Sharp scores again!

[agallonofmagnet]

If Billy Sharp is coming back to the lane I hope the blades have got somebody over there watching how they play him and how he needs feeding.

Do we want him back?

 

[ThatJa]

WHY
THESE
THREADS
EVERY
WEEK

Hes a doncaster player at the moment and this is a Blades category, he's doing well. Leave him be, he doesn't fit into our style. Doesn't mean we aren't a good team..

All hes doing whilst being at Doncaster is upping his sale price.

 

[Gingerblade]

WHY
THESE
THREADS
EVERY
WEEK

Hes a doncaster player at the moment and this is a Blades category, he's doing well. Leave him be, he doesn't fit into our style. Doesn't mean we aren't a good team..

All hes doing whilst being at Doncaster is upping his sale price.

Dam right, there's 11 plus players working hard, got a unbeaten run going yet its all negative on here.

 

[Darren]

WHY
THESE
THREADS
EVERY
WEEK

Hes a doncaster player at the moment and this is a Blades category, he's doing well. Leave him be, he doesn't fit into our style. Doesn't mean we aren't a good team..

All hes doing whilst being at Doncaster is upping his sale price.

Eh?

Sharp will be 24 in Feb and his contract is up in the summer. How can we possibly get any money for him?

 

[agallonofmagnet]

Not being negative at all, thinking of the present and the future!

 

[Willie Carlin]

Eh?

Sharp will be 24 in Feb and his contract is up in the summer. How can we possibly get any money for him?

I was under the impression he had another year on his contract Darren. Could be mistaken but I thought he signed a four year deal

 

[Houso]

He has definitely got another season after this one.

 

[Darren]

He has definitely got another season after this one.

ok, fair enough - can't understand why we gave him such a long contract!

 

[Houso]

Because the Pieman was in charge of negotiations!

 

[beightonblade]

Billy n cheap as chips don't go ...................................
so fc uk cheap as chips off an bring back Billy.

 

[jose_d_blade]

I cant believe how many fans could not see we was not playing to his strengths ,
Always knew he was good enough at this level and knew he’d do it at Donny sorry to say it but were not good enough at playing real football slackwell has no idea of how to use wingers so he won’t get the service he needs and deserves.
If you would like to see Billy back at the lane scoring goals then Blackwell has to go.
We can’t have both.
Takes a good manager to get the best out of good players haven’t seen this yet from Blackwell seen a lot of under performing.

 

[bartman]

I cant believe how many fans could not see we was not playing to his strengths ,
Always knew he was good enough at this level and knew he’d do it at Donny sorry to say it but were not good enough at playing real football slackwell has no idea of how to use wingers so he won’t get the service he needs and deserves.
If you would like to see Billy back at the lane scoring goals then Blackwell has to go.
We can’t have both.
Takes a good manager to get the best out of good players haven’t seen this yet from Blackwell seen a lot of under performing.

amazing that he nearly got us to the play offs in in first season(after being in relegation trouble),got us to aplay off final and has now took us to the verge of the play off places again. All this in circumstances where he has had to reduce the wage bill by about 40%.

Don't let the facts get in the way of slagging off Blackwell.

 

[moDtheGod]

I cant believe how many fans could not see we was not playing to his strengths

Boring. His strengths are falling over and being caught offside. What else can we do to make an average player fit in?

He came into the team and didn't enhance it, why should we restructre an entire TEAM which was working well enough without him, to suit his inability to do anything other than run about like a headless chicken?

 

[alcoblade]

why should we restructre an entire TEAM which was working well enough without him, to suit his inability to do anything other than run about like a headless chicken?

Because barring a spell with us when he couldn't accomodate our headless chicken tactics, he has an absolutely exceptional scoring record. NONE of our other strikers come anywhere near it.

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[moDtheGod]

His "absolutely exceptional" record of one in two with the giants that are Rushden and Diamonds and Scunthorpe? Oh please. See my comments in the other thread.

How many times has he scored this season, against a team that finished top half of the Championship last season?

[Edit] I'm going to answer my own question. I make it three times, against the huge, massive teams Bristol City, QPR and Sheffield Wednesday, who finished 10th, 11th and 12th last season and aren't exactly pulling up trees this year. Cutting it at this level? Really? Scunthorpe? Peterborough? Blackpool?

Please remember that Doncaster's entire game plan is supposedly tailored to suit him. You'd expect him to notch a few against shite like that when the entire team is geared up to "play to his strengths".

 

[alcoblade]

His "absolutely exceptional" record of one in two with the giants that are Rushden and Diamonds and Scunthorpe? Oh please. See my comments in the other thread.

How many times has he scored this season, against a team that finished top half of the Championship last season?

