Saudi Arabia and the Prince

[Chali 2na]

In the discussion about the statement, I saw numerous posters mention Saudi Arabia's reputation for humans rights infringements and funding terrorism.

May I point out that, of the many legitimate concerns/questions about the possible change of ownership; this isn't one of them. It's completely unfair to judge a man on the actions of his nation, rather than his character.

Unless the Prince is personally responsible for funding terrorism or infringing on human rights (which I highly doubt) then the whole point is redundant.

 

[ElephantBlade]

In the discussion about the statement, I saw numerous posters mention Saudi Arabia's reputation for humans rights infringements and funding terrorism.

May I point out that, of the many legitimate concerns/questions about the possible change of ownership; this isn't one of them. It's completely unfair to judge a man on the actions of his nation, rather than his character.

Unless the Prince is personally responsible for funding terrorism or infringing on human rights (which I highly doubt) then the whole point is redundant.

Preach it Brother.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Additionally KSA is in a rapid position of change at the moment.

The new Crown prince is really pro change, the current youth generation love him. He's also making huge steps to eradicate corruption out there with numerous royalty under house arrest (albeit in a 5 star hotel).

 

[Torrix1889]

In the discussion about the statement, I saw numerous posters mention Saudi Arabia's reputation for humans rights infringements and funding terrorism.

May I point out that, of the many legitimate concerns/questions about the possible change of ownership; this isn't one of them. It's completely unfair to judge a man on the actions of his nation, rather than his character.

Unless the Prince is personally responsible for funding terrorism or infringing on human rights (which I highly doubt) then the whole point is redundant.

"The politics of Saudi Arabia takes place in the context of a totalitarian absolute monarchy with some Islamic lines, where the King is both the head of state and government. Decisions are, to a large extent, made on the basis of consultation among the senior princes of the royal family and the religious establishment"

 

[TJB.]

Let's not forget we've been 50% owned by the Prince for almost 5 years now.

One can only assume these outraged many have rightly boycotted exactly half of all games up to now because of this.

Looking back at some of the football, I wish I'd joined 'em.

 

[UnitedBlade]

Additionally KSA is in a rapid position of change at the moment.

The new Crown prince is really pro change, the current youth generation love him. He's also making huge steps to eradicate corruption out there with numerous royalty under house arrest (albeit in a 5 star hotel).

Most are released now but this report suggests they’ve clawed back $107bn! Certainly looks like they are getting to the heart of the corruption.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....9d4d5a-05cb-11e8-aa61-f3391373867e_story.html

Our Prince is pro conventional business and pro Youth and more opportunities for women so he’s unlikely to be anywhere near what the others at the heart of Government and business are up to.

 

[BladeInIreland]

They have there way of doing things, not great by our hypocritical standards but were in no position to dictate and discriminate against the prince just because he's a low ranking official of that country.
I'll go one further, id be happy if the king bought in.

 

[zablade]

As far as I can tell HRH is on the reforming wing of the Al Saud family which is, relatively, a good thing.

Also good from our point of view is that Currently the Leaders of the family are also moving in that direction, albeit at a snails pace.

What could be an issue down the line is if more conservative elements of the family backed by the clerics take the reformers down which could have repercussions for us if our Prince comes out on the wrong side of a civil war.

 

[UnitedBlade]

As far as I can tell HRH is on the reforming wing of the Al Saud family which is, relatively, a good thing.

Also good from our point of view is that Currently the Leaders of the family are also moving in that direction, albeit at a snails pace.

What could be an issue down the line is if more conservative elements of the family backed by the clerics take the reformers down which could have repercussions for us if our Prince comes out on the wrong side of a civil war.

Depends how much of his assets are still invested in Saudi. I’m guessing most is deployed abroad now. The paper business has been sold. It’d be easy for him to move permanently to California if it swings back to the clerics.

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

Our government doesn't have a problem selling them bombs that are killing kids in Yemen as we speak.

 

[Grizzly blade]

In the discussion about the statement, I saw numerous posters mention Saudi Arabia's reputation for humans rights infringements and funding terrorism.

May I point out that, of the many legitimate concerns/questions about the possible change of ownership; this isn't one of them. It's completely unfair to judge a man on the actions of his nation, rather than his character.

Unless the Prince is personally responsible for funding terrorism or infringing on human rights (which I highly doubt) then the whole point is redundant.

Totally agree.
Many businessman and certainly those with the huge wealth will have been a bit naughty at some point. On top of that, pretty much every nation has had its moment in the spotlight when it comes to human rights and funding terror.
Depending which side of the fence you sit on, it could be argued our very own government has funded terror on many levels such as supplying Isis with weapons, many other governments with warplanes including the Saudis, some dodgy shenanigans in northern Ireland, the colonies....we are hardly sweetness and light.

In fairness, there are one or two parts of Saudi Law we could look at being useful in putting right the problems in this country. Crime and punishment being one.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

As far as I can tell HRH is on the reforming wing of the Al Saud family which is, relatively, a good thing.

Also good from our point of view is that Currently the Leaders of the family are also moving in that direction, albeit at a snails pace.

What could be an issue down the line is if more conservative elements of the family backed by the clerics take the reformers down which could have repercussions for us if our Prince comes out on the wrong side of a civil war.

He's only buying 50% of The Blades.

 

[Houston_Blade]

In the discussion about the statement, I saw numerous posters mention Saudi Arabia's reputation for humans rights infringements and funding terrorism.

