Incoming? Sam Gallagher

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spongebobblade said:
As Wilder has acknowledged, we ARE upping our wage structure (as demonstrated by the likes of O’Connell having TWO new contracts since promotion) but this has to be done gradually to keep squad harmony. Having a player come in and being the best paid wouldn’t be a problem. Having him on 10k more than anyone else would. Remember we were a long standing league one club only 16 months ago
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That was last seasons policy, and it was widely cheered.

But we lost 2 games on the bounce since then.

Keep up.

:)
 

alcoblade said:
Yeah, just pay, whatever.

How much money does he want by the way Ricky ?
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We need a striker with pace, not a big lump. With Norwood hopefully joining, Couttseh back soon and Woodburn there will be plenty of incisive through balls. We just need someone with the legs to get on the end of them.
 
alcoblade said:
Yeah, just pay, whatever.

How much money does he want by the way Ricky ?
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He's said to be on between 18-22k p/w. We should be able to get close to that. Or if not, pay a bigger loan fee.


spongebobblade said:
As Wilder has acknowledged, we ARE upping our wage structure (as demonstrated by the likes of O’Connell having TWO new contracts since promotion) but this has to be done gradually to keep squad harmony. Having a player come in and being the best paid wouldn’t be a problem. Having him on 10k more than anyone else would. Remember we were a long standing league one club only 16 months ago
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He wouldn't be on 10k more than anybody else.

Surely the current players would rather see good players coming in. Whether they earn more is secondary. Good players = results = bonuses.

If we don't want to pay higher wages we should stop wasting time pursuing such players.

The Brooks money should have gone towards increasing the wage ceiling/wage bill. It's an inevitability anyway if we want to compete, and we had the opportunity to start the process this summer.
 
Rodley said:
We need a striker with pace, not a big lump. With Norwood hopefully joining, Couttseh back soon and Woodburn there will be plenty of incisive through balls. We just need someone with the legs to get on the end of them.
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You'd be happy with just an ageing, out of form Clarke as our only big man then?

Someone like Joao could kill two birds with one stone, but really we could do with two strikers - a big one and a quick one. We were after Gallagher and Hogan.

But now, due to not signing Norwood or a LWB permanently before the deadline and the 5 loan limit, we appear limited to bringing in one striker. Which isn't great.

If it's one, I think it should be a Gallagher type.

We have Woodburn to provide the pace and dribbling ability, and would have pace out wide with Johnson if we get him.
 
Ricky said:
You'd be happy with just an ageing, out of form Clarke as our only big man then?

Someone like Joao could kill two birds with one stone, but really we could do with two strikers - a big one and a quick one. We were after Gallagher and Hogan.

But now, due to not signing Norwood or a LWB permanently before the deadline and the 5 loan limit, we appear limited to bringing in one striker. Which isn't great.

If it's one, I think it should be a Gallagher type.

We have Woodburn to provide the pace and dribbling ability, and would have pace out wide with Johnson if we get him.
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I’d rather get Hemed from Brighton than Gallagher. But think we must prioritise pace.
 
Agree Cerebus, buy or nothing. He's been on loan for 2 seasons now in divisions below the premier league and hasn't pulled up any trees so it's unlikely hes going to get a game in the Premiership. They are probably sick of loaning him out and want to get shut.
 
So they ain't gonna sell him this window regardless now, unless it's a loan-to-sell deal like we have with Norwood ?
 
The more times goes by, the more I'm really not sure about Gallagher.
 
They're fucking him about big time.

But on the wage they so generously put him on, he probably doesn't give too much of a shit.
 
This whole Gallagher business is becoming, quite frankly, fucking tedious.

And I am not remotely convinced that he is worth investing any more time or patience in.

Just take a punt on a league 1 or 2 player for fucks sake to compliment the 3 proven goalscorers we already have. Surely that's better than missing out altogether and having to wait until January?
 
Ricky said:
They're fucking him about big time.

But on the wage they so generously put him on, he probably doesn't give too much of a shit.
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Why are they messing him around? He's their player and they know if they loan him out for the third season on the trot they will end up paying a big chunk of his wages so from their point of view they may as well keep him, unless they can sell him.

