Sander berge

[Mouth of the South]

Seems to be thriving when in more advanced positions and was unlucky not to score again.

It might be the cynic in me, but I do get the impression he's playing for a move. That's fair enough if he sees his future away from Utd - he shouldn't be playing in the Champ.

I still see Utd needing another (big, combative, ball-winning) central midfielder and as Warnock said, they're still a striker short (mind you he used to like to have about 10 on the books!) so I hope any proceeds given to PH are invested in those areas.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

He’s one of those players that no matter situation you’re not worried he will lose the ball.

Seems to come out of the tightest of situations carrying it

Unless it's in our own defensive half....

 

[nopigfansintown]

Class is permanent. Unfortunately so is idiocy. Many have been guilty of the latter re Berge. When he's been fit, he's been class in the vast majority of games.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Proper footballer, does what all quality players do. Coutts had it, so did TC, they seem to have an additional few seconds, just enough time to make a good decision. Whether he's here for a few months or longer, he makes watching this team a real pleasure. A pity we don't have the resources to keep him, but SB is finally showing why Wilder wanted him.

Let's enjoy Sander for as long as he's a Blade, and good luck to the fella if he decides his career is meant to take him elsewhere.

 

[JJBlade]

I think tonight will finally shut up those idiots who think he's a deep playing midfielder.

Don't bet on it
Only Sheffield United can sign a player for 22 MILLION FUCKING QUID and then play him completely out of position for two and a half years.

I'm pretty sure we still are to be honest, it's just that Berge has thought fuck this, I'm not listening to these morons anymore, I'm just going to do what I did before I got here

 

[Charlieblade]

Seems to be thriving when in more advanced positions and was unlucky not to score again.

It might be the cynic in me, but I do get the impression he's playing for a move. That's fair enough if he sees his future away from Utd - he shouldn't be playing in the Champ.

I still see Utd needing another (big, combative, ball-winning) central midfielder and as Warnock said, they're still a striker short (mind you he used to like to have about 10 on the books!) so I hope any proceeds given to PH are invested in those areas.

Not having a dig at you, but there is always enthusiastic talk about strikers. Those we have, and those we might want.
TBF our goals are starting to flow from positions other than striker. Not a bad thing at all for the blades.

 

[alcoblade]

Don't bet on it
Only Sheffield United can sign a player for 22 MILLION FUCKING QUID and then play him completely out of position for two and a half years.

I'm pretty sure we still are to be honest, it's just that Berge has thought fuck this, I'm not listening to these morons anymore, I'm just going to do what I did before I got here

You were put back in your box with this a while ago. That was the position he'd previously excelled in, yet failed at with us, despite your desperation to re write history.

It was not stupidity on our behalf, despite your insistence of hating everything about the club, its' fans and the people of Sheffield.

When Liverpool were linked with him, this was the position being talked about;

 

[JJBlade]

You were put back in your box with this a while ago. That was the position he'd precisely excelled in, yet failed at with us, despite your desperation to re write history.

It was not stupidity on our behalf, despite your insistence of hating everything about the club, its' fans and the people of Sheffield.

Whatever,
Everybody that ever saw anything of him, saw a midfielder that glided past challenges and spent more time in the oppositions penalty area than his own

He suffered from backward Sheffield mentality, big lad, hoofer, stick him back here where he can win t'headers and where he can't ruin owt.

 

[alcoblade]

Whatever,
Everybody that ever saw anything of him, saw a midfielder that glided past challenges and spent more time in the oppositions penalty area than his own

He suffered from backward Sheffield mentality, big lad, hoofer, stick him back here where he can win t'headers and where he can't ruin owt.

So it's you, and not the football club you "support", who were completely wrong then.

""Whatever".

 

[Balham]

You were put back in your box with this a while ago. That was the position he'd previously excelled in, yet failed at with us, despite your desperation to re write history.

It was not stupidity on our behalf, despite your insistence of hating everything about the club, its' fans and the people of Sheffield.

When Liverpool were linked with him, this was the position being talked about;

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That would have made sense as Henderson and Wijnaldum are both capable of doing the box-to-box roles. He'd struggle in a two with either of them but as part of a three it would probably have worked.

