Season ticket boycott

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Linz, did we not have debates on here about innovative ideas regarding season tickets?
Did we not have lots of ideas?
Did we not suggest this was part of Batho's role?
/snip
It's a pretty frank admission we seem to be wasting our time, Batho's pointless and so on.

I think to suggest, as you appear to be, that there is no financial considerations to be taken when pricing season tickets is choosing which parts of the debate you wish to see and which you don't. You appear to be suggesting that the reason we won't have season tickets for £100 or whatever is because we didn't push hard enough for it!

If you think Richard Batho held the final decision as to the pricing, you are very much mistaken. If you think he didn't put your ideas forward, as Foxy and I forwarded them on, again you are very much mistaken.

However, the final decisions are taken at a senior management level which is the domain of Steve Lewis (the head of Commercial) with input from Dave Harrop (chief finance officer). Richard Batho wants what's best for fans and put our feedback forward. However, the senior managers are charged with making money for the club and somehow, they all have to meet in the middle.

No doubt I'll be accused of "sticking up for the club" in pointing that out though :rolleyes:

However, I won't be around much longer to read it because I'm going to chill out in a tent for a couple of days.
 

Thanks Linz.
You've provided more information, even if it's still relatively scant, on the process than our alleged fans' rep has at any point.
 
I would suggest that ST ticket renewal prices for next season were agreed before Batho was even installed in his new role.
 
Thanks Linz.
You've provided more information, even if it's still relatively scant, on the process than our alleged fans' rep has at any point.

I don't get all these hang ups with Batho, he's set up several forums from what I can see, plus if you read certain publications and websites - For example Matchday programme and the OS, then you see where his mark is being made.

They of course aren't all signed off 'Batho' and probably aren't all direct results of Batho, but its clear that things are being put into practice that weren't happening before. For example, the PA system, it was mentioned in the programme that the PA and sound system was being tested on Sat...

The constant demand for accountability is a bit ridiculous
 
The constant demand for accountability is a bit ridiculous

Swiss, do you expect anything less? For certain people on here this forum is an excuse for an anonymous (the key word) crusade against the club. Even those of us who are massively pissed off with matters on the pitch dont bang on about every single commercial/financial decision that is made, a) because we can do very little about it and b) because its boring to prattle on about the same things all the time.

Those that have to come on here and force an agenda on others either have nothing better to do or support a rival club under the guise of a Blade. I tend to get the feeling it is predominantly the latter.
 
I think to suggest, as you appear to be, that there is no financial considerations to be taken when pricing season tickets is choosing which parts of the debate you wish to see and which you don't. You appear to be suggesting that the reason we won't have season tickets for £100 or whatever is because we didn't push hard enough for it!

If you think Richard Batho held the final decision as to the pricing, you are very much mistaken. If you think he didn't put your ideas forward, as Foxy and I forwarded them on, again you are very much mistaken.

However, the final decisions are taken at a senior management level which is the domain of Steve Lewis (the head of Commercial) with input from Dave Harrop (chief finance officer). Richard Batho wants what's best for fans and put our feedback forward. However, the senior managers are charged with making money for the club and somehow, they all have to meet in the middle.

No doubt I'll be accused of "sticking up for the club" in pointing that out though :rolleyes:

However, I won't be around much longer to read it because I'm going to chill out in a tent for a couple of days.

I think the phrase was "Toeing the party line" ;)
 
I don't get all these hang ups with Batho, he's set up several forums from what I can see, plus if you read certain publications and websites - For example Matchday programme and the OS, then you see where his mark is being made.

They of course aren't all signed off 'Batho' and probably aren't all direct results of Batho, but its clear that things are being put into practice that weren't happening before. For example, the PA system, it was mentioned in the programme that the PA and sound system was being tested on Sat...

The constant demand for accountability is a bit ridiculous

Of course. I've read extensively what he's done with season ticket ideas, the whole process, what his views are, the club's feedback - it's all on forums, the OS, in the programme.
But at least something's happening with the PA system and we now come out to 'Won't Get Fooled Again' which was, without doubt, the most inspired choice of music so far.
 
and we now come out to 'Won't Get Fooled Again' which was, without doubt, the most inspired choice of music so far.

