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In the South we solve the problem by having Winter tyres on the Winter car and Summer tyres on the Summer car.

All this one car talk is so Northern and changing tyres such a chore darlings, it’s way more practical to simply have a separate car to keep the tyres on. I was discussing this issue only last week and my mate says he is going to invest in a third auto fitted with the new Autumn leaf tyres for when there is the risk of ‘leaf mould slip’ on his drive. Seems very wise.
 
In the South we solve the problem by having Winter tyres on the Winter car and Summer tyres on the Summer car.

All this one car talk is so Northern and changing tyres such a chore darlings, it’s way more practical to simply have a separate car to keep the tyres on. I was discussing this issue only last week and my mate says he is going to invest in a third auto fitted with the new Autumn leaf tyres for when there is the risk of ‘leaf mould slip’ on his drive. Seems very wise.
I'm surprised that you have different seasons in your southern bubble. :D
 
Going back to the original topic, has it ever been adequately explained why, when it's snowing, events at the Arena and City Hall can go ahead, people can wander around town shopping in the daytime and boozing on West St and Division St at night, but a football game can't go ahead?

Surely if the pavements are slippery and unsafe, that wouldn't just be in the S2 area, it would be everywhere. I'm sure the police would rather people stayed at home in snowy weather, but if the match is cancelled I imagine a lot of fans would go to the pub or go shopping instead. It seems semseless to me that football crowds are singled out.

Of course there's an increased chance of slipping when it's showy and icy. That's why people tend to wear hats, gloves and boots with a strong grip. We invested millions in a Desso pitch so we could play games in bad weather. Virtually the whole stadium is under cover. Why can't football fans be trusted to travel to the game without injuring themselves, when ordinary shoppers in town are permitted to wander about on icy pavements.

The logical conclusion would be to shut all shops and cancel all events in icy weather, but it seems that football games are the only events that are cancelled when it snows.
 
In the South we solve the problem by having Winter tyres on the Winter car and Summer tyres on the Summer car.

All this one car talk is so Northern and changing tyres such a chore darlings, it’s way more practical to simply have a separate car to keep the tyres on. I was discussing this issue only last week and my mate says he is going to invest in a third auto fitted with the new Autumn leaf tyres for when there is the risk of ‘leaf mould slip’ on his drive. Seems very wise.

Those with real money bypass it all together and go away with the mistress from September to March.
 
Going back to the original topic, has it ever been adequately explained why, when it's snowing, events at the Arena and City Hall can go ahead, people can wander around town shopping in the daytime and boozing on West St and Division St at night, but a football game can't go ahead?

Surely if the pavements are slippery and unsafe, that wouldn't just be in the S2 area, it would be everywhere. I'm sure the police would rather people stayed at home in snowy weather, but if the match is cancelled I imagine a lot of fans would go to the pub or go shopping instead. It seems semseless to me that football crowds are singled out.

Of course there's an increased chance of slipping when it's showy and icy. That's why people tend to wear hats, gloves and boots with a strong grip. We invested millions in a Desso pitch so we could play games in bad weather. Virtually the whole stadium is under cover. Why can't football fans be trusted to travel to the game without injuring themselves, when ordinary shoppers in town are permitted to wander about on icy pavements.

The logical conclusion would be to shut all shops and cancel all events in icy weather, but it seems that football games are the only events that are cancelled when it snows.
No idea but the City Hall holds a couple of thousand and doesn’t have rival supporters. I think it’s hard to make comparisons between football and any other social/recreational activity. 25,000 people (and dogs) , half of whom are pissed up and with a small proportion who want to fight each other.
 
Going back to the original topic, has it ever been adequately explained why, when it's snowing, events at the Arena and City Hall can go ahead, people can wander around town shopping in the daytime and boozing on West St and Division St at night, but a football game can't go ahead?

Surely if the pavements are slippery and unsafe, that wouldn't just be in the S2 area, it would be everywhere. I'm sure the police would rather people stayed at home in snowy weather, but if the match is cancelled I imagine a lot of fans would go to the pub or go shopping instead. It seems semseless to me that football crowds are singled out.

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Yes I can answer that one,

South Yorkshire Police hate football and wish it would just go away. Any excuse they and their mates at The SAG can come up with to cancel a game, especially on a Saturday, is grabbed and used with great relief and delight.
 
No idea but the City Hall holds a couple of thousand and doesn’t have rival supporters. I think it’s hard to make comparisons between football and any other social/recreational activity. 25,000 people (and dogs) , half of whom are pissed up and with a small proportion who want to fight each other.

Arena holds 20k-ish. Seem to remember last winter they let a boxing match go ahead out there after our game was cancelled, and boxing fans are less well behaved than football fans in my experience. Dunno how many people visit town to go shopping on an average Saturday afternoon, but that must be quite a few thousand. Thousands more go out and get pissed in town on a Saturday night I imagine.
 
Arena holds 20k-ish. Seem to remember last winter they let a boxing match go ahead out there after our game was cancelled, and boxing fans are less well behaved than football fans in my experience. Dunno how many people visit town to go shopping on an average Saturday afternoon, but that must be quite a few thousand. Thousands more go out and get pissed in town on a Saturday night I imagine.
I don’t know the Arena as it was built after I left but wiki says it’s 13,500. Agree about boxing fans, I’m surprised SYPD don’t have an issue with them too.

Loads of people go to town to shop and get pissed but they don’t all head in the same direction at the same time. I guess the ‘issue’ is arriving and leaving the game.

They do seem to overreact though. Who are SAG accountable to?
 
I don’t know the Arena as it was built after I left but wiki says it’s 13,500. Agree about boxing fans, I’m surprised SYPD don’t have an issue with them too.

