CONFIRMED Ryan One

[Balham]

It's some feat for Oné to convince an experienced manager with exacting standards around workrate and application that he was worthy of a start over a vastly experienced international forward signed for a six-figure fee and who had a point to prove. I wasn't at the Lane on Saturday but I'm encouraged by most of what I've read on here. It should also be noted that his goal against Bristol City wasn't easy, he showed good anticipation and desire to finish that one and that bodes well for the future.

As raul says though, we shouldn't really be in the position where we are asking an 18 year old whose main first team experience is in the Scottish lower divisions to lead the line for us. There's an element of misfortune with our other three senior forwards in various stages of disrepair.

Would love him to become a top player for us but sadly he shows no signs of being one even at 18. When you have been fortunate enough as I have to have seen Mick Jones, BIrchenall, Badger and Woodward, Walker, Mcguire and others come through as 18yr olds then you don't get to carried away with a lad that looks out of his depth.

I must be too young to remember McGuire. Where did he end up?

 

[Yogi]

He’s nowhere near as fast or explosive as Osula and lacks even that more languid speed that Jebbo had. All three are completely different from each other stylistically and shouldn’t really be compared.

One will likely fill out into a very imposing athlete but If One makes a career in the men’s games it’ll likely be as a target man type player which means he’s unlikely to ever be prolific and also probably means he’ll be a late developer. That’s not to say he can’t develop into a very good and useful player. The next big step in his development will be improving his hold up play and his ability to contribute consistently without the ball in terms of triggering the press and harassing opposition defences. If he can do that it should mean he can at least be a useful contributor to a side as a secondary option or coming on to see games out whilst he acquires the experience necessary to be a real danger.

Because he’s unlikely to trouble CB’s for pace and he’ll be penalised for throwing his weight around too much he’s going to have learn how to be a savvy operator and leverage his physical advantages in such a way so as to not draw the referees attention. That’s normally why target men type strikers don’t really hit their stride until their mid to late 20’s because experienced CB’s eat them alive until they’ve learned the tricks of the trade through trial and error.

 

[LurkerBladeS2]

90% of the time you can tell at 18/19 if they're going to become a top player or not. We all saw Jagielka, Walker, Brooks etc at a young age and it was obvious they would make it. I don't see that in One, Osula or Jebbison. All very average players to my eye.

£16.5m for them two, not bad going

 

[Bladesthorpe]

I agree with most of your comments but these young lads will need to learn that criticism in the public forum arena is never far away .I am sure they get many a bollocking behind closed doors and that they are nurtured in dealing with and being prepared for public criticism, as much as they are for adulation. These young prospects aren't under 10's they are on a tread mill to men's professional football and have passed many gruelling age groups to get this far.
You step into the arena then you take what they throw at you if you cant deal with it then you aren't going to be strong enough to make a career at the highest level.
Yes its harsh its cruel but its the real world we live in. More today than ever before, people can (and are entitled to) express their opinion to the masses.

Post of the day, sadly hundreds of young hopefuls get released from their academies at the end of their contracts leaving them and their families heartbroken.
It's a cruel game, I had two grandsons who were at two local league clubs and when it came to the big day they were told thanks but no thanks. Within days they were replaced with lads who had been released by the likes of Man city or Arsenal (Peck) .
No love given in the world of pro football.

 

[HarryHaslam]

I agree with most of your comments but these young lads will need to learn that criticism in the public forum arena is never far away .I am sure they get many a bollocking behind closed doors and that they are nurtured in dealing with and being prepared for public criticism, as much as they are for adulation. These young prospects aren't under 10's they are on a tread mill to men's professional football and have passed many gruelling age groups to get this far.
You step into the arena then you take what they throw at you if you cant deal with it then you aren't going to be strong enough to make a career at the highest level.
Yes its harsh its cruel but its the real world we live in. More today than ever before, people can (and are entitled to) express their opinion to the masses.

Mate criticism is not going to make or break their career but it can affect games short term depending how he takes it and how mature he is. No matter what age ask any footballer and they will tell you confidence is massive in their game, multiply that when it comes to youngsters as low confidence can really affect them in the short term especially a 18 year old kid who’s just started his first game. You seem to think it’s fine to criticise him as harshly as he has been on here at this young age fair enough, I don’t and I’ll back him all the way because if it turns out he doesn’t make the grade it will be Wilder who makes that decision not someone on a forum telling him to fuck off to the conference.

 

[Bladesthorpe]

Mate criticism is not going to make or break their career but it can affect games short term depending how he takes it and how mature he is. No matter what age ask any footballer and they will tell you confidence is massive in their game, multiply that when it comes to youngsters as low confidence can really affect them in the short term especially a 18 year old kid who’s just started his first game. You seem to think it’s fine to criticise him as harshly as he has been on here at this young age fair enough, I don’t and I’ll back him all the way because if it turns out he doesn’t make the grade it will be Wilder who makes that decision not someone on a forum telling him to fuck off to the conference.