Ha, I'd forgotten that. I assumed it was some piss taker who had taken command of the PA when it started playing. I laughed at the time but the subsequent second half made all thoughts of fun disappear quite rapildy.
 
Speaking of tune choice, did anybody else notice we walked out to Pet Shop Boys singing 'What have I done to deserve this' on Saturday - Comical Genius!!
 
Of course. I've read extensively what he's done with season ticket ideas, the whole process, what his views are, the club's feedback - it's all on forums, the OS, in the programme.
But at least something's happening with the PA system and we now come out to 'Won't Get Fooled Again' which was, without doubt, the most inspired choice of music so far.

I'm away and have missed a few games, but did we really come out to that? If so, it's brilliant!

Richard Batho's clearly got right up your nose for one reason or another, in which case he's doing something right, good on him.

I've given this some thought len, I do have your best interests at heart. Following United (and I believe you do, I'm not in the fifth columnist grunter camp) clearly makes you deeply unhappy, even the promotion season was agony for you and that was as good as it's ever likely to get. It probably is best for everyone concerned (and that's all of us), if you do your own personal season ticket boycott and give up on the team and the club. You can devote your time to something that leaves you less frustrated, though I suspect it's a perpetual state for you, you'd feel the same about gardening.

The rest of us could then get on with dealing with realities, not speculating wildly on what will happen that shouldn't and what won't happen but definitely should.
 
>What exactly would there be to gloat about?
umm.. that i was right and bob's faith was misplaced.. presumably
 
Trig,
Batho doesn't get up my nose, I'm not even convinced he actually exists.
McCabe gets up my nose though, do you think that means he must be doing something right?
As for next year, I'm sure you'll find lots of deeply unhappy, frustrated Blades will no longer be darkening your door and you'll be able to enjoy your football in a wonderfully positive atmosphere with loads and loads of fresh air with all the empty spaces around.
And as for season ticket ideas or other ticket ideas, I know you haven't been on for a while, but trust me that the ideas were well thought out by many posters, dealt with reality and were not speculating wildly.
Mebbes you should look before you leap and deal with the reality of what's posted, not what you imagine.
That's me having your best interests at heart and trying to help you not continuing to look silly.
The stalking, I'm not sure I can do anything about.
 
>Batho doesn't get up my nose, I'm not even convinced he actually exists
he must lurk on here if he is doing his job i'd hazard a guess.. come on.. show yourself :D
 
To be honest Len the more I hear from you on this,i'll buy a season ticket inspite of McCabe.
No one,not McCabe,not you ... No one, is driving me away from United.
My bro in law's season ticket has always cost him more to watch the Millers than mine has for the Blades
Maybe we should get a comparison of season tickets around the clubs.
Anyone who cannot afford any increase in these times has my sympathy. Anyone who just is not going to renew then that is fine by me.
I'll be reneweing whatever ... Got that JD ?
 

Good for you Alien. The club, or is that McCabe, will be relying on the likes of you more and more.
 
He'll keep offering you Orange Clubs Jade, don't whatever you do take one or you'll never hear the last of it....
 
Trig,
Batho doesn't get up my nose, I'm not even convinced he actually exists.
McCabe gets up my nose though, do you think that means he must be doing something right?
As for next year, I'm sure you'll find lots of deeply unhappy, frustrated Blades will no longer be darkening your door and you'll be able to enjoy your football in a wonderfully positive atmosphere with loads and loads of fresh air with all the empty spaces around.
And as for season ticket ideas or other ticket ideas, I know you haven't been on for a while, but trust me that the ideas were well thought out by many posters, dealt with reality and were not speculating wildly.
Mebbes you should look before you leap and deal with the reality of what's posted, not what you imagine.
That's me having your best interests at heart and trying to help you not continuing to look silly.
The stalking, I'm not sure I can do anything about.

Actually len, I don't have a season ticket, Trig Jnr (TY) and I had had enough by the end of last season, the football was excruciating, and since then it's got worse. There were other personal factors involved in our decision too. So, we're two of the however many thousand it was who voted with their feet, in our case, after 18 years. We've still been to games but only occasionally.

You probably weren't even aware that we've abandoned ship. That's becasue I don't feel the need to announce my deep disenchantment with what's happened at my club, relentlessly and tediously, at every verse end, the same boring theme every single day as others do (keeping it general, so it doesn't look like a personal attack).

