Sky tv again..

[SwissBlade]

I like the 3pm blackout, I just can’t see how much longer it will be able to hold out however..

I think one of the biggest things stopping the likes of Sky getting more subscribers.

People don’t have full access to football in the uk because of it and people overseas have full access. I don’t think it impacts attendances like perhaps in the 90’s

The other issue is that the wisdom of breaking up the monopoly of one big provider in the uk having all premier league football. Designed to protect the consumer.

But it would cost hundreds per month for a consumer to have sky, TNT, Amazon prime and any others to watch all games broadcast. It would certainly be cheaper if there were just one provider

 

[Selly]

The other issue is that the wisdom of breaking up the monopoly of one big provider in the uk having all premier league football. Designed to protect the consumer.

But it would cost hundreds per month for a consumer to have sky, TNT, Amazon prime and any others to watch all games broadcast. It would certainly be cheaper if there were just one provider

This - the issue here is that the regulators saw the "product" as PL football - which effectively means that Palace v Bournemouth has the same value as Liverpool v Arsenal.

Now to Palace and Bournemouth fans it probably does. But if all you can afford is BT Sport, and Liverpool vs Arsenal is on Sky then it isn`t.

The "product" is being able to watch all the games you want to.

Unfortunately the cat is now out of the bag - the PL probably thought having a single provider brought the most value - but in fact they get more by increasing overall competition for each package. They won`t ever (unless forced) go back to having a single provider.

And they certainly won`t do what would actually be beneficial to the consumer and allow any broadcaster to transmit every game for a flat fee and have competition for subscriptions on that basis.

 

[SwissBlade]

This - the issue here is that the regulators saw the "product" as PL football - which effectively means that Palace v Bournemouth has the same value as Liverpool v Arsenal.

Now to Palace and Bournemouth fans it probably does. But if all you can afford is BT Sport, and Liverpool vs Arsenal is on Sky then it isn`t.

The "product" is being able to watch all the games you want to.

Unfortunately the cat is now out of the bag - the PL probably thought having a single provider brought the most value - but in fact they get more by increasing overall competition for each package. They won`t ever (unless forced) go back to having a single provider.

And they certainly won`t do what would actually be beneficial to the consumer and allow any broadcaster to transmit every game for a flat fee and have competition for subscriptions on that basis.

I think, and it was a long while ago, but wasn’t it the government or the monopoly and mergers commission which forced the tv deal into packages

 

[Gordon Freeman]

They got too greedy with their paying customers and pushed them into being not-paying customers.

It's like streaming piracy. If you make it easier to subscribe to a service and the cost/benefit relationship works out, you're more likely to subscribe to the legal service. Netflix, for instance. It was reasonably cheap, the platform was good and people subscribed. It had a huge market share.

As soon as you start increasing the costs, or enshittifying it in some other way (ads), you push people back towards being bothered to pirate. Instead of being happy with what profits you are getting from an individual customer, you start getting none.

They also seem determined to turn their customer base into bankrupt gambling addicts. As far as business plans go, it’s a bold one.

 

[Selly]

I think, and it was a long while ago, but wasn’t it the government or the monopoly and mergers commission which forced the tv deal into packages

It was a regulator of some sort - whether that was the M&M or the EU.

Yet again, the consumer gets screwed by the very people who are supposed to be protecting them - of course some might say that's the system working exactly as it is intended.

 

[sheff_blade90]

i was working it out & looking at fixture lists & comparing ourselves to ipswich. excluding the final day

• 8 of ipswich final 14 home games have been on Saturday
• contrasted that to 4 of sheff utd final 16 home games have been on Saturday.

it shows what absoulte show the EFL deal has been for fans. that its now premier league is better for clubs like us. because ipswich have had 57% of home games on a saturday compared to just 25% for us

 

[Bladesman]