Scougall

[Balham]

He seems to lack a bit of energy, compared to last season. However, his goal ratio remains good and he was pivotal in the excellent build up to our goal.

He is never, ever a captain though. One of very few Tufty decisions I would question. Guess he was feeling a bit Bladey that day?...

Either that or he knew that he'd be rebuilding the side from the bottom up and Sharp was the only player he was sure would survive the cull?

Side vs Scunthorpe (8/5/16)
Long; Baptiste, Edgar, McEveley; Coutts, Basham, Hammond, Woolford, Done, Sharp, Adams

4 players left from that: Coutts, Basham, Sharp and Done. None of them are proper captain material but Sharp is the best of a bad bunch.

 

[coaxingstar71]

It's not small sample size. Scougall has played over 50 games since the semi final.

And for the record I think Brayford was not giving his best effort.

How many as a sub and out of those how many for less than 20 mins?

Really? That's it, he wasn't trying hard enough - but I wonder why that would be? Incidentally, I don't disagree with you but there's got to be more to it than he's now a sh!t player which is basically the suggestion being offered on here for Scougall. Good players don't suddenly become bad players overnight or even over a year so something else must be going on, no?

Do we really know why Brayford has gone on loan? At the start of the season he was name checked by Wilder as one of those that understood the culture required and were part of it, so what happened in 4 games? Ok he didn't pull any trees up but then neither did the other 10 in those games. Is the fact that Freeman has come in and done well and Brayford has gone part of the reason we've started winning - well I guess we don't really know. Maybe it was the wages but if that was the case, why weren't we trying to offload in pre-season and at least got a fee?

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

I disagree personally I like scougall. I think he is a good player to have in the side I don't think he is a starter but I think he is a good sub. He adds energy into the side and with him running and hurrying the opposition when there tired towards the end of the match. He is skillful and can use both feet I admit he is a little light weight but he can score goals he went out on loan at fleetwood and scored a hat full of goals in a short period of time. He is a good option to have on the bench and think he will be a big part in the team this season he fits right in with wilders system. Would like to see him get a goal and then think he will find some form again.

Scougall scored once in ten games for Fleetwood!!

He's scored 4 in 58 games for us. Where do you get the idea he can score goals from?

He's poor. Lots of running around, with no end product, tactical awareness or technical ability.

 

[Revolution]

How many as a sub and out of those how many for less than 20 mins?

Really? That's it, he wasn't trying hard enough - but I wonder why that would be? Incidentally, I don't disagree with you but there's got to be more to it than he's now a sh!t player which is basically the suggestion being offered on here for Scougall. Good players don't suddenly become bad players overnight or even over a year so something else must be going on, no?

Do we really know why Brayford has gone on loan? At the start of the season he was name checked by Wilder as one of those that understood the culture required and were part of it, so what happened in 4 games? Ok he didn't pull any trees up but then neither did the other 10 in those games. Is the fact that Freeman has come in and done well and Brayford has gone part of the reason we've started winning - well I guess we don't really know. Maybe it was the wages but if that was the case, why weren't we trying to offload in pre-season and at least got a fee?

Do your own Scougall research.

You know, it is more likely that Scougall's true talent level is what we saw the last 2 years and not what we saw in 2014. Players have purple patches. Adrian Littlejohn scored goals in the first Premier League season, for example, and sank without trace thereafter.

Scougalls form might have been a small sample size fluke.

As for Brayford, we were keeping him because we had so few players. Then we got some in at last so could let him go as part of our cost cutting.

 

[Tyler Durden]

But at least Coutts has improved, Scougall has shown no sign of improvement.

Spent the last few seasons running around like a headless chicken, and still runs round like a headless chicken now.

Sorry I can't agree with a word of that. He has consistantly been one of the better performers since coming back into the fold. Always looking to put in that crucial pass and even have a go himself, and he came close to that on Saturday. He makes things happen or at least tries to. Last years central midfielders by comparison were nothing more than stuffed shirts.

And to be honest, for the first time in ages I don't think that anyone deserved to be singled out for criticism on Saturday.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Do your own Scougall research.

You know, it is more likely that Scougall's true talent level is what we saw the last 2 years and not what we saw in 2014. Players have purple patches. Adrian Littlejohn scored goals in the first Premier League season, for example, and sank without trace thereafter.

