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Or worse still we could call them pigs and ask them to stop supporting the Blades as some people like to do.

That's another good one.

If you are moaning so much, why don't you support someone else?

Don't people realise, that is how you get Leeds United?

pommpey
 



Are you pissed?

pommpey


What a good comeback. No faecal matter, no engines, no swearing and no dealing with the - true- point, for the third day running.

Tell me more about those wonderful football role models Meelan and Harry.
 
Or worse still we could call them pigs and ask them to stop supporting the Blades as some people like to do.


Back to "ignore" Barney, you lasted about 5 days. Who will remind me about my meds now I wonder? I'll tip over the edge no doubt.
 
What a good comeback. No faecal matter, no engines, no swearing and no dealing with the - true- point, for the third day running.

Tell me more about those wonderful football role models Meelan and Harry.

Back when Milandric was in charge of Portsmouth, he appointed Harry Redknapp as team manager. He funded Redknapp's drive to improve the team, largely based on the fact that Fratton Park was usually more than 65% full on most games, rising to as much as 99% full as they climbed the ta ble. It wasn't fanciful to imagine FP being either expanded where it sat, (back then) sandwiched between turn of the century terraces in Fratton and Milton, or better still build a fit for purpose sports centre/stadium to rival Southampton's St Mary's 32000 seater out at Drayton or Farlington Marshes, which would free the B2030 Eastern Road, Milton, Copnor and Fratton from the absolute hell Saturday afternoon brought and do away with away fans braving Goldsmith Avenue to get back to Fratton Station. The sums were done and the fact that the new stadium was between Portsmouth, Waterlooville and Havant ... real centers of Pompey support with potential to reach up the A3 as far as Guildford, and along the A27 to pull in Chichester, the prospect of filing the new Pompey stadium was a real one. The results came in, Pompey climbed the tables and threatened the Premier League. But Milandric's ambitions to move FP out of Pompey were stymied at every step - Farlington = wildlife, Drayton = posh neighbours (despite it being right by the motorway feeding east/west and a railway feeding north and south. Even an idea to put the ground by Horsea Island over the other side was blocked. PCC just didn't like Pompey (unless they were winning cups) and didn't want them moning out of the city. Revenues dropped, players wages soared, Milandric got pissed off and he eventually fucked off taking what the club owed him, and a number of other fuck ups and failures followed, Gaydamac amongst them, and they ended up broke, owing millions to players from yore. And as soon as the modestly funded fans' consortium took over and they were facing relegation, they dicked us 3-0. I may have gone to that match.

This is a condensed, third party witness account, not tinged with newspaper drama of fans' bias. You might go and search and find what you want, but I read the back pages down here and spoke to fans, on almost a daily basis. Milandric may have been a twat, but his intent was correct. Good manager (and Redknapp was good for Pompey regardless of more recent developments) good players (for their purpose, to get promotion) and ambitions to build the club bigger.

Happy to help

pommpey
 
Anybody who went last night will understand the benefit of having our nice desso pitch after watching us miscontrol and mislay passes on that rugby surface .utb
 
Back when Milandric was in charge of Portsmouth, he appointed Harry Redknapp as team manager. He funded Redknapp's drive to improve the team, largely based on the fact that Fratton Park was usually more than 65% full on most games, rising to as much as 99% full as they climbed the ta ble. It wasn't fanciful to imagine FP being either expanded where it sat, (back then) sandwiched between turn of the century terraces in Fratton and Milton, or better still build a fit for purpose sports centre/stadium to rival Southampton's St Mary's 32000 seater out at Drayton or Farlington Marshes, which would free the B2030 Eastern Road, Milton, Copnor and Fratton from the absolute hell Saturday afternoon brought and do away with away fans braving Goldsmith Avenue to get back to Fratton Station. The sums were done and the fact that the new stadium was between Portsmouth, Waterlooville and Havant ... real centers of Pompey support with potential to reach up the A3 as far as Guildford, and along the A27 to pull in Chichester, the prospect of filing the new Pompey stadium was a real one. The results came in, Pompey climbed the tables and threatened the Premier League. But Milandric's ambitions to move FP out of Pompey were stymied at every step - Farlington = wildlife, Drayton = posh neighbours (despite it being right by the motorway feeding east/west and a railway feeding north and south. Even an idea to put the ground by Horsea Island over the other side was blocked. PCC just didn't like Pompey (unless they were winning cups) and didn't want them moning out of the city. Revenues dropped, players wages soared, Milandric got pissed off and he eventually fucked off taking what the club owed him, and a number of other fuck ups and failures followed, Gaydamac amongst them, and they ended up broke, owing millions to players from yore. And as soon as the modestly funded fans' consortium took over and they were facing relegation, they dicked us 3-0. I may have gone to that match.

This is a condensed, third party witness account, not tinged with newspaper drama of fans' bias. You might go and search and find what you want, but I read the back pages down here and spoke to fans, on almost a daily basis. Milandric may have been a twat, but his intent was correct. Good manager (and Redknapp was good for Pompey regardless of more recent developments) good players (for their purpose, to get promotion) and ambitions to build the club bigger.

