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Just been on Met Office and no sign of it. Bit of sleet Friday. There may be some light accumulations on higher ground admittedly.

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The 'forecast' last Friday and Saturday, tomorrow was going to be storms, tempest, plague of frogs etc. Now it's almost Tuesday, they've pushed it back to Thursday.

Let's face it, apart from providing work for a few vacuous birds, the 'weather forecast' is useless. They may as well look out the window. About as accurate as Horoscopes.

The weather forecast on BBC Breakfast - one of the most stuck up features on the Breakfast programme.

'And now it's over to Carol at the Henley Regatta'

.........Carol at the Chelsea Flower Show'

........Carol at Wimbledon'

If the BBC is supposed to reflect our country then this certainly doesn't.

I want to see and hear

'And now it's over to Carol outside the Bankers Draft'.

You do realise that Kirkwood is on for just one reason? EDIT: Make that two.
 
I put winter tyres on my 4x4 last year and am still running on them. You won't need to change yours I wouldn't think as I remember you've got a new car, but when you do come to change them it's worth considering. They've worn just as well as the normal summer tyres but you've got even more grip in snow and ice. I put Continental Winter Contact on mine.
The problem I was told by friends in Italy who live on the coast and also the mountains is that the compound is different. So the hot weather running speed of a winter tyre can alter the effectiveness of the tyre, better to have two sets if possible.
 
Snake Pass will almost certainly be closed by Saturday. That should deter a few Bolton fans, that and the thought of the drubbing they'll get on the pitch.
 
The problem I was told by friends in Italy who live on the coast and also the mountains is that the compound is different. So the hot weather running speed of a winter tyre can alter the effectiveness of the tyre, better to have two sets if possible.
Yes that's true. The winter tyres are a softer rubber and grip better on ice and snow, however, they are not as hard-wearing as standard tyres and the braking distances may not be so good, the fuel consumption may suffer, and also they can be more noisy.

The tyre reviews give a rating for things like noise, fuel economy and braking in the wet. These Continental tyres (Winter Contact TS850) come out good in all aspects, even though they are winter tyres.

When I fitted them on last year I kept my other tyres with a view to putting them back on again in summer. However, I never got around to it and I've found they've worn really well - just as good as the standard Pirelli's that I had on. So I just left them on all year.

I think if I was in a hotter country though I'd definitely put the summer tyres back on.
 

Outside the BankersDraft. :)

Somebody telling her to get her tits out, two drunks fighting, Star reporter interviewing Japanese tourist about 9000 Wendy fans at Chelsea, tramp sat on floor masturbating surrounded by pigeons, Greggs queue stretching around the corner, Tango and PG Metcalf frightening children.

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Ha ha i still can't believe that the UK hasn't caught on to Winter tyres. Its not just about driving in the snow, but colder and wetter conditions.

But you carry on in your little bubble :D
I think that its probably more likely that people see it like boo radley 'tyre snobbery'

Even the smallest amount of research online will pull up a tonne of evidence in favour of winter tyres, i think
I think its more like folk do not have the money to invest in such tyres to have them sat in the garage then changed every year.
As you know, I travel tens of thousands of miles a year and do not see the need if you drive sensibly enough. The tyres I have are absolutely fine and will get me home in most wintry conditions, even in my little bubble.
 
I think its more like folk do not have the money to invest in such tyres to have them sat in the garage then changed every year.
As you know, I travel tens of thousands of miles a year and do not see the need if you drive sensibly enough. The tyres I have are absolutely fine and will get me home in most wintry conditions, even in my little bubble.

The money issue is a one off. Admittedly they’re slightly more expensive and you need somewhere to store them. However, as an example I used to do 12000 miles a year, which was roughly one set of tyres, the missus was similar. When I got winter tyres, they lasted her three winters and me two winters and both cars summer tyres lasted for two summers.

You say that you’re fine if you drive sensibly in the snow but as I said they perform so much better in ice, rain and snow, so they’re a real winter game changer in my opinion.

If you can improve your stopping distance in winter on a motorway, I’d take that option everytime.

I just wish that the police and insurance companies pushed for them in the UK like they do in Switzerland (outside of the mountains, where you need to carry snow chains). The weather in central and northern Switzerland isn’t much different to the uk in winter, however if you have an accident and you don’t have winter tyres, the blame is more likely to fall on you... so everyone puts winter tyres on

It’s certainly a cultural thing.
 
Well my tyres work in all weather no probs.....
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Yes that's true. The winter tyres are a softer rubber and grip better on ice and snow, however, they are not as hard-wearing as standard tyres and the braking distances may not be so good, the fuel consumption may suffer, and also they can be more noisy.

The tyre reviews give a rating for things like noise, fuel economy and braking in the wet. These Continental tyres (Winter Contact TS850) come out good in all aspects, even though they are winter tyres.

When I fitted them on last year I kept my other tyres with a view to putting them back on again in summer. However, I never got around to it and I've found they've worn really well - just as good as the standard Pirelli's that I had on. So I just left them on all year.

I think if I was in a hotter country though I'd definitely put the summer tyres back on.
The compound may indeed differ, however I saw something last week about the sipes or siping on winter tyres. Basically they put more slits (sipes) into winter tyres compared to summer tyres which allows for better grip in wet or wintery conditions.

I read that they generally they have 3-4 times the siping than summer tyres helping displace more water and grip better
 
The compound may indeed differ, however I saw something last week about the sipes or siping on winter tyres. Basically they put more slits (sipes) into winter tyres compared to summer tyres which allows for better grip in wet or wintery conditions.

I read that they generally they have 3-4 times the siping than summer tyres helping displace more water and grip better

Love em. Fortunate enough to have a wife who gets a car maintenance allowance so had Vredestein Wintrac a few years back and last two years Continental Wintercontact. Excellent on an Audi 4x4. Gets everywhere in ice and snow. Absolutely pointless on anything low slung and not 4x4 in my honest opinion except that they do react better in winter conditions to normal tyres.
 
Winter tyres are old hat now. All-season tyres are the future.
They aren’t up to much unless they are true “4 season” tyres (have the snowflake symbol on them). Cars come as standard with all seasons here and they are little better than summer tyres in the snow.
 
The compound may indeed differ, however I saw something last week about the sipes or siping on winter tyres. Basically they put more slits (sipes) into winter tyres compared to summer tyres which allows for better grip in wet or wintery conditions.

I read that they generally they have 3-4 times the siping than summer tyres helping displace more water and grip better
It’s the siping that gives them the grip. However some winter tyres don’t have full depth sipes, so they wear through after a couple of mm of rubber is worn off. In addition some winters have a different, softer rubber compound on the outside. Once that’s worn through they’re toast.
 

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