks onto hospital without comment
"You ok hun"
"Dm me"

 

[WhiteHawk]

"Best" one is when someone checks onto hospital without comment
"You ok hun"
"Dm me"

Fucks me right off when I see people checking into a hospital. Why the fuck would you do that? If you're in hospital then surely you've got more important things to worry about than fucking Facebook?

 

[Sean Thornton]

"Best" one is when someone checks onto hospital without comment
"You ok hun"
"Dm me"

Woman I know pronounced herself "safe" after the Manchester terrorist attack. She isn't from Manchester, wasn't there on the night and was actually in London, where she lives.

 

[Rusty view]

Fucks me right off when I see people checking into a hospital. Why the fuck would you do that? If you're in hospital then surely you've got more important things to worry about than fucking Facebook?

Apparently not.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Woman I know pronounced herself "safe" after the Manchester terrorist attack. She isn't from Manchester, wasn't there on the night and was actually in London, where she lives.

That's hilarious. Did you pronounce yourself as "dangerous"?

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

That's not true though, is it?...

Yes I think it is , if every person wa banned for making and inappropriate joke or saying something offensive there would be nobody in the ground

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Yes I think it is , if every person wa banned for making and inappropriate joke or saying something offensive there would be nobody in the ground

So now you're the one saying what's offensive and what isn't. I thought that wasn't allowed.
(Yet another straw man )

 

[madeinsheffield]

During the dark days of robson managing us my mate spoke about running on the pitch to get banned, just so he didn't have to sit through any more shite football

 

[DifferentClass]

I support free speech and the right for private entities to punish it (within reason) and while I believe the club are in the right to ban the fan I think a lifetime ban is harsh compared to hooliganism and other issues in the modern game.

Again, I am NOT defending the fan's comments. I've yet to read them but would probably find them disgusting. I simply believe that a lifetime ban for something some berk said on Twitface is harsh. He wasn't inciting violence or hatred (unless the comments were racially charged- in which case I would support a lengthier ban). He was just being tasteless.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

OK So someone may NOT have been a fan in the 1970s or 80s however they could be now then??, since that same fan with the same activity whether its "scrapping" or abuse messages or whatever, could be done decades apart. Yet the fact is in the 70s and 80s there were many reasons why people did not go to football compared to these days . Not least economic factors like union strikes, financial hardhsip, 3 day week etc . Less media attention than there is now. Whereas now footy is a glory sport, funded heavily by Sky tv. completely 2 different eras and many many different factors behind it . Can't blame it all on lads who were hoolies.

That same fan might 30 years later still be , you use YOUR words " supporting the club's efforts to achieve success" and doing the same activities whatever they were/are.

as i say it doesn't make them LESS of a fan . In fact from my own experience and people i have known over the years often those sort of fans spend much more of their disposable income on SUFC than the so called "plastics". Thus considering that you could argue they are MORE of a fan as they are financially supporting the clubs efforts more than others....

Does this person whoever made these comments on the social media overnight night become a "non fan" ? Its the club/media who portray this "so called" image of who they perceive is not acceptable to THEM

Think we'll have to agree to disagree about this. Violence was a factor (not the only one) in the fall in numbers attending matches. Relatively few people took young children to matches because of the violence and poisonous atmosphere in the 70s and 80s (mine went to the Lane regularly, but I was very cautious about routes to the ground, etc.) I stopped going to away matches in the 70s, after dodging bricks and stones leaving the Mansfield ground; I have not got back into the habit of going to away matches since, though my son does. The violence cost clubs big money, not least in policing, and though others share responsibility, ultimately all the crap of fences, pens, segregation, etc., came about because of fans' behaviour. As did deaths at Heysel, Hillsborough, etc. Things have improved enormously, and crowds have increased (the 2 things are connected in my view), but every time things are thrown at players, fans go on the pitch, use pyros, get involved in physically attacking opposition fans, etc., there is considerable cost to the club, and money is spent which could have been spent on football rather than security. In my view that does not support/help the club.

 

[super_pig]

I support free speech and the right for private entities to punish it (within reason) and while I believe the club are in the right to ban the fan I think a lifetime ban is harsh compared to hooliganism and other issues in the modern game.

Again, I am NOT defending the fan's comments. I've yet to read them but would probably find them disgusting. I simply believe that a lifetime ban for something some berk said on Twitface is harsh. He wasn't inciting violence or hatred (unless the comments were racially charged- in which case I would support a lengthier ban). He was just being tasteless.

agree.. unfortunately in the current climate the club have to be 'seen' to do something or we'll get descended on by SJW's and NPC's just like we did with Ched

 

[Hamburg Blade]

I support free speech and the right for private entities to punish it (within reason) and while I believe the club are in the right to ban the fan I think a lifetime ban is harsh compared to hooliganism and other issues in the modern game.

Again, I am NOT defending the fan's comments. I've yet to read them but would probably find them disgusting. I simply believe that a lifetime ban for something some berk said on Twitface is harsh. He wasn't inciting violence or hatred (unless the comments were racially charged- in which case I would support a lengthier ban). He was just being tasteless.

Have the club said it is a lifetime ban?