Happy to help

pommpey
Thanks for the background info pommpey, but maybe it wasn't such a masterplan?
Surely some sort of planning permission for refurbishment of Fratton Park or new ground should have been obtained before upping the salaries,otherwise it's just 'living above your means'.
And, if the ground was 99% full AND Redknapp was improving the team, why did revenues drop?
Are you saying that because Portsmouth FC couldn't move away from Fratton Park, the fans got pissed off and stopped going?
 
Back when Milandric was in charge of Portsmouth, he appointed Harry Redknapp as team manager. He funded Redknapp's drive to improve the team, largely based on the fact that Fratton Park was usually more than 65% full on most games, rising to as much as 99% full as they climbed the ta ble. It wasn't fanciful to imagine FP being either expanded where it sat, (back then) sandwiched between turn of the century terraces in Fratton and Milton, or better still build a fit for purpose sports centre/stadium to rival Southampton's St Mary's 32000 seater out at Drayton or Farlington Marshes, which would free the B2030 Eastern Road, Milton, Copnor and Fratton from the absolute hell Saturday afternoon brought and do away with away fans braving Goldsmith Avenue to get back to Fratton Station. The sums were done and the fact that the new stadium was between Portsmouth, Waterlooville and Havant ... real centers of Pompey support with potential to reach up the A3 as far as Guildford, and along the A27 to pull in Chichester, the prospect of filing the new Pompey stadium was a real one. The results came in, Pompey climbed the tables and threatened the Premier League. But Milandric's ambitions to move FP out of Pompey were stymied at every step - Farlington = wildlife, Drayton = posh neighbours (despite it being right by the motorway feeding east/west and a railway feeding north and south. Even an idea to put the ground by Horsea Island over the other side was blocked. PCC just didn't like Pompey (unless they were winning cups) and didn't want them moning out of the city. Revenues dropped, players wages soared, Milandric got pissed off and he eventually fucked off taking what the club owed him, and a number of other fuck ups and failures followed, Gaydamac amongst them, and they ended up broke, owing millions to players from yore. And as soon as the modestly funded fans' consortium took over and they were facing relegation, they dicked us 3-0. I may have gone to that match.

This is a condensed, third party witness account, not tinged with newspaper drama of fans' bias. You might go and search and find what you want, but I read the back pages down here and spoke to fans, on almost a daily basis. Milandric may have been a twat, but his intent was correct. Good manager (and Redknapp was good for Pompey regardless of more recent developments) good players (for their purpose, to get promotion) and ambitions to build the club bigger.

Happy to help

pommpey
But surely after Wimbledon's problems finding a new stadium after they moved out of Plough Lane, and Brighton's after they were kicked out of the Goldstone were evidence enough for an intelligent businessman to realise that building a new stadium would be fraught with difficulties?
 
Thanks for the background info pommpey, but maybe it wasn't such a masterplan?
Surely some sort of planning permission for refurbishment of Fratton Park or new ground should have been obtained before upping the salaries,otherwise it's just 'living above your means'.
And, if the ground was 99% full AND Redknapp was improving the team, why did revenues drop?
Are you saying that because Portsmouth FC couldn't move away from Fratton Park, the fans got pissed off and stopped going?

No. Milandric and Redknapp had bought expensive high earners (and Redknapp was on a fair take home as well)

Yep, it was ambitious, some would say foolhardy. But you can't fault their want to make Pompey a bigger club and pull in more support by putting it in a better location and putting it in the PL. If you have a 19k ground and big earners, you'll reach a threshold as to what fans will pay to get in, as well as the take on the gate. The wages and fees for the players were literally sucking the life out of the club and to sustain it, you needed a bigger venue and more fans. The fans wouldn't be a problem with a 30-35k stadium (Scumpton were starting to founder at that time) and the catchment in southern Hampshire is there for the taking. Many fans don't go to Fratton because it is antiquated and difficult to access.

Look at Brighton's ground for an example of what could have been achieved.

pommpey
 
No. Milandric and Redknapp had bought expensive high earners (and Redknapp was on a fair take home as well)

Yep, it was ambitious, some would say foolhardy. But you can't fault their want to make Pompey a bigger club and pull in more support by putting it in a better location and putting it in the PL. If you have a 19k ground and big earners, you'll reach a threshold as to what fans will pay to get in, as well as the take on the gate. The wages and fees for the players were literally sucking the life out of the club and to sustain it, you needed a bigger venue and more fans. The fans wouldn't be a problem with a 30-35k stadium (Scumpton were starting to founder at that time) and the catchment in southern Hampshire is there for the taking. Many fans don't go to Fratton because it is antiquated and difficult to access.

Look at Brighton's ground for an example of what could have been achieved.

pommpey
I agree with all you say, but to not even have any sort of planning permission for a new stadium looks like madness - or an attempt at a 'fait accomplit'
Maybe councils are treated differently in Serbia?
 
This thread is a car crash.

The equivalent of someone turning up to a night out with dog shit on their shoe. You avert your eyes and thank god you're not involved.

Just thank god Dem Blayards are absolutely flying. UTB
 

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