The wild speculation I was referring to is what you think will happen with season ticket prices and offers, because you don't know, you've no idea, but you aren't going to let that get in the way of you proclaiming in advance that whatever it is will be wrong. That doesn't sit at all easily with your suggestion that I should deal with the reality, it's not something you do a great deal of and certainly not in this case. The depressing thing is that when the announcemnt is made, whatever it is, we'll have to go through it all again.
 
He'll keep offering you Orange Clubs Jade, don't whatever you do take one or you'll never hear the last of it....

And they weren't drugged you and Greeny just ended up naked in bed with me through choice .............
 
Loud and clear! :D

Just me and thee next seaon then. I'll give you a wave. :wave:

I'll be there as well but I can't promise a wave as it will be difficult for me to tear my eyes away from the rivetting fare being served up on the pitch by the new HMS Piss the League ;)
 
Actually len, I don't have a season ticket, Trig Jnr (TY) and I had had enough by the end of last season, the football was excruciating, and since then it's got worse. There were other personal factors involved in our decision too. So, we're two of the however many thousand it was who voted with their feet, in our case, after 18 years. We've still been to games but only occasionally.

You probably weren't even aware that we've abandoned ship. That's becasue I don't feel the need to announce my deep disenchantment with what's happened at my club, relentlessly and tediously, at every verse end, the same boring theme every single day as others do (keeping it general, so it doesn't look like a personal attack).

The wild speculation I was referring to is what you think will happen with season ticket prices and offers, because you don't know, you've no idea, but you aren't going to let that get in the way of you proclaiming in advance that whatever it is will be wrong. That doesn't sit at all easily with your suggestion that I should deal with the reality, it's not something you do a great deal of and certainly not in this case. The depressing thing is that when the announcemnt is made, whatever it is, we'll have to go through it all again.

Trig, it doesn't sound as if you have much to contribute and you didn't when it came to ideas about season tickets or general ticket sales.
My guess is that was too much reality for you and when it came to dealing with it, thinking about it, doing something positive and coming up with ideas, nah, that just isn't your bag, is it.
Instead, it's more important and definitely much easier to carry on your tedious stalking.
I accept you're depressed about United but instead of just being miserable about it, how about doing something positive like other posters.
How about having some ideas.
Try to use the energy you expend on negativity in a more positive way.
 
Trig, it doesn't sound as if you have much to contribute and you didn't when it came to ideas about season tickets or general ticket sales.
My guess is that was too much reality for you and when it came to dealing with it, thinking about it, doing something positive and coming up with ideas, nah, that just isn't your bag, is it.
Instead, it's more important and definitely much easier to carry on your tedious stalking.
I accept you're depressed about United but instead of just being miserable about it, how about doing something positive like other posters.
How about having some ideas.
Try to use the energy you expend on negativity in a more positive way.

I do believe I just laughed out loud. Sublime.

:D :D :D
 
Trig, it doesn't sound as if you have much to contribute and you didn't when it came to ideas about season tickets or general ticket sales.
My guess is that was too much reality for you and when it came to dealing with it, thinking about it, doing something positive and coming up with ideas, nah, that just isn't your bag, is it.
Instead, it's more important and definitely much easier to carry on your tedious stalking.
I accept you're depressed about United but instead of just being miserable about it, how about doing something positive like other posters.
How about having some ideas.
Try to use the energy you expend on negativity in a more positive way.

Len, you really are a tosser of the highest degree.

(the ban is worth it - see you in three days)
 
I think to suggest, as you appear to be, that there is no financial considerations to be taken when pricing season tickets is choosing which parts of the debate you wish to see and which you don't. You appear to be suggesting that the reason we won't have season tickets for £100 or whatever is because we didn't push hard enough for it!

If you think Richard Batho held the final decision as to the pricing, you are very much mistaken. If you think he didn't put your ideas forward, as Foxy and I forwarded them on, again you are very much mistaken.

However, the final decisions are taken at a senior management level which is the domain of Steve Lewis (the head of Commercial) with input from Dave Harrop (chief finance officer). Richard Batho wants what's best for fans and put our feedback forward. However, the senior managers are charged with making money for the club and somehow, they all have to meet in the middle.

