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Next Blades Manager - who do you want

  • Keep faith with Selles

    Votes: 3 1.0%
  • Chris Wilder

    Votes: 129 43.1%
  • Sean Dyche

    Votes: 88 29.4%
  • Gary O'Neil

    Votes: 7 2.3%
  • John Mousinho

    Votes: 21 7.0%
  • Paul Heckingbottom

    Votes: 5 1.7%
  • Danny Rohl

    Votes: 29 9.7%
  • Michael Carrick

    Votes: 17 5.7%

  • Total voters
    299

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I posted a poll recently, but since then things have changed..

Steve Cooper (the popular choice) has taken an overseas role with Bronbdy...

... whilst surprisingly, Chris Wilder
(an omission from the previous poll as it didn't feel realistic) is apparently back under consideration.

Added a couple of extra names in there and the option of sticking with Selles.

Interested to hear your thoughts a few weeks on.
 

Bringing him back what would be the point really?

There are other managers out there that would also be able to get us up the table too.

I can think of an awful lot of reasons why we would bring him back...

Multiple EFL promotions on his CV, knows the players, knows how to motivate them, knows how to connect the fans with the players / coaches...
There would definitely be a galvanising effect which is badly needed.

There's a case against also, but it has to be weighed up against the other options.

The only one that excited me was Steve Cooper and he's gone.

From what's left, I do see Wilder as a no brainer.
 
I can think of an awful lot of reasons why we would bring him back...

Multiple EFL promotions on his CV, knows the players, knows how to motivate them, knows how to connect the fans with the players / coaches...
There would definitely be a galvanising effect which is badly needed.

There's a case against also, but it has to be weighed up against the other options.

The only one that excited me was Steve Cooper and he's gone.

From what's left, I do see Wilder as a no brainer.
You make some very good points but I believe he would divide the fanbase like never before
 
i hate my self for saying this. because it irrates me that you have go back to mid 90s for last "outsider" that was successful in the league. espically as i thought it was time for him to go

but it probably does have to be wilder. just for some passion & to survive relegation. then DOF, to advise the board. as his knowledge of sheffield united culture could be invaluable
 
Bringing him back what would be the point really?

There are other managers out there that would also be able to get us up the table too.
I'm becoming more convinced that bringing CW and Knill back for the rest of the season is the only logical choice. They know the majority of players who clearly rate them and would keep us up.
Use rest of the season to regroup, get in a DoF (Wilder?), bring in a young coach and completely revamp the recruitment team
 
1st choice Dyche just edges out Wilder but 99% certain he won’t come as he can realistically expect a job in the PL, also would be very expensive.
2nd choice Wilder would be cheaper/ better value and gaurantees stability and a top half finish….might even sneak into the play-offs, wouldn’t surprise me.
3rd choice Rohl could be really good but pretty risky, could go pear shaped and then all the Wedneday fans will be laughing calling him agent Danny.

Last choice: Selles, still find it hard to believe how he’s been so poor, it’s as though he’d deliberately trying to be sacked.
 

The saddest thing about this situation is how it exposes our new owners as complete knuckle heads. No proper due diligence re the Selles appointment ( they seem genuinely shocked by how bad it was yesterday) yet, they appointment the guy. No plan B, this approaching Wilder stuff just smacks of panic buying. They really don't know much about football let alone how to run a club
 
Out of that list be wilder 1st choice then danny rohl. Definitely don't want dyche people moan about the style under wilder by his is even worse
 
I posted a poll recently, but since then things have changed..

Steve Cooper (the popular choice) has taken an overseas role with Bronbdy...

... whilst surprisingly, Chris Wilder
(an omission from the previous poll as it didn't feel realistic) is apparently back under consideration.

Added a couple of extra names in there and the option of sticking with Selles.

Interested to hear your thoughts a few weeks on.
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None of the above for me. Until the owners change the off field structure there is unlikely to be an improvement. The fact they are genuinely surprised how bad we were last night reflects the fact they have a complete lack of understanding of what is needed on the pitch. We need a DOF in now. This provides an experienced football person on the Board with a remit to bring in the right manager whilst managing recruitment. sports science and medical issues. The suggestion today that there is a desire to change upstairs is a start but it has to be the right appointment. Someone with experience of the role of Sporting/ Technical /DOF. Paul Mitchell ex Newcastle Sporting Director and David Weir ex Brighton Technical Director are available now.

Only when the change has been made will the Club attract the better qualified Head coaches such as Roseinor and Blessin.
 
None of the above for me. Until the owners change the off field structure there is unlikely to be an improvement. The fact they are genuinely surprised how bad we were last night reflects the fact they have a complete lack of understanding of what is needed on the pitch. We need a DOF in now. This provides an experienced football person on the Board with a remit to bring in the right manager whilst managing recruitment. sports science and medical issues. The suggestion today that there is a desire to change upstairs is a start but it has to be the right appointment. Someone with experience of the role of Sporting/ Technical /DOF. Paul Mitchell ex Newcastle Sporting Director and David Weir ex Brighton Technical Director are available now.

