Robinson

[thehet]

Had Robinson dropped that clanger with Mayenda missing, would we just forget about it and move on?

Sometimes you get punished for mistakes: Robinson did, Souttar got bailed out after making the game much more difficult for us.

Souttar got punished for his mistake, he got sent off.
JLT's punishment was we went 1-0 down.

I don't recall any mistakes of Souttar's that resulted directly in a goal (not saying there isn't one) but I can remember several of Mr Long Throw.

 

[AWetFlannel]

I don't recall any mistakes of Souttar's that resulted directly in a goal (not saying there isn't one) but I can remember several of Mr Long Throw.

Which says everything about your bias and nothing about the players.

 

[thehet]

Which says everything about your bias and nothing about the players.

No it means they’ve happened so frequently I can hardly forget.

 

[Russtheblade]

To be honest nearly every single player is crap. First touch,vision, composure and technique is missing from them all.

I guess training schedule is all about the miles rather than the key parts of a successful team.

Wilder ruined Watford,Middlesbrough and will ruin us.

Your lot had a decent win today

 

[Russtheblade]

Peck is No1 at giving away possession we know he's only young and learning but he's NOT learning from his mistakes but its EVERY game needs a loan once we get a experienced replacement

He made 1 mistake tonight,unfortunately it cost us a goal, he's done great after being dropped in at the deep end,he sometimes tries the odd pass that isn't really on but that's usually because there's no movement around him or no one showing for the ball,there's no movement up front because Moore is so lazy,I don't know how he gets away with it, Peck absolutely stays here with us,not sent out on loan,he's an important player now

 

[knowsnowt]

Try better next time.

That's what I told your mum.
Your sister is on it now.
Much better.

 

[Slim Man]

That's what I told your mum.
Your sister is on it now.
Much better.

Stop boozing

 

[coaxingstar71]

Unfortunately we are well aware that Robbo has this in his game. Every time he gets the ball at his feet and tries to turn the striker my heart is in my mouth.

 

[TJ blade]

Unfortunately we are well aware that Robbo has this in his game. Every time he gets the ball at his feet and tries to turn the striker my heart is in my mouth.

JLT... when he tries to play football, he makes a bolloxs of it, he's better off sticking to what he knows... that's lumping it & heading.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Which says everything about your bias and nothing about the players.

He drops a bollock at least every couple of games, we get away with them in the Championship largely but he’s a disaster with the ball at his feet.

I don’t think he’s a bad defender but he can’t play at the back in a team that relies on defenders passing the ball out from the back.

 

[Champagneblade]

There’s a reason we had Souttar.

Some players are ok to come in and fill a gap.

But that’s a gap better players need to fill.

We need a Souttar number two and more potency. Otherwise the great start will be wasted.

Having that shitty 2 points off and now giving 9 points to the other members of the top 4 isn’t a good trend we want to continue. We could do with beating Leeds and Burnley in the reverse fixtures.

A lot to do. Hope we don’t drop further points fucking around. We need signings before the next game.

 

[AWetFlannel]

He drops a bollock at least every couple of games, we get away with them in the Championship largely but he’s a disaster with the ball at his feet.

I don’t think he’s a bad defender but he can’t play at the back in a team that relies on defenders passing the ball out from the back.

I don't think he has dropped bollocks this season with the ball at his feet more often than Souttar, as a point of comparison.

A while ago he looked like a complete bomb scare, both defensively and in possession. This season I think he's been good enough to start in a promoted team, just like he did the last time we went up.

Deserves criticism tonight, we absolutely need cover in that position and to challenge those that we have, but no need to write him off.

 

[Houston_Blade]

I don't think he has dropped bollocks this season with the ball at his feet more often than Souttar, as a point of comparison.

A while ago he looked like a complete bomb scare, both defensively and in possession. This season I think he's been good enough to start in a promoted team, just like he did the last time we went up.

Deserves criticism tonight, we absolutely need cover in that position and to challenge those that we have, but no need to write him off.

I just think the whole dynamic changed when JLT came in, Anel and Souttar both individually and as a pair are levels above Robinson.

For me he’s another Ben Osborn, good to have around but you don’t want him starting matches in a possession heavy team.