[Edit] I'm going to answer my own question. I make it three times, against the huge, massive teams Bristol City, QPR and Sheffield Wednesday, who finished 10th, 11th and 12th last season and aren't exactly pulling up trees this year. Cutting it at this level? Really? Scunthorpe? Peterborough? Blackpool?

Please remember that Doncaster's entire game plan is supposedly tailored to suit him. You'd expect him to notch a few against shite like that when the entire team is geared up to "play to his strengths".

he's record is exceptional at lower level, and is so at Doncaster. Your analysis of the teams he's scored against is, quite frankly, complete guff. Maybe you should write to the league with your new rules for lower point tally for beating the "poorer clubs".

Other than the fact that Doncaster play football and we don't, have you plucked the notion that they have geared the entire team around him out of your arse? I suspect so.

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[Muttley]

I'm with Alco on this. How many has Billyboy scored this season? More than Ched has done for us!! Not having a go at Ched, just stating a fact.

 

[shorehamview]

Other than the fact that Doncaster play football and we don't, have you plucked the notion that they have geared the entire team around him out of your arse? I suspect so.

UTB

We do play football. We are a football team. Sheffield United F.C. The F.C. stands for "Football Club." It even says so on the little badges on the shirts. Unless you have plucked the notion that we aren't a football team out of your arse?

 

[alcoblade]

We do play football. We are a football team. Sheffield United F.C. The F.C. stands for "Football Club." It even says so on the little badges on the shirts. Unless you have plucked the notion that we aren't a football team out of your arse?

We play hoofball. The FC stands for Fucking Crap.



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[moDtheGod]

he's record is exceptional at lower level, and is so at Doncaster. Your analysis of the teams he's scored against is, quite frankly, complete guff. Maybe you should write to the league with your new rules for lower point tally for beating the "poorer clubs".

Sorry, what don't you agree with?

You seem to agree that his lower league record is good, so that's dealt with, now for the Championship.

Has he scored against anyone good, or what? Quite a few people have suggested that Billy Sharp is now proving that he can cut it at this level when really, all he's done is enjoy a fantastic patch of form (short term, thus not proving anything long term) against the weaker teams in the league (i.e. teams that were rammell last season and teams that are rammell this season). What have I said that's so ridiculous?

have you plucked the notion that they have geared the entire team around him out of your arse?

See, what I've done there, is try to make a point. A lot of people are suggesting we should get him back and build the entire team around him, regardless of the strengths of the TEAM as a WHOLE. A lot of these same people keep saying that Doncaster have a style of football that suits his style. Well as far as I can tell, a team that was doing perfectly well last season should never have to change it's entire ethos, perhaps overlooking the strengths of other players, to incorporate one average player, whose "style of play" seems to be falling over a lot.

While we're in the mood for pulling things out of our arses, perhaps you could remove your head from your own orifice and see just how terrible he was over a longer period (not just ten games) in a Blades shirt?

 

[Kev Gee]

Sorry, what don't you agree with?

You seem to agree that his lower league record is good, so that's dealt with, now for the Championship.

Has he scored against anyone good, or what? Quite a few people have suggested that Billy Sharp is now proving that he can cut it at this level when really, all he's done is enjoy a fantastic patch of form (short term, thus not proving anything long term) against the weaker teams in the league (i.e. teams that were rammell last season and teams that are rammell this season). What have I said that's so ridiculous?



See, what I've done there, is try to make a point. A lot of people are suggesting we should get him back and build the entire team around him, regardless of the strengths of the TEAM as a WHOLE. A lot of these same people keep saying that Doncaster have a style of football that suits his style. Well as far as I can tell, a team that was doing perfectly well last season should never have to change it's entire ethos, perhaps overlooking the strengths of other players, to incorporate one average player, whose "style of play" seems to be falling over a lot.

While we're in the mood for pulling things out of our arses, perhaps you could remove your head from your own orifice and see just how terrible he was over a longer period (not just ten games) in a Blades shirt?

He played poorly because he was asked to play a certain way & it wasnt suited to his game.

Would you ask owen or crouch to change there game & be as effective against Pl teams as they were?
No i dont think so,

 

[TonyAgana]

Unfortunately, these threads are a waste of time in the first place. The fact is that Kevin Blackwell will never put Billy Sharp on the pitch ever again. He has said so himself.

The question that raises is should we commend Blackwell for being strong-willed and sticking to his guns, or should we worry a little that Blackwell is running the team with an iron-fist?

For me, any manager who shuts the door on any player because of personal issues should question if their commitment is more to the success of the team or to his ego. I can understand not tolerating insubordination but this isn't the armed forces, is it?

 

[Bladegirl]

The way RS trot out the mantra that billy doesn't fit seems to me to indicate that KB has already made his mind up (altho that might not be true). Also he was supposed to be loaned out to get confidence and then review the situation, but it now seems a fait accompli.