Only when the change has been made will the Club attract the better qualified Head coaches such as Roseinor and Blessin.

Unlikely to be an improvement on now?

On the field?
 
Whether pro or anti Chris Wilder what makes anyone think a DoF role would make sense? A position he has spoken out against and would cut his day to day contact with players.

Plus he’d need an assistant for the signing strikers bit of the job! ( l know, hater etc etc etc)
 
Should the question be do you trust the board to get the replacement manager choice right? So far they have made more bad decisions on recruitment than good. For one, I'm not confident on their choice.
 
I can think of an awful lot of reasons why we would bring him back...

Multiple EFL promotions on his CV, knows the players, knows how to motivate them, knows how to connect the fans with the players / coaches...
There would definitely be a galvanising effect which is badly needed.

There's a case against also, but it has to be weighed up against the other options.

The only one that excited me was Steve Cooper and he's gone.

From what's left, I do see Wilder as a no brainer.
The owners had, in their minds, good reasons for moving on following failure to get promoted.
Presumably those good reasons still exist, but the problem they made was in appointing Selles.
 
I can think of an awful lot of reasons why we would bring him back...

Multiple EFL promotions on his CV, knows the players, knows how to motivate them, knows how to connect the fans with the players / coaches...
There would definitely be a galvanising effect which is badly needed.

There's a case against also, but it has to be weighed up against the other options.

The only one that excited me was Steve Cooper and he's gone.

From what's left, I do see Wilder as a no brainer.
That’s my biggest concern with bringing him back, yes he worked with some of the youngsters and a handful in the match day squad. However as the squad hasn’t been picked by him, it is a different side to last year. 6 of the starting line up against Ipswich were with him including Cannon who is still in the same unworkable position as last season. He would be struggling to put out a full 11 that he had last season.

Currently granted Wilder has had multiple EFL promotions but he hasn’t taken a side that is bottom of the league and done it. I honestly think as a fan base we need to start thinking realistically, the first target is getting a point or 3, then building from there. I would be happy at this stage of the season to be comfortable mid table without a relegation scrap by April. But let’s say we appoint him or another and they did the unthinkable and got us up. We would need to recruit 15 players to have a chance of staying up, we would be in for a season where 5-0 losses is every week and we are celebrating like we have won the league when we get a 0-0 vs Palace
 
One of the problems of loan players is you have to rebuild the team every season. Presently to much reliance on loans who should be to enhance and not form the basis. If and when Selles leaves whoever comes in will inherit our present playing squad and will need to adapt style of play to the overall strength of these players.
I remember Wilder with his free flow attacking football but recently he has come more dependent on defending, which lets be honest let us down ultimately last season. This probably dependent on the ability to attract players.
Wilder i think would initially unite the fans, but would come under the same pressure if results don;t change. Who ever followed Wilder was up against it from the start and probably will need a manager or two before the fan base is more settled.
My heart says Wilder but my head says long term no but for the style of football don't want Dyche. He is probably the best manager to get us out of this mess.
This seasons focus is staying in the championship, but we have to adapt our style of play to be successful in the premier league.
You can most certainly say that last seasons we would win but you left the game not totally having enjoyed the experience. This season so far, you leave the game with many different emotions but still not having enjoyed the game.
 

I feel that the club is in a bit of an emergency mode at the minute, I felt it was time for Wilder to move on when he did, he was acting badly and became embrassing. But that was last season and right now we need to think a bit shorter term and get quickly out of this incredible mess we have found ourselves in. I can see Wilder making an immediate impact and that is what we need.
If we got another manager in, would it be reasonable to give them a few games to change things around ? Suddenly we could be adrift, albeit very early in the season., then a wait until the next transfer window to fill the gaps we have.

The club needs a long term plan, but now is not the right time for that, we cannot even comprehend that we have a chance of going down, it would set the club back years.

Short term: Need to get out of this mess we find ourselves in. We need to create chances and score goals. We need to get Hamer firing, Cooper back to his best, Campbell looking at his best again - and quickly.
Medium Term: We need to fix the mess that was this ludicrous AI policy, get a proper system back in place for recruitment and have a better plan for moving forward.
Long term: We will need to move on from Wilder, but this time it needs to be at the right time, under the right circumstances and with a proper plan for the future with a manager who has calibre and direction fit for the club and not a plan that appears to have been written on the back of a fag packet.

For me personally, Wilder now on the basis that he won't need to settle in and 'get to know the club'. I liked the idea of the report that was knocking around about Wilder being a Sporting Director, we need that really bad - even if it is not Wilder - we need somebody who understands and speaks fluent football to put some sensibility back into the seemingly crazy scenario we find ourselves in.
 

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