Scougalls form might have been a small sample size fluke.

Exactly - two years worth of tripe is more accurate than a handful of games (which were during our purple patch under Clough).

 

[Slim Man]

He definitely played 4-4-2 in the second half but Scougall sort of had a drifting free role at times, as did Duffy. They weren't pure wide men but were expected to track back which they did.

Like I said he's useful, I don't think we could get shut for a decent enough sum to sell him so let's keep him, utilize him and play to his strengths. It's important though if we have him, Done and Basham in the same line up we have your more composed heads like Sharp, Coutts, Duffy, Fleck to properly balance the side.

If he gets back to his 2014 form I'll be a bit more excited.

 

[coaxingstar71]

he's also far too small & lightweight for the division. One knock and he will be out again for weeks

Well thought out argument Jon P. Potentially, one knock and any player could be out for weeks. According to Revolution Scougall has played over 50 games for us since 2014 so he can't have been injured that much.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Sorry I can't agree with a word of that. He has consistantly been one of the better performers since coming back into the fold. Always looking to put in that crucial pass and even have a go himself, and he came close to that on Saturday. He makes things happen or at least tries to. Last years central midfielders by comparison were nothing more than stuffed shirts.

And to be honest, for the first time in ages I don't think that anyone deserved to be singled out for criticism on Saturday.

Looks to make the crucial pass that he isn't capable of making? And yes he came close to a goal on Saturday, but didnt score, something he has never done regularly

You don't think that Coutts has improved? Really?!

Scougall was one of those stuffed shirt midfielders for the past 2 seasons, nothings changed.

In the last 4 games he's started one (v Oxford, later win when he was off the pitch), played 4 minutes in one, 10 in another and 45 v Peterborough in which he wasted 4/5 chances to kill the game by way of poor finishing or final pass.

I could name you 11 players straight off the bat who have been better performers.

 

[coaxingstar71]

Do your own Scougall research.

You know, it is more likely that Scougall's true talent level is what we saw the last 2 years and not what we saw in 2014. Players have purple patches. Adrian Littlejohn scored goals in the first Premier League season, for example, and sank without trace thereafter.

Scougalls form might have been a small sample size fluke.

As for Brayford, we were keeping him because we had so few players. Then we got some in at last so could let him go as part of our cost cutting.

I don't need to - all I know is that every time I've seen him play, he gives 100% just like Matt Done and yet gets dogs abuse on here. On Saturday he came on and was lively and involved and was an improvement on Lafferty's first half performance.

I could believe that if Wilder hadn't been name checking him in the summer, I'm not convinced that's the whole story.

I used to live next door to Littlejohn! Tiny man with a teeny tiny wife (fit though - wife, not Aidy). Can't remember the circumstances of his whole Blades career but I suppose you have a valid point, I'm starting to think about Michael Lake now!

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

If he gets back to his 2014 form I'll be a bit more excited.

His 2014 is based on a handful of games during a purple patch for the team, a patch where he didn't score or create regularly. However his willingness to put the effort in was the thing we clinged onto because it was change to the first half of the season.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

I don't need to - all I know is that every time I've seen him play, he gives 100% just like Matt Done and yet gets dogs abuse on here. On Saturday he came on and was lively and involved and was an improvement on Lafferty's first half performance.

I could believe that if Wilder hadn't been name checking him in the summer, I'm not convinced that's the whole story.

I used to live next door to Littlejohn! Tiny man with a teeny tiny wife (fit though - wife, not Aidy). Can't remember the circumstances of his whole Blades career but I suppose you have a valid point, I'm starting to think about Michael Lake now!

Matt Done puts in 100%, gets goals, creates and controls a ball.
Stefan Scougall puts in 100%.

 

[Pinchy]

Anyone else remember the Littlejohn song? A classic if not entirely politically correct!...

 

[coaxingstar71]

Matt Done puts in 100%, gets goals, creates and controls a ball.
Stefan Scougall puts in 100%.

Might be an amusing comment but not true.

 

[bornablade]

With over 70 posts on the subject now is the time for Bergen Blade to enter the debate with highlights of the work Scougall does off the ball that goes unnoticed. (Sorry about using that last part - should be in the cliches I despise!)

 

[coaxingstar71]

Looks to make the crucial pass that he isn't capable of making? And yes he came close to a goal on Saturday, but didnt score, something he has never done regularly

You don't think that Coutts has improved? Really?!