The problem seems to be that we are after strikers outside of either our purchasing power and/or wage structure. We need to aim at more realistic targets and quickly
 

FriethBlade said:
Why are they messing him around? He's their player and they know if they loan him out for the third season on the trot they will end up paying a big chunk of his wages so from their point of view they may as well keep him, unless they can sell him.

The problem seems to be that we are after strikers outside of either our purchasing power and/or wage structure. We need to aim at more realistic targets and quickly
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Because they're restricting his opportunities to play football and develop. It'll inevitably go down to the deadline with him and it's all so stupid and unnecessary.

He's not going to play there, they know that, he knows that. They're just keeping him in limbo. He's a spare part and no sort of priority.

Had they not put him on the stupid contract, it would've been much easier for all concerned.
 
Ricky said:
Because they're restricting his opportunities to play football and develop. It'll inevitably go down to the deadline with him and it's all so stupid and unnecessary.

He's not going to play there, they know that, he knows that. They're just keeping him in limbo. He's a spare part and no sort of priority.

Had they not put him on the stupid contract, it would've been much easier for all concerned.
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He's not the type of player we need.
 
Ricky said:
Because they're restricting his opportunities to play football and develop. It'll inevitably go down to the deadline with him and it's all so stupid and unnecessary.

He's not going to play there, they know that, he knows that. They're just keeping him in limbo. He's a spare part and no sort of priority.

Had they not put him on the stupid contract, it would've been much easier for all concerned.
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It wouldn't have been easier for Gallagher, he'd be earning less...would it be easier for you if you were earning less ?
 
FriethBlade said:
It wouldn't have been easier for Gallagher, he'd be earning less...would it be easier for you if you were earning less ?
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Gallagher will be richer but his development's suffered and his future is far more uncertain and complicated than it needs to be.
 
FriethBlade said:
It wouldn't have been easier for Gallagher, he'd be earning less...would it be easier for you if you were earning less ?
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I tell you how it works though mate, and as a manager in the past I've had to do summat similar...

You want to sign a guy who is on more money than the rest of your folks - and you know that might cause a problem. So what you do is put him on a similar, or just slightly higher wage than the rest of your folks, but give him a one-off signing on fee, or annual bonus, to make up the difference. That way it doesn't break the wage structure of the club, and everyone stays happy.

Another consideration, and this is something I frequently have to consider myself, being self-employed, is whether to stick out for a high wage and short-term contract, or a lesser wage and a longer term contract. 2 years ago I was earning about 30% more on a daily basis, than I am now. But the contract was only short-term. 6 months ago I started a new contract on less money, but it's a longer term one. Sometimes this is a difficult choice because it's a case of, do you want to stick out for big money but know that it's only guaranteed for a relatively short period, or would you rather take less but know it's guaranteed for much longer?

I think there's a lot of financial manoeuvring that can be done in these situations. The main thing is, does the player actually want to come here? If he thinks it's best for his career then the answer could be yes.
 
Didn’t get on their bench yesterday so hardly pushing for a start there is he. If he’s on of these modern footballers who is happy sat in the reserves earning good money but not playing competitive football then we don’t want him anyway. If he isn’t then sometimes you have to take less in the hope it leads to better things and you might end up better off in the long run. Either way he’s hardly likely to be on the bloody breadline
 
According to Nixon (so this could be utter tripe again) he’s going nowhere until January and then after that it will be a permanent transfer only. Stoke head the list. Time to move on if this is remotely true
 
SteveBlade said:
No we can't afford Gallagher or no to suggest the statement that we can't afford Gallagher is incorrect?

ScOtT HoGaN it is.
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If fit I'd prefer Hogan anyway but his injury record is worrying.
 
Booker4 said:
If fit I'd prefer Hogan anyway but his injury record is worrying.
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His injury record is very worrying.
The fact he's not played 1min yet in pre-season or league says everything.
He's either still injured or Bruce does not want to play him because he knows he is made of glass, and he's hopping some mugs come and take him of their hands.
Stay well away we haven't got the money to be able to take the risk.
 

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