Slept on it, still livid, what do we do now

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Fulwood Blade said:
I don't support a shit football club.

They might be "playing" shit now and have for a while, but the CLUB is not shit.

You probably did the post in haste - do you want to reconsider?

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No, They play shit, they are run in a shit manner. The only thing that isn't shit is the support. Apart from that we are currently shit. There was a time when we weren't and there will be a time once more that we won't be but we are what we are.
 
The OP asked "What do we do now ?" The mature answer is we can't oust the owners or change their minds.

However much I want to be in that car-park after the match on Saturday (based on my emotional need to demonstrate how much the Club mean to me) , I know that it won't help.
It might have shifted McCabe's disaster drunkard manager , but it won't shift McCabe or indeed alter the owners joint approach.
They know they are a PR car-crash , which is why they had JimBob write that drivel in advance.

In fact , going into the car-park with my shoes in hand could work against me.
Because the arrogant, opportunistic owners could choose to make Adkins the scapegoat , just as they have chosen other scapegoats in the past.
And that's not what I want. For all I can criticize aspects of his recruitment and tactics , the last thing the patient needs (lying there with his guts all over the operating table) is another change of surgeon.

So win or draw against Wigan, (for my own sanity), my thoughts have to stay on the team and not the owners.

Lose badly against a promotion rival who has strengthened, I can't ignore how the owners have let me down - I'll join in with a few cathartic (but admittedly ineffective) chants of "Sack the Board" , but be careful not to provide them with a scapegoat.

So to try and drag myself out of my present pit of despair , allI can do is think about the football team side of things and ignore the Club/owners.

Theodore Roosevelt said "Do what you can, where you are, with what you have".
A modern version goes along the lines of worrying only about what can be changed.

So here's my positive thoughts on what I'd do in Nigel's shoes :

Every player out of contract in the summer EXCEPT Adams, Harris, K.Wallace, Edgar & Long , should go.

ie: Hammond, Sammon, Flynn, JCR, Baxter, Cuvelier, Collins, Kennedy, McGahey, McEveley & Howard.

But Hammond will stay (you know it).

Of those who are still in contract, these should be sold/paid-off: Scougall, Woolford, McFadzean & DGRO.

But Woolford will stay (you know it).

That leaves us with a realistic prospect of the following squad:

New first-choice goalie, Long as cover ( or Long plus Willis as cover - I don't know Willis);

Brayford, new RB cover, new CB x2, Edgar as cover, Harris, K.Wallace;

Coutts, Basham, Hammond (Capt. while NA is here), Reed, new & pacy CMF x2, new RW, new LW (new ones have to be goalscorers);

Sharp, Done, Adams, DCL, new C/F x 2.

That's a principle squad of 23.

9 new recruits who are A) Youthful & B) Have Some Pace & C) Have Some Quality & D) Have Some Potential To Develop ...........think Brian Deane.

Like in 1988, we aren't rich enough to buy the finished article - so we have to Scout Well and find players who are going to take themselves (and us) upwards.

No one who knows my usual postings could call me a clapper , but where there's life , there's hope.
 
Keen Blade said:
The OP asked "What do we do now ?" The mature answer is we can't oust the owners or change their minds.

However much I want to be in that car-park after the match on Saturday (based on my emotional need to demonstrate how much the Club mean to me) , I know that it won't help.
It might have shifted McCabe's disaster drunkard manager , but it won't shift McCabe or indeed alter the owners joint approach.
They know they are a PR car-crash , which is why they had JimBob write that drivel in advance.

In fact , going into the car-park with my shoes in hand could work against me.
Because the arrogant, opportunistic owners could choose to make Adkins the scapegoat , just as they have chosen other scapegoats in the past.
And that's not what I want. For all I can criticize aspects of his recruitment and tactics , the last thing the patient needs (lying there with his guts all over the operating table) is another change of surgeon.

So win or draw against Wigan, (for my own sanity), my thoughts have to stay on the team and not the owners.

Lose badly against a promotion rival who has strengthened, I can't ignore how the owners have let me down - I'll join in with a few cathartic (but admittedly ineffective) chants of "Sack the Board" , but be careful not to provide them with a scapegoat.

So to try and drag myself out of my present pit of despair , allI can do is think about the football team side of things and ignore the Club/owners.

Theodore Roosevelt said "Do what you can, where you are, with what you have".
A modern version goes along the lines of worrying only about what can be changed.

So here's my positive thoughts on what I'd do in Nigel's shoes :

Every player out of contract in the summer EXCEPT Adams, Harris, K.Wallace, Edgar & Long , should go.

ie: Hammond, Sammon, Flynn, JCR, Baxter, Cuvelier, Collins, Kennedy, McGahey, McEveley & Howard.

But Hammond will stay (you know it).

Of those who are still in contract, these should be sold/paid-off: Scougall, Woolford, McFadzean & DGRO.