No doubt I'll be accused of "sticking up for the club" in pointing that out though :rolleyes:

However, I won't be around much longer to read it because I'm going to chill out in a tent for a couple of days.


Blimey. Tenting at this time of year. Hope you've got a heater, otherwise 'chill out' will be a very accurate description!

With regard to season ticket pricing, there are obviously numerous ways that pricing can be approached. And as you quite rightly say, the club has to try and make money. The best way to do that would be to pay the players what they're worth - which isn't very much . Then we could lower the season ticket price to a few pounds.;)

However, given that noone else would do this, I think the pool of players willing to come and play for us would probably diminish quite a bit.

In reality, there is only so far that the club can go in reducing prices, as if they go too far, it won't matter how many people go through the turnstiles it won't make up for the revenue lost by down pricing.

A decision on whether or not to renew is very much an individual decision. And most people will consider several factors, of which price is just one.

For myself, after much thought, I did not renew last season. I was a bit fed up of making a 300 mile round trip to watch some pretty poor stuff, and it seemed to be getting poorer. The way we were playing I thought we might be in for a season of struggle this season. (I didn't expect it to be quite such a big struggle, though!). I was also a bit indignant that the price went up when the football was clearly getting worse, wage costs were clearly being reduced, and when we had sold off so many players.

However, it wasn't just this alone. Travel is also more costly now, so this has to be factored in along with the cost of the season ticket. And I knew I was't going to be able to get to quite a few games. Evening games in particular can be a problem for me. In the past I've not bothered about that and been happy to pay for the ticket even though I probably ended up paying more than on a match by match basis. But given the rubbish I was watching, I decided to give it a break.

I haven't made up my mind whether or not to get a season ticket for next season. But oddly, I feel more inclined to get one than I did for last season. I feel we really are at a low ebb as a club, and my natural reaction to that is to want to support us as much as I can. The situation does remind me of the late 1970s and early 1980s. And it was during our spell in the 3rd and 4th divisions in the early 1980s that my match day attendance was probably at it's highest. I don't know why, but it seemed to matter a lot more to me, because we were so low. But it has to be said, we were still better than we are now. (or perhaps the memory is playing tricks again!)
 
I haven't made up my mind whether or not to get a season ticket for next season. But oddly, I feel more inclined to get one than I did for last season. I feel we really are at a low ebb as a club, and my natural reaction to that is to want to support us as much as I can. The situation does remind me of the late 1970s and early 1980s.

Bang on. It's what you do in the bad times that defines the supporter. The club needs us. I have no problem with the consumer mentality that the product isn't worth the price. But I want to be one of those who, when we lift the cup in 2015 (:D), can say "I stuck with them again, and again..."

UTB
 
Boycott season tickets? In the words of a famous philosopher, fuck that shit.

I will be renewing my season ticket for several reasons. I don't work when matches are played. It gets me out of the house and away from domestic chores and occasionally lets me have a few beers before and very occasionally after the match too. I can afford it, because I am loaded. And I am a Blade. What else am I going to do of a Saturday afternoon? Go shopping? Do the garden? Take up a new and interesting hobby? I am fully aware that Sheffield United are not playing like Barcelona, or even Barnsley, but what should I do? Have a hissy fit unless they drop the price to an as yet undetermined figure then moan like hell when they don't because they haven't done enough?

Fuck that shit.

The days of anonymous voices telling me what to do are not yet upon us. I'll make my own mind up, thank you. If you want to show how much of a massive fan you are by not actually going then that's up to you, but I'll be renewing my season ticket. Not because I've been sweet-talked by Trevor Birch. Not because I've been personally visited by Kevin McCabe. No, because I want to. I've been a Sheffield United supporter for a long time. Nothing has changed. I renew my season ticket because I can, and because I want to.

I don't take advice from anonymous grumps. Stay at home tending the roses, or go out for improving country walks. Take up oil painting, or wood carving, or frenetic hours of almost ritual masturbation if that makes you happy. I'll be at Bramall Lane, watching Sheffield United. It's like your wedding vows. For better, for worse. You don't get married and then boycott the wife when it turns out she really is as bad a cook as everyone said, do you?

So boycott all you want to. That will give you even more time on internet message boards to tell the rest of us how we should support our team.
 

This sort of thing Leonard....
 

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