I don't think I ever told him to fuck off, get your facts right. I might have come across as harsh but I still think he needs to go to a lower league team and see what Wilder thinks in the future.

 

[HarryHaslam]

I don't think I ever told him to fuck off, get your facts right. I might have come across as harsh but I still think he needs to go to a lower league team and see what Wilder thinks in the future.

You basically said it in a different way, you want him gone, and to his level which is the conference.

But now all of a sudden you’re making out you just want him out on loan to lower league and then see what Wilder thinks in the future? Your funny… See if that’s what you really think (it isn’t) you could have just written that in the first place instead of being a prick

 

[mancunianblade]

Didn’t Wilder say him and Marsh were going to be loaned out in Jan? Or have I made that up?

 

[dc_blade]

90% of the time you can tell at 18/19 if they're going to become a top player or not. We all saw Jagielka, Walker, Brooks etc at a young age and it was obvious they would make it. I don't see that in One, Osula or Jebbison. All very average players to my eye.

If you can tell how good an 18 year old is going to be after watching him for less than 180 minutes of senior football then I seriously hope you're a professional scout.

 

[Bladesthorpe]

Prick, Moron because you have a different view, backed up by Andy 67 the Leeds font of football knowledge.

 

[HarryHaslam]

Prick, Moron because you have a different view, backed up by Andy 67 the Leeds font of football knowledge.

Well that’s how you come across, I’m sure this criticism I’ve directed at you has not affected you? You certainly seem like a MAN UP!! type of bloke.. So man up the criticism will make you stronger

Not a clue what Andy 67 has said

 

[Bladesthorpe]

Well that’s how you come across, I’m sure this criticism I’ve directed at you has not affected you? You certainly seem like a MAN UP!! type of bloke.. So man up the criticism will make you stronger

Not a clue what Andy 67 has said

Neither has he.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

Would love him to become a top player for us but sadly he shows no signs of being one even at 18. When you have been fortunate enough as I have to have seen Mick Jones, BIrchenall, Badger and Woodward, Walker, Mcguire and others come through as 18yr olds then you don't get to carried away with a lad that looks out of his depth.

He had a much better start than McAtee did at Luton.
Mcguire? Do you mean the guy some called Lead Boots?

 

[S64 Blade]

Didn’t Wilder say him and Marsh were going to be loaned out in Jan? Or have I made that up?

Seem to recall he said this too. Definitely remember Marsh being mentioned.

 

[Snake]

He had a much better start than McAtee did at Luton.
Mcguire? Do you mean the guy some called Lead Boots?

Who is this Mcguire yous are talking about?

For a better comparison, remember a lad called Dominic Calvert-Lewin? Running around like Bambi on ice at 19 trying to win a place in the team languishing in League 1 no mans land.

Yes Oné is raw and has a lot to learn, but he's already showing the attributes to build on. He's not ready yet, but let's just thank god that McCabe isn't here to give him away to one of the big hitters to develop.

 

[Snake]

90% of the time you can tell at 18/19 if they're going to become a top player or not. We all saw Jagielka, Walker, Brooks etc at a young age and it was obvious they would make it. I don't see that in One, Osula or Jebbison. All very average players to my eye.

Off the top of my head ..... Jamie Vardy, Ivan Toney, Ian Wright.

Tbh I didn't really see it in early Jags. I thought he was the weaker of Tonge and Monty. How wrong I was, within a season or 2 he was head and shoulders above.

 

[dingledog]

Who is this Mcguire yous are talking about?

For a better comparison, remember a lad called Dominic Calvert-Lewin? Running around like Bambi on ice at 19 trying to win a place in the team languishing in League 1 no mans land.

Yes Oné is raw and has a lot to learn, but he's already showing the attributes to build on. He's not ready yet, but let's just thank god that McCabe isn't here to give him away to one of the big hitters to develop.

Spot on, I felt he was a 'lost Soul' for parts of the game on Saturday, struggling to keep up with what was happening. He's a young lad, learning the game and can only do that by playing in the first team, making mistakes, seeing the game pass him by, but never the less learning.

 

[Lane Ender]

Hope he does, takes off to his level. Conference.

Are you a Blade ??

 

[Danetheblade]

He’s nowhere near as fast or explosive as Osula and lacks even that more languid speed that Jebbo had. All three are completely different from each other stylistically and shouldn’t really be compared.

One will likely fill out into a very imposing athlete but If One makes a career in the men’s games it’ll likely be as a target man type player which means he’s unlikely to ever be prolific and also probably means he’ll be a late developer. That’s not to say he can’t develop into a very good and useful player. The next big step in his development will be improving his hold up play and his ability to contribute consistently without the ball in terms of triggering the press and harassing opposition defences. If he can do that it should mean he can at least be a useful contributor to a side as a secondary option or coming on to see games out whilst he acquires the experience necessary to be a real danger.