But Woolford will stay (you know it).

That leaves us with a realistic prospect of the following squad:

New first-choice goalie, Long as cover ( or Long plus Willis as cover - I don't know Willis);

Brayford, new RB cover, new CB x2, Edgar as cover, Harris, K.Wallace;

Coutts, Basham, Hammond (Capt. while NA is here), Reed, new & pacy CMF x2, new RW, new LW (new ones have to be goalscorers);

Sharp, Done, Adams, DCL, new C/F x 2.

That's a principle squad of 23.

9 new recruits who are A) Youthful & B) Have Some Pace & C) Have Some Quality & D) Have Some Potential To Develop ...........think Brian Deane.

Like in 1988, we aren't rich enough to buy the finished article - so we have to Scout Well and find players who are going to take themselves (and us) upwards.

No one who knows my usual postings could call me a clapper , but where there's life , there's hope.
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Good post, my view is similar with what we are presented with at the moment.

We need to win the equivalent of 11 games out of 18 to get 75 points to get a play off place

We may well lose on Saturday and we could well miss the playoffs but I think the side will give it a go.

Fallback is it's only 3 months before we get rid of many and rebuild properly (I know they get paid until June but they'll be told immediately after the season ends).
 
Keen Blade said:
The OP asked "What do we do now ?" The mature answer is we can't oust the owners or change their minds.

However much I want to be in that car-park after the match on Saturday (based on my emotional need to demonstrate how much the Club mean to me) , I know that it won't help.
It might have shifted McCabe's disaster drunkard manager , but it won't shift McCabe or indeed alter the owners joint approach.
They know they are a PR car-crash , which is why they had JimBob write that drivel in advance.

In fact , going into the car-park with my shoes in hand could work against me.
Because the arrogant, opportunistic owners could choose to make Adkins the scapegoat , just as they have chosen other scapegoats in the past.
And that's not what I want. For all I can criticize aspects of his recruitment and tactics , the last thing the patient needs (lying there with his guts all over the operating table) is another change of surgeon.

So win or draw against Wigan, (for my own sanity), my thoughts have to stay on the team and not the owners.

Lose badly against a promotion rival who has strengthened, I can't ignore how the owners have let me down - I'll join in with a few cathartic (but admittedly ineffective) chants of "Sack the Board" , but be careful not to provide them with a scapegoat.

So to try and drag myself out of my present pit of despair , allI can do is think about the football team side of things and ignore the Club/owners.

Theodore Roosevelt said "Do what you can, where you are, with what you have".
A modern version goes along the lines of worrying only about what can be changed.

So here's my positive thoughts on what I'd do in Nigel's shoes :

Every player out of contract in the summer EXCEPT Adams, Harris, K.Wallace, Edgar & Long , should go.

ie: Hammond, Sammon, Flynn, JCR, Baxter, Cuvelier, Collins, Kennedy, McGahey, McEveley & Howard.

But Hammond will stay (you know it).

Of those who are still in contract, these should be sold/paid-off: Scougall, Woolford, McFadzean & DGRO.

But Woolford will stay (you know it).

That leaves us with a realistic prospect of the following squad:

New first-choice goalie, Long as cover ( or Long plus Willis as cover - I don't know Willis);

Brayford, new RB cover, new CB x2, Edgar as cover, Harris, K.Wallace;

Coutts, Basham, Hammond (Capt. while NA is here), Reed, new & pacy CMF x2, new RW, new LW (new ones have to be goalscorers);

Sharp, Done, Adams, DCL, new C/F x 2.

That's a principle squad of 23.

9 new recruits who are A) Youthful & B) Have Some Pace & C) Have Some Quality & D) Have Some Potential To Develop ...........think Brian Deane.

Like in 1988, we aren't rich enough to buy the finished article - so we have to Scout Well and find players who are going to take themselves (and us) upwards.

No one who knows my usual postings could call me a clapper , but where there's life , there's hope.
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That is an excellent post, both in terms of ideas and execution, but the one huge worry is that do we have the personnel at Bramall Lane to execute a plan like that, make the money available, and find the right sort of players.

Unfortunately i have my doubts.
 
Keen Blade said:
The OP asked "What do we do now ?" The mature answer is we can't oust the owners or change their minds.

However much I want to be in that car-park after the match on Saturday (based on my emotional need to demonstrate how much the Club mean to me) , I know that it won't help.
It might have shifted McCabe's disaster drunkard manager , but it won't shift McCabe or indeed alter the owners joint approach.
They know they are a PR car-crash , which is why they had JimBob write that drivel in advance.

In fact , going into the car-park with my shoes in hand could work against me.
Because the arrogant, opportunistic owners could choose to make Adkins the scapegoat , just as they have chosen other scapegoats in the past.
And that's not what I want. For all I can criticize aspects of his recruitment and tactics , the last thing the patient needs (lying there with his guts all over the operating table) is another change of surgeon.