 

[alcoblade]

That would have made sense as Henderson and Wijnaldum are both capable of doing the box-to-box roles. He'd struggle in a two with either of them but as part of a three it would probably have worked.

I've no strong opinion, only that he's clearly been far more effective for us when he's further up the pitch.

The point I'm addressing was that this poster is outraged that we've payed him out of position since he arrived through incompetence, when apparently all evidence out their suggested otherwise.

He's just simply wrong, but cannot help inventing new ways to hate the cub and its' supporters.

 

[Mouth of the South]

Not having a dig at you, but there is always enthusiastic talk about strikers. Those we have, and those we might want.
TBF our goals are starting to flow from positions other than striker. Not a bad thing at all for the blades.

A fair point Charlie and I agree it's good that more goals are indeed coming from other areas - something that's been lacking in the last few years (with the exception of Lundstram's purple patch). The only problem is the lack of goals from the strikers. Ndiaya should get 10-15 this season but he's not what I'd class as a natural goalscorer. Sharp remains the only one on the books. Brewster may yet come good (although that's probably based more of hope than expectation) and McBurnie firstly has a job to force his way back into the side. Neither Jebbison nor Osula have shown enough yet to be considered a solution in the short-medium term.

I just feel Utd could do with another player you could rely on to get 15-20 goals. A 30 year old Sharp would have been ideal but if Berge goes, would using some of the proceeds on someone like Armstrong improve the side? IMHO it would. That said, it would be a massive vote of no confidence in the current strikers but how long do you continue to underperform in scoring goals?

 

[Charlieblade]

You could well be right, but as PH has an empty war chest, I prefer to remain positive about the mix of strikers we do have. I hope one or two of them can come good and lift the goal tally. That’s their job after all.
Having no money but still scoring goals and winning is something we have to get used to.

We currently have 5 out and out strikers at the club who all have goals in them, and different levels of experience in the Championship.

Given the club finances, and our current decent form, we don’t have much option really? Not perfect, but I’m optimistic as always.

 

[JJBlade]

So it's you, and not the football club you "support", who were completely wrong then.

""Whatever".

You're probably living up to your username because I don't understand any of that

He has never been a defensive midfielder in his life.

He can't tackle
He can't mark
He can't dictate play from deep

He does absolutely nothing well that a defensive midfielder should do.

He does do well when he's pushed further forward

And I don't give a shit what he supposedly said

If he could only get a game in goal, I'm sure he'd have said "I prefer to play in goal"

 

[Tom Bott]

TBF our goals are starting to flow from positions other than striker. Not a bad thing at all for the blades.

The season we went up under Neil Warnock we had some 13 different players scoring goals.

 

[Proper Blade]

Don't bet on it
Only Sheffield United can sign a player for 22 MILLION FUCKING QUID and then play him completely out of position for two and a half years.

I'm pretty sure we still are to be honest, it's just that Berge has thought fuck this, I'm not listening to these morons anymore, I'm just going to do what I did before I got here

Berge used to play as a defensive midfielder, kinda like the Norwood role now.

When Wilder signed him he specifically told him he wanted him to play more advanced and make an impact further up the pitch because of his ability to go past players (search it, I imagine it's all online)

He has never played as a defensive midfielder for us.

EDIT: Here ya go, I found some of his quotes for you.

 

[Proper Blade]

You're probably living up to your username because I don't understand any of that

He has never been a defensive midfielder in his life.

He can't tackle
He can't mark
He can't dictate play from deep

He does absolutely nothing well that a defensive midfielder should do.

He does do well when he's pushed further forward

And I don't give a shit what he supposedly said

If he could only get a game in goal, I'm sure he'd have said "I prefer to play in goal"

So despite the fact he used to play in defensive midfield, and said he used to play in defensive midfield, and was widely described as a defensive midfielder, you maintain he's not a defensive midfielder?

I love the internet. I really do.

 

[Frank the tank]

The reported fee for Maupay was £20m; same as what we paid for McBurnie

We paid 17 m for mcburnie

 

[CaptainMorgans]

We paid 17 m for mcburnie

Could be wrong, but I think it was an initial £17m with add-ons which could take it to £20m.