Don't forget either that we're paying some of billys wages to a team who may be competing with us for a play off place the way they are going at the minute.

Any manager in my opinion shouldn't be displaying stubbornness, or an inabilty to nurture, improve and to develop further any players for the benefit of the team.

KB, in my opinion, should wait until the end of his season long loan is nearing and then review the situation.

makes me mad as hell >

 

[Willie Carlin]

Me too Bladegirl, Me too.

 

[alcoblade]

Sorry, what don't you agree with?

You seem to agree that his lower league record is good, so that's dealt with, now for the Championship.

Has he scored against anyone good, or what? Quite a few people have suggested that Billy Sharp is now proving that he can cut it at this level when really, all he's done is enjoy a fantastic patch of form (short term, thus not proving anything long term) against the weaker teams in the league (i.e. teams that were rammell last season and teams that are rammell this season). What have I said that's so ridiculous?



See, what I've done there, is try to make a point. A lot of people are suggesting we should get him back and build the entire team around him, regardless of the strengths of the TEAM as a WHOLE. A lot of these same people keep saying that Doncaster have a style of football that suits his style. Well as far as I can tell, a team that was doing perfectly well last season should never have to change it's entire ethos, perhaps overlooking the strengths of other players, to incorporate one average player, whose "style of play" seems to be falling over a lot.

While we're in the mood for pulling things out of our arses, perhaps you could remove your head from your own orifice and see just how terrible he was over a longer period (not just ten games) in a Blades shirt?

Billy Sharp is scoring against whatever opposition take to the field against Doncaster, week in week out. I find your assessment that it doesn't really count because they aren't the best teams laughable.

We may have been doing perfectly well last season, but we aren't this. Many fans, like me, put up with it last season but are bored shitless with it this. I want to see us change our style, or manager, or both. Our leading goalscorer is injured and our big signing wouldn't get a game with the Red Lion. Goalscorers are very hard to come by, so it's reasonable to question why Sharp didn't cut it with us, and why he might in future. I'm not so blinkered to suggest he did do it for us the first time. I'm not so blinkered to not question if he could do it again. It seems you are.

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[moDtheGod]

Where did I say it doesn't count? Of course it counts. What I'm saying is, the people who say he's now proving he can cut it at this level aren't really correct as he's only scoring against what are arguably League One teams. And that's his level in my eyes.

On top of all that, he's only scoring because he's the main man there. It's similar to when Beattie was here - "give it to Beattie" was the gameplan. He's never going to be afforded that status at the Lane and if my acceptance of that fact means I'm blinkered, then I'm blinkered.

 

[alcoblade]

On top of all that, he's only scoring because he's the main man there. It's similar to when Beattie was here - "give it to Beattie" was the gameplan. He's never going to be afforded that status at the Lane and if my acceptance of that fact means I'm blinkered, then I'm blinkered.

There you go again. On what do you base that? Because in your opinion he's the big fish in the small pond? For someone trying to build a factual argument, this seems a little baseless.

Where did I say it doesn't count? Of course it counts. What I'm saying is, the people who say he's now proving he can cut it at this level aren't really correct as he's only scoring against what are arguably League One teams. And that's his level in my eyes.

if the fact that they aren't league one teams can't in itself convince you that in fact they aren't league one teams, then your sense of logic renders this (or any) debate pointless.

Wibble.

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[implied]

Where did I say it doesn't count? Of course it counts. What I'm saying is, the people who say he's now proving he can cut it at this level aren't really correct as he's only scoring against what are arguably League One teams. And that's his level in my eyes.

Arguably League One teams?

Derby County
Bristol City
Sheffield Wednesday
Crystal Palace
Nottingham Forest
Queens Park Rangers
Blackpool
Peterborough United
Scunthorpe Town

Nonsense.

 

[Grecian2000]

What I'm saying is, the people who say he's now proving he can cut it at this level aren't really correct as he's only scoring against what are arguably League One teams.

I'm a bit confused by this. I would say those 24 teams that currently reside in League One are the League One teams. As far as I can tell when we beat (or lose to in Scunthorpe and Blackpool's case) these teams we still get three points, why's this if they are only League One teams?
Can we have a definitive list of which teams really count in each division so we know the relative merits of games against them? Would make it a lot more interesting than those pesky and outdated league tables.

Oh, quick message to Daz Henderson, "Give that bloody matchball back to Bristol City. They're only a League One team so you can't claim a Championship hat-trick against them".

 

[boo radley]

Scenario to consider.
If Billy continues to score for Doncaster and they get a play off place Billy scores in play off final to get them in to the Prem. What price do they pay for Mr sharp? Did we pay 2 to 2.5 mil for him?