So win or draw against Wigan, (for my own sanity), my thoughts have to stay on the team and not the owners.

Lose badly against a promotion rival who has strengthened, I can't ignore how the owners have let me down - I'll join in with a few cathartic (but admittedly ineffective) chants of "Sack the Board" , but be careful not to provide them with a scapegoat.

So to try and drag myself out of my present pit of despair , allI can do is think about the football team side of things and ignore the Club/owners.

Theodore Roosevelt said "Do what you can, where you are, with what you have".
A modern version goes along the lines of worrying only about what can be changed.

So here's my positive thoughts on what I'd do in Nigel's shoes :

Every player out of contract in the summer EXCEPT Adams, Harris, K.Wallace, Edgar & Long , should go.

ie: Hammond, Sammon, Flynn, JCR, Baxter, Cuvelier, Collins, Kennedy, McGahey, McEveley & Howard.

But Hammond will stay (you know it).

Of those who are still in contract, these should be sold/paid-off: Scougall, Woolford, McFadzean & DGRO.

But Woolford will stay (you know it).

That leaves us with a realistic prospect of the following squad:

New first-choice goalie, Long as cover ( or Long plus Willis as cover - I don't know Willis);

Brayford, new RB cover, new CB x2, Edgar as cover, Harris, K.Wallace;

Coutts, Basham, Hammond (Capt. while NA is here), Reed, new & pacy CMF x2, new RW, new LW (new ones have to be goalscorers);

Sharp, Done, Adams, DCL, new C/F x 2.

That's a principle squad of 23.

9 new recruits who are A) Youthful & B) Have Some Pace & C) Have Some Quality & D) Have Some Potential To Develop ...........think Brian Deane.

Like in 1988, we aren't rich enough to buy the finished article - so we have to Scout Well and find players who are going to take themselves (and us) upwards.

No one who knows my usual postings could call me a clapper , but where there's life , there's hope.
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Excellent stuff and proof that a fans group could add something to the management of the club.
 
I can't believe that otherwise-sensible football fans can fall for the hype and bullshit that surrounds transfer windows. It's called 'increasing the excitement'. Just as the Lottery manufactures 'rollovers', just as Cameron thinks anybody is thick enough to believe his 'Neville Chamberlain impersonation' with the EU, these utterly bogus windows serve no purpose except to whip up interest, speculation, hype etc. I bet clubs hate them - they can be forced to swap their best players for inferior ones just so they can look as if they're 'doing something'.

If United had come out with 'we're buying nobody because we can't afford to/nobody wants to drop down to Division 3', there would have been meltdown with the fans. Therefore Adkins has to make vague insinuations to the likes of Dan Burn (who he?) and...there is meltdown because we haven't signed him.

Is our team good enough? Hell, no! But be grateful we haven't lost our best players like Blackburn, Peterborough etc.
 
Bladesway said:
Because every day I get out of bed I can change my life. By moaning about the government and just about everything else I drown in a pit of self pity but can blame everyone else for my failings.

I support a shit football club that is badly run. Oh dear, here ends my life. You would think judging by the reactions of some on here that it was a shock we hadn't bought anyone. Were you surprised Judge? I wasn't.
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No i wasnt but what youre suggesting badically is that we shouldnt care and if we didnt then this forum wouldnt exist and neither would the club

You can change your relationship with sufc by ending it
By being apathetic you are actually adding to the problem
 
judge said:
In other words
Why give a fuck ?
Why invest money and emotion ?
Why support a team ?
Why not fuck off to meadowhall ?
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Good idea. I read Meadowhall is having a 60 million quid game changing investment.
 
Keen Blade said:
9 new recruits who are A) Youthful & B) Have Some Pace & C) Have Some Quality & D) Have Some Potential To Develop.
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We were unable/unwilling to recruit anyone of the sort last month and the summer will be no different. We are now an unfashionable, established League One club with skint owners. I see another 'clean slate' coming on in five months time.
 



Bladesway said:
If you are genuinely a man in his mid 40's what are you doing? Stopping up late expecting something to happen? Why? It is rare than anything happens of note within a transfer window at BDTBL. If you were in your early 20's or some wet behind the ear teenager then perhaps but assuming you have supported to club since being young then this should be the expectation.

I'd also wonder why you are livid? If this was unexpected news, a bolt from the blue I'd see some reason but this has been coming. Chucking people out and a few platitudes from Adkins about players possible coming in. Then nothing happens. This is the way.

There is (as expected) a lot of mock indignation on here. I'm sorry people need to grow up. This isn't new this is the way. It isn't going to change. If you cannot get used to it then I suggest you either send yourself off for anger management classes or get some medication.