It probably varies depending on the event. For concerts they don't use the seats at the stage end but have the floor area, ice hockey will get all the seats but obviously not the floor, boxing could have all the seats and most of the floor as well.
 
SYP will be foaming at the mouth at the prospect of a postponement.
The money issue is a one off. Admittedly they’re slightly more expensive and you need somewhere to store them. However, as an example I used to do 12000 miles a year, which was roughly one set of tyres, the missus was similar. When I got winter tyres, they lasted her three winters and me two winters and both cars summer tyres lasted for two summers.

You say that you’re fine if you drive sensibly in the snow but as I said they perform so much better in ice, rain and snow, so they’re a real winter game changer in my opinion.

If you can improve your stopping distance in winter on a motorway, I’d take that option everytime
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I just wish that the police and insurance companies pushed for them in the UK like they do in Switzerland (outside of the mountains, where you need to carry snow chains). The weather in central and northern Switzerland isn’t much different to the uk in winter, however if you have an accident and you don’t have winter tyres, the blame is more likely to fall on you... so everyone puts winter tyres on

It’s certainly a cultural thing.
It's to be hoped you don't have me behind you with your super stopping tyres. You don't want this old man to ram you up the Jacksy;).
 
If you can improve your stopping distance in winter on a motorway, I’d take that option everytime.

however if you have an accident and you don’t have winter tyres, the blame is more likely to fall on you... so everyone puts winter tyres on

Sounds like it's always the fault of people with winter tyres to me, as they stop sooner than everyone else, causing a pile up :D
 

It probably varies depending on the event. For concerts they don't use the seats at the stage end but have the floor area, ice hockey will get all the seats but obviously not the floor, boxing could have all the seats and most of the floor as well.

Ice Hockey doesn't get the stage end either, rarely gets full unless it's the Nottingham Boxing Day Game. Back in the day they were known to put temporary seats there if there was demand.
 
Going back to the original topic, has it ever been adequately explained why, when it's snowing, events at the Arena and City Hall can go ahead, people can wander around town shopping in the daytime and boozing on West St and Division St at night, but a football game can't go ahead?

Surely if the pavements are slippery and unsafe, that wouldn't just be in the S2 area, it would be everywhere. I'm sure the police would rather people stayed at home in snowy weather, but if the match is cancelled I imagine a lot of fans would go to the pub or go shopping instead. It seems semseless to me that football crowds are singled out.

Of course there's an increased chance of slipping when it's showy and icy. That's why people tend to wear hats, gloves and boots with a strong grip. We invested millions in a Desso pitch so we could play games in bad weather. Virtually the whole stadium is under cover. Why can't football fans be trusted to travel to the game without injuring themselves, when ordinary shoppers in town are permitted to wander about on icy pavements.

The logical conclusion would be to shut all shops and cancel all events in icy weather, but it seems that football games are the only events that are cancelled when it snows.

It annoys me to high heaven. A game was cancelled a couple winters back because of bad snow. As it happened I went to town anyway for a slurp, town was snow-free. They say it’s for safety reasons, but as you say, people are still out and about shopping or whatever else. If I want to risk injury then that’s my prerogative. Jumped up elf n safety man telling me the roads aren’t safe...
 
Sounds like it's always the fault of people with winter tyres to me, as they stop sooner than everyone else, causing a pile up :D

The conditions are to blame. Especially the smug.......
 
Ice Hockey doesn't get the stage end either, rarely gets full unless it's the Nottingham Boxing Day Game. Back in the day they were known to put temporary seats there if there was demand.

I wouldn't know, I don't attend UK ice hockey games as I'm not a child, middle aged woman or geek.
 
I was merely making the point that the seats weren't there so wind your fucking neck in.

I was merely assuming that all seats would be used, and every ice hockey fan on my Facebook feed posts photos that makes them all look like sad mentalists, so calm down and wind your fucking pincers in.
 
I was merely assuming that all seats would be used, and every ice hockey fan on my Facebook feed posts photos that makes them all look like sad mentalists, so calm down and wind your fucking pincers in.

Point taken. But those of us who don't feel the need to put shite on Facebook might just be there to enjoy the game.

Anyway, Pincers wound in.
 
I was merely assuming that all seats would be used, and every ice hockey fan on my Facebook feed posts photos that makes them all look like sad mentalists, so calm down and wind your fucking pincers in.

Children, middle aged women and geeks on your FB page and you mock others? Wow.

:)
 
Children, middle aged women and geeks on your FB page and you mock others? Wow.

:)

Just hit a nerve thats all. Something we used to enjoy doing but I've not got the heart to go back.

Twattish post, twattish response. Far as I'm concerned we're square with the house.
 
We really need this game to go ahead, a win and we're back in the autos with Leeds V Norwich late Saturday kick off
 
It annoys me to high heaven. A game was cancelled a couple winters back because of bad snow. As it happened I went to town anyway for a slurp, town was snow-free. They say it’s for safety reasons, but as you say, people are still out and about shopping or whatever else. If I want to risk injury then that’s my prerogative. Jumped up elf n safety man telling me the roads aren’t safe...

Scunthorpe at home I think that was. Pitch fine, ground fine but it was cancelled due to a bit of ice outside the ground. By the time kick off came around it had all melted anyway.
 
Yes I can answer that one,

South Yorkshire Police hate football and wish it would just go away. Any excuse they and their mates at The SAG can come up with to cancel a game, especially on a Saturday, is grabbed and used with great relief and delight.

I wonder what they will do if we get to the Premiership.
Premiership games very rarely get called off.
 
Can anyone explain why the summary forecast for Sheffield tonight on the BBC says “Heavy snow showers” (top left in graphic, below), but the detailed hour by hour forecast from 1800 to 0500 suggests not a single flake will fall?

Forecast? My arse.

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