Because he’s unlikely to trouble CB’s for pace and he’ll be penalised for throwing his weight around too much he’s going to have learn how to be a savvy operator and leverage his physical advantages in such a way so as to not draw the referees attention. That’s normally why target men type strikers don’t really hit their stride until their mid to late 20’s because experienced CB’s eat them alive until they’ve learned the tricks of the trade through trial and error.

I’m not sure I agree with the pace comment.

He’s got explosive pace imo, out of Osula and Jebbo, I’d say he’s probably in the middle. He's imposing and has good strength for his age, and I think he’s a very very good prospect imo, his goal against Bristol were harder than it looked, showed great composure to steer the ball into the net.

Not sure if they can coach a different running style which might help his pace develop, but he looked rapid against Plymouth when he got going.

 

[Yogi]

I’m not sure I agree with the pace comment.

He’s got explosive pace imo, out of Osula and Jebbo, I’d say he’s probably in the middle. He's imposing and has good strength for his age, and I think he’s a very very good prospect imo, his goal against Bristol were harder than it looked, showed great composure to steer the ball into the net.

Not sure if they can coach a different running style which might help his pace develop, but he looked rapid against Plymouth when he got going.

I think he’s a great prospect and I’m chuffed we’ve got him I just don’t expect him to be a major contributor in terms of goals for some years yet really. Not many strikers do make impacts as teenagers even fewer do with the athletic profile that One has. Andy Carroll probably is the last target man I can think of who was really dominant as a young player. Others even the really good ones like Ricky Lambert seem to be late bloomers.

 

[Danetheblade]

I think he’s a great prospect and I’m chuffed we’ve got him I just don’t expect him to be a major contributor in terms of goals for some years yet really. Not many strikers do make impacts as teenagers even fewer do with the athletic profile that One has. Andy Carroll probably is the last target man I can think of who was really dominant as a young player. Others even the really good ones like Ricky Lambert seem to be late bloomers.

Fully agree there. I don’t think or expect him to be in the first team for a few years, though the experience he’ll be getting this season will be a massive boost for his trajectory, I’d like to see him out on loan in league two, getting first team football most weeks will be vital for his development, though I think it’s a case of needs must as things stand.

 

[joe casey]

I think he’s a great prospect and I’m chuffed we’ve got him I just don’t expect him to be a major contributor in terms of goals for some years yet really. Not many strikers do make impacts as teenagers even fewer do with the athletic profile that One has. Andy Carroll probably is the last target man I can think of who was really dominant as a young player. Others even the really good ones like Ricky Lambert seem to be late bloomers.

Only recent one I can think of is Evan Ferguson and even he is going through a barren run at the minute - having been touted for the top clubs only a year or two ago. Look at Ivan Toney - he was banging them in in League Two at 18/19 (who's to say One wouldn't?) but it wasn't until he was mid 20's that he got his chance in the Champ and then Prem.

If they're good enough to be leading the line (and scoring) at 18 then you're looking at a Wayne Rooney level of player - One is doing just fine for his age

 

[diplomat]

He had a much better start than McAtee did at Luton.
Mcguire? Do you mean the guy some called Lead Boots?

I remember some threads saying we should take whatever we could get (I think less than the £2m we ended up getting) because he could easily be replaced by some third division journeyman lump.

 

[FriethBlade]

Off the top of my head ..... Jamie Vardy, Ivan Toney, Ian Wright.

Tbh I didn't really see it in early Jags. I thought he was the weaker of Tonge and Monty. How wrong I was, within a season or 2 he was head and shoulders above.

Agree re early Jags , I remember him playing against Forest away in midfield( may have been his debut) and thinking he won't make it !

You live and learn. I was at Cardiff for Blasters full debut and he was taken off at half time....then look how quickly he developed. Its difficult to imagine how daunting your first few games in pro football at age 18 must be and One has made a good start so far

 

[Old Programme seller]

I know that defenders hate a pacy striker but Billy wasn’t fast also you look at Shearer you could even add Kane in there it’s the the mental speed, skill and some strikers are just luckier than others

 

[Groucho Blade]

Agree re early Jags , I remember him playing against Forest away in midfield( may have been his debut) and thinking he won't make it !

We played him in midfield and at full back for far too long tbh…if he’d played at centre back alongside Morgs for the whole season in the Warnock PL season, no way we’d have been relegated.

 

[sheff_blade90]

im hoping Ryan Onè can get a move on loan before the end of today. as he could blossom with some regular mens football

 

[Gimli]

im hoping Ryan Onè can get a move on loan before the end of today. as he could blossom with some regular mens football

Oné to go out on loané

 

[NAnstonblade]

I'd rather he stayed with us for the moment - let's keep all options open during this crucial point of the season.

 

[BangorBlade]

Hope he stays, might need fresh young legs