If anyone needs to compare and contrast where we really are then look across at S6. Good players coming in and money genuinely going into the first team. We are not loaded and do not have a rich benefactor. Hence we use terms like "Right Sizing" and other such terminology.

Fact is, we are stuck with this. We have a good manager, hopefully he will deliver us a better team in the coming 12 months or so. That appears to be the plan. At least now it looks like there is one.
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Good post mate are you expecting Brayford and Adams to be sold in the summer to make up for the deficit because i am ..Then we will slash the wage bill but this is the reality of being a well established 3rd division team .
 
marsh blade said:
Good post mate are you expecting Brayford and Adams to be sold in the summer to make up for the deficit because i am ..Then we will slash the wage bill but this is the reality of being a well established 3rd division team .
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I have lived through players being sold all my life as a Blade, why would it change now?
 
judge said:
No i wasnt but what youre suggesting badically is that we shouldnt care and if we didnt then this forum wouldnt exist and neither would the club

You can change your relationship with sufc by ending it
By being apathetic you are actually adding to the problem
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I choose not to end my relationship with SUFC but I choose to invest less time and money in it these days. I care less in some ways but that is my realisation that nothing changes when you are angry.
 
Maybe the best way to support the Blades is to stop giving a fuck. If you care, you'll just spend the majority of your life being disappointed. Stop thinking of them as a club and start thinking of them just as a business, another branch of the entertainment industry. And to realise that it's not just a straight choice between the Lane and Meadowhell.
 
dannysufc_ said:
The club is rotten but not shit. We as fans deserve so much better.
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I do not agree the club is rotten.

I also do not agree with your personal vendetta (and others) against the McCabe family.

The blame culture world we now live means SOMEONE has to be to blame - you have your opinion as do others, and as usual with something like this NO ONE puts forward an alternative. McCabe could have easily thrown in the towel ages ago - he is better than that.

McCabe may very well be a devil in disguise to some, he might also be "better then the devil you don't know"

As a football club we have never recovered from how the FA & FL & PL dealt with us over the West Ham debacle.

I can accept that we may be better without McCabe, but that is uncharted territory.

We will get out of this mess and for all the moaning that goes on - even on this site - it still might be this season - it is far from over. I watched (with gladness) the pigs suffer from 1997 all the way up to 2013 - similar circumstances and it will be the same with us in that we WILL be back. False dawns have been and gone and it is fair to say the Prince might be another false dawn in the end (re: Randy Lerner at Villa comes to mind).

As fans we have to just hang in there - difficult as it has been and even more difficult as we spend a 5th year in this shit division.

It might, just might, not be a 6th.

UTB
 
Bladesway said:
If you are genuinely a man in his mid 40's what are you doing? Stopping up late expecting something to happen? Why? It is rare than anything happens of note within a transfer window at BDTBL. If you were in your early 20's or some wet behind the ear teenager then perhaps but assuming you have supported to club since being young then this should be the expectation.

I'd also wonder why you are livid? If this was unexpected news, a bolt from the blue I'd see some reason but this has been coming. Chucking people out and a few platitudes from Adkins about players possible coming in. Then nothing happens. This is the way.

There is (as expected) a lot of mock indignation on here. I'm sorry people need to grow up. This isn't new this is the way. It isn't going to change. If you cannot get used to it then I suggest you either send yourself off for anger management classes or get some medication.

If anyone needs to compare and contrast where we really are then look across at S6. Good players coming in and money genuinely going into the first team. We are not loaded and do not have a rich benefactor. Hence we use terms like "Right Sizing" and other such terminology.

Fact is, we are stuck with this. We have a good manager, hopefully he will deliver us a better team in the coming 12 months or so. That appears to be the plan. At least now it looks like there is one.
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thanks for pointing this out. btw .. this new way isn't going to go down well and you may get your way and the moaners may leave. in droves.
 
So long as us fans keep going in numbers (i include myself in that), the board will continue to think they can carry on regardless. I never saw this window as some kind of salvation - its been obvious for a while it was going to be all about cost cutting - but that doesnt make the response from Jim and his poll, he lack of investment or the year after year league one status OK, as its not.
 
just to add. i knew we wouldn't buy anyone. i've been here too long. i am interested though in why our club seems to be such a shambles.. it is a dereliction of duty that any team with genuine promotion hopes that has needed a centre back for two years hasn't done anything about it.
 
I perversely enjoy going to Bramall Lane. In the years I've been going I have seen some absolute rubbish. I've seen managers come and go, directors come and go and stands pulled down and rebuilt. I've seen match winners and lots of rubbish.....but I'll keep on going. It's a habit I'm finding hard to break.:rolleyes:
 
super_pig said:
thanks for pointing this out. btw .. this new way isn't going to go down well and you may get your way and the moaners may leave. in droves.
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Yes that's what I want. Not promotion or success.
 
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