Scougall was one of those stuffed shirt midfielders for the past 2 seasons, nothings changed.

In the last 4 games he's started one (v Oxford, later win when he was off the pitch), played 4 minutes in one, 10 in another and 45 v Peterborough in which he wasted 4/5 chances to kill the game by way of poor finishing or final pass.

I could name you 11 players straight off the bat who have been better performers.

Er... Scougall won the freekick for the winning goal v Oxford
Scougall scored at Millwall
I counted 2 chances he had on Saturday, one where he forced the keeper into a good save and admittedly one where he skied a first time shot. He also won a free kick on the corner of the box that Duffy forced the keeper to save and was involved in the build up to at least 2 other chances, so yeah terrible game.
We must be attending different games me old mate!

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Might be an amusing comment but not true.

It wasn't written with the intention of being comical or amusing.

There is no evidence to suggest Scougall can create goals or score them anywhere near regularly, all the evidence is to the contrary.

 

[coaxingstar71]

Anyone else remember the Littlejohn song? A classic if not entirely politically correct!...

Have a like for attempting some light entertainment!

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Er... Scougall won the freekick for the winning goal v Oxford
Scougall scored at Millwall
I counted 2 chances he had on Saturday, one where he forced the keeper into a good save and admittedly one where he skied a first time shot. He also won a free kick on the corner of the box that Duffy forced the keeper to save and was involved in the build up to at least 2 other chances, so yeah terrible game.
We must be attending different games me old mate!

Missed 2 chances to score, mis-controlled the ball in strong attacking positions twice, misplaced at least 3 passes when a goalscoring opportunity was possible.

 

[coaxingstar71]

It wasn't written with the intention of being comical or amusing.

There is no evidence to suggest Scougall can create goals or score them anywhere near regularly, all the evidence is to the contrary.

See post #76

 

[coaxingstar71]

Missed 2 chances to score, mis-controlled the ball in strong attacking positions twice, misplaced at least 3 passes when a goalscoring opportunity was possible.

Ah you must be one of the ones I was talking about earlier when he tried to thread a difficult ball for Duffy. All makes sense now.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

See post #76

Fair enough - differing opinions and all that. But mine is right...

And as long as the different games we see continue to be ones where we get 3 points then we're both happy.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Ah you must be one of the ones I was talking about earlier when he tried to thread a difficult ball for Duffy. All makes sense now.

Dont get what your getting at here...

 

[Pinchy]

It wasn't written with the intention of being comical or amusing.

There is no evidence to suggest Scougall can create goals or score them anywhere near regularly, all the evidence is to the contrary.

You think ball control is one of Matt Done's strong points? I don't.

Scoogs was impressive on Saturday. The balance of the game shifted in our favour when he came on.

I Scoogs.

 

[coaxingstar71]

Dont get what your getting at here...

Don't worry about it.

Like post #82 - I'll be more than happy if we see totally different games next week and we beat Scunny! I shouldn't admit this but I had the choice of going next week or going on a lads p!$$ up in Brum the week after and I chose............

 

[coaxingstar71]

You think ball control is one of Matt Done's strong points? I don't.

Scoogs was impressive on Saturday. The balance of the game shifted in our favour when he came on.

I Scoogs.

I Pinchy !

 

[Pinchy]

Don't worry about it.

Like post #82 - I'll be more than happy if we see totally different games next week and we beat Scunny! I shouldn't admit this but I had the choice of going next week or going on a lads p!$$ up in Brum the week after and I chose............

....to spend the evening with Ché Adams.

 

[BushBlade]

I know that.....but a bit more respect Bush.

Rooney has played Shit for England for a long time....he isn't a shit footballer.

Bit more respect for whom? I'm not the one calling posters moronic for using a common abreviation.

 

[coaxingstar71]

....to spend the evening with Ché Adams.

Damn! I thought no one would guess!

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

You think ball control is one of Matt Done's strong points? I don't.

Scoogs was impressive on Saturday. The balance of the game shifted in our favour when he came on.

I Scoogs.

I just dont think you can have someone in the team solely because they put effort in.

Basham was in danger of this but over the last few games he seems a bit more composed and confident on the ball. Im pretty sure he even completed more passes than not on saturday.