Without knowing what those add-ons were it's hard to say what the final figure was.
I would guess that one would have been based on our survival and him playing a certain number of minutes... but let's hope they were goal related instead!

 

[alcoblade]

You're probably living up to your username because I don't understand any of that

He has never been a defensive midfielder in his life.

He can't tackle
He can't mark
He can't dictate play from deep

He does absolutely nothing well that a defensive midfielder should do.

He does do well when he's pushed further forward

And I don't give a shit what he supposedly said

If he could only get a game in goal, I'm sure he'd have said "I prefer to play in goal"

You agreed with and backed the point that he’s not a deep lying midfielder, adding we’ve only got to look at what had gone before - when he clearly has been previously.

You don’t understand any of it, because you’re fucking clueless.

 

[alcoblade]

So despite the fact he used to play in defensive midfield, and said he used to play in defensive midfield, and was widely described as a defensive midfielder, you maintain he's not a defensive midfielder?

I love the internet. I really do.

The problem with the internet is that it gives people who are absolute clowns in real life a pedestal they don’t deserve.

 

[JJBlade]

You agreed with and backed the point that he’s not a deep lying midfielder, adding we’ve only got to look at what had gone before - when he clearly has been previously.

You don’t understand any of it, because you’re fucking clueless.

Think you've got mixed up somewhere

I've never backed the point that he's a defensive midfielder.
Deep lying midfielder it is fair enough to call him, he can sit deeper, but it isn't the same thing as what everyone is calling him, ie defensive midfielder

Bryan Robson and Paul Scholes were what I consider deep lying midfielders, but they did their job in the opponents penalty area.

He did this with Genk before us, and it's only now that we have given him this role that he is starting to show what he can do

 

[JJBlade]

So despite the fact he used to play in defensive midfield, and said he used to play in defensive midfield, and was widely described as a defensive midfielder, you maintain he's not a defensive midfielder?

I love the internet. I really do.

As I've said above he is not and never has been a defensive midfielder

How the fuck can someone who can't tackle, can't track back, can't mark and can't orchestrate play be a defensive midfielder

He might be a deeper lying midfielder with licence to get forward, but that isn't a defensive midfielder

 

[Carlton Blade]

Think you've got mixed up somewhere

I've never backed the point that he's a defensive midfielder.
Deep lying midfielder it is fair enough to call him, he can sit deeper, but it isn't the same thing as what everyone is calling him, ie defensive midfielder

Bryan Robson and Paul Scholes were what I consider deep lying midfielders, but they did their job in the opponents penalty area.

He did this with Genk before us, and it's only now that we have given him this role that he is starting to show what he can do

He's not playing the same role here as he was at Genk

 

[JJBlade]

He's not playing the same role here as he was at Genk

I know

 

[Carlton Blade]

I know

The things he's doing for United now are completely different to what he was doing for Genk. He was asked to play as a DM/DLP but couldn't influence the game for United either going forward where he is too passive or defensively where he looks confused and slow.

However, he very much succeeded at that role and was able to defend competently for Genk

 

[knowsnowt]

For me he's a player who kicks the ball really well. I love seeing that.

 

[alcoblade]

The things he's doing for United now are completely different to what he was doing for Genk. He was asked to play as a DM/DLP but couldn't influence the game for United either going forward where he is too passive or defensively where he looks confused and slow.

However, he very much succeeded at that role and was able to defend competently for Genk

You can keep knocking on the door mate, but sadly there’s nobody in.

 

[JJBlade]

The things he's doing for United now are completely different to what he was doing for Genk. He was asked to play as a DM/DLP but couldn't influence the game for United either going forward where he is too passive or defensively where he looks confused and slow.

However, he very much succeeded at that role and was able to defend competently for Genk

Exactly what I've said, he's not a defensive midfielder

 

[Snowflake]

Don't bet on it
Only Sheffield United can sign a player for 22 MILLION FUCKING QUID and then play him completely out of position for two and a half years.

I'm pretty sure we still are to be honest, it's just that Berge has thought fuck this, I'm not listening to these morons anymore, I'm just going to do what I did before I got here

He is a right sided midfielder, so which bit of “completely out of position “ are we playing him ?