May I point out that, of the many legitimate concerns/questions about the possible change of ownership; this isn't one of them. It's completely unfair to judge a man on the actions of his nation, rather than his character.

Unless the Prince is personally responsible for funding terrorism or infringing on human rights (which I highly doubt) then the whole point is redundant.

They are currently imposing an illegal blockade on Qatar but I don’t think Abdullah is the ring leader. On the plus side all the Saudi’s have fucked off home so the roads and hotels are a lot quieter.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Additionally KSA is in a rapid position of change at the moment.

The new Crown prince is really pro change, the current youth generation love him. He's also making huge steps to eradicate corruption out there with numerous royalty under house arrest (albeit in a 5 star hotel).

The new crown prince is a fucking nutcase. He’s in bed with the Abu Dhabi main Sheikh and trying to squeeze the Qataris, quite funny at the moment as the Qataris have enough reserves to ride it out for a while and keep buying up property and stakes in companies as a two finger salute at Saudi and UAE. Neymar’s purchase was also done for political reasons rather than football.

I obviously see the other side of the news but the Saudi regime stinks from top to bottom. They were the big money men of old and doesn’t like that little old Qatar found oil a few years ago and now are richer than them.

 

[Kev Gee]

My thoughts exactly.

In the discussion about the statement, I saw numerous posters mention Saudi Arabia's reputation for humans rights infringements and funding terrorism.

May I point out that, of the many legitimate concerns/questions about the possible change of ownership; this isn't one of them. It's completely unfair to judge a man on the actions of his nation, rather than his character.

Unless the Prince is personally responsible for funding terrorism or infringing on human rights (which I highly doubt) then the whole point is redundant.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

The Big Prinz was born into an unelected Ruling Elite
He has been a serving member of the Saudi Government
That Ruling Elite & that Government are responsible for the appalling human rights record
... is what I'm hearing ...

 

[Blade for Sale]

In fairness, there are one or two parts of Saudi Law we could look at being useful in putting right the problems in this country. Crime and punishment being one.

Indeed. I can hardly wait for the first person to be publicly decapitated for insulting a figment of the imagination invented by illiterate bronze age peasants. And as for the singing and dancing, well don't get me fucking started.

 

[Chali 2na]

"The politics of Saudi Arabia takes place in the context of a totalitarian absolute monarchy with some Islamic lines, where the King is both the head of state and government. Decisions are, to a large extent, made on the basis of consultation among the senior princes of the royal family and the religious establishment"

What does this have to do with our co-owner? This is a Sheffield United forum after all

 

[Tunstall Fred]

I don't give a tinkers toss about Saudi Arabia and the human rights,as long as Princey buys us good footballers,doesn't sell our good footballers,doesn't move us from our home,he retains the services of the manager and keeps ticket prices at the McCabe levels.

Leave all the worrying to Shami and her friends

 

[PokerBlade]

Never ask about the family business.

 

[Smirth]

He’s a member of the royal family there which rule over the country, and there has been a lot of suggestion on here that he may look for further investment from within his family. I’d say that people who it doesn’t sit comfortably with, like myself, have plenty of reason to feel that way.

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

. And as for the singing and dancing, well don't get me fucking started.

Not unlike Sheffield pubs on a Satdy neet

 

[Tunstall Fred]

He’s a member of the royal family there which rule over the country, and there has been a lot of suggestion on here that he may look for further investment from within his family. I’d say that people who it doesn’t sit comfortably with, like myself, have plenty of reason to feel that way.

You going to stop going if he completes a takeover of Sheffield United?

 

[Eddiecolquhounsleg]

Our Prime Minister was in China only last week discussing trade deals with a regime with arguably as bad a human rights record as Saudi Arabia and no-one has batted an eyelid about that.

I don't think that the appointment of a minor Saudi Prince as sole owner of a football club in the second tier of English football will be debated in the United Nations anytime soon.

 

[Grizzly blade]

Our Prime Minister was in China only last week discussing trade deals with a regime with arguably as bad a human rights record as Saudi Arabia and no-one has batted an eyelid about that.

I don't think that the appointment of a minor Saudi Prince as sole owner of a football club in the second tier of English football will be debated in the United Nations anytime soon.

Exactly.
Hypocrites everywhere.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Exactly.
Hypocrites everywhere.

China good

Saudi bad

I am looking forward to a pre season tour of Saudi,be some new grounds for me.

 

[Boxer Blade]

And then there's north korea...... .....

 

[Torrix1889]

What does this have to do with our co-owner? This is a Sheffield United forum after all

Errrm...he is a Prince of Saudi Arabia........besides...you posted it in the first place.....

 

[Davalon]

It's clear to me that our best players will be sold to fund terrorism.

I just hope we don't send any suicide bombers down to the Sty and cause a few grand of improvements.

 

[BushBlade]

Our Prime Minister was in China only last week discussing trade deals with a regime with arguably as bad a human rights record as Saudi Arabia and no-one has batted an eyelid about that.

I don't think that the appointment of a minor Saudi Prince as sole owner of a football club in the second tier of English football will be debated in the United Nations anytime soon.

Not just a case of not batting eyelids but a few were wanking about it, whilst wanking over the other trade deals we'll be able to do once we're out of the EU with other dodgy regimes. It's a simple fact of life that many people ignore; if you're digging for gold you're gonna get your hands dirty.