 

[knowsnowt]

Stop boozing

Only if you stop touching your nephew.
Deal?

 

[Cappy]

Only if you stop touching your nephew.
Deal?

Sounds like a win-win-win.

Love it when it all works out

 

[Charlieblade]

Robbo is an average defender with a long throw. Was he bought to fill the gap left by the JOC injury, when we still played overlapping CBs and JOC was going to be out for a while? He’s always had that error in his game, along with a rather robust approach to hiding his deficiencies.He’s always had has worked hard to improve both sides of his game and despite wearing his heart on his sleeve, he is a 100% blade. The fans pitch side love him for it, despite his failings. JLT is an improved player who has reined in his anger a bit, and always gives the team 100% pm and off the pitch. For all this, he remains error prone, but he is still a blade who deserves our support. He will unlikely win everyone’s heart, but he always gives his all in a Blades shirt. Sorry if that’s not enough for some fans, especially when we need players with a pulse, like we do now. Yes he is making up numbers, but I can think of many others who were not fit to wear the shirt.

 

[Slim Man]

Only if you stop touching your nephew.
Deal?

Drink driving is bad.

 

[Badger Blade]

Robinson's deficiencies become exposed as soon as he has to be the main man at the back and reverted back to type last night.

He was the best of a bad bunch last season but that's hardly a compliment in a defence that shipped over 100 goals, many of which he was culpable for.

I like the long throw and he's a hard working toiler but never looks 100% convincing and always causes me to have a sharp intake of breath whenever he receives the ball. I said at the start of the season that I hoped we'd see as little as possible of him and is something I will stand by - he's simply too error prone and doesn't have a bloke the size of a wardrobe to hide behind anymore or in times past, an extra defender to dig him out the shit.

Difference at Championship level is that not all the errors get punished (outside of last night) but we know that he's simply not up to the job if we go up.

No Premier League club would have offered him a new 2 year deal like we did, only for the fact that Prince was skint and we needed enough players to put a team out at the time. Hopefully come the end of the season, we'll be going up without him.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Even the long throw thing doesn’t really work anymore. It’s about as prolific as our awful corners are

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Even the long throw thing doesn’t really work anymore. It’s about as prolific as our awful corners.

 

[ancientblade]

the bottom line is that we can really only play robinson in a back 3 been proved time and time again thats hes a liability in a back 4 so big decesion for wilder go back to a back 3 or stay with 4 and bring another quality centre back in

 

[Balham]

Peck is No1 at giving away possession we know he's only young and learning but he's NOT learning from his mistakes but its EVERY game needs a loan once we get a experienced replacement

Peck is not #1 at giving away possession. That accolade belongs to Gustavo Hamer.

No, he won player of the year last season because he was comfortably out best player.

Robinson wasn't "comfortably our best player" last season. That was probably Hamer or Brereton. The difference with Robinson is that for all his faults he will always give 100% and last season that was enough to get him the POTY accolade.

He drops a bollock at least every couple of games, we get away with them in the Championship largely but he’s a disaster with the ball at his feet.

I don’t think he’s a bad defender but he can’t play at the back in a team that relies on defenders passing the ball out from the back.

Robinson is a bad defender on the basis that giving him the ball will often lead to a turnover of possession. That said, like us playing Peck as first choice or Davies for three games in a week he is a victim of the circumstances.

 

[originaltrueblade]

Time for Robbo to be permanently on the bench

 

[AWetFlannel]

Robinson wasn't "comfortably our best player" last season. That was probably Hamer or Brereton. The difference with Robinson is that for all his faults he will always give 100% and last season that was enough to get him the POTY accolade.

BBD played 14 league games for us last season. It's subjective, but in my opinion Robinson was POTY and he has a higher overall rating according to this forum's users than Hamer.

It's become such an easy way to dismiss someone, to call them merely passionate. People do it with Wilder, they did it with Sharp. The only reason these people have jobs in football is because they're good enough. No amount of passion will get someone to pay you millions for decades.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Robinson is a bad defender on the basis that giving him the ball will often lead to a turnover of possession. That said, like us playing Peck as first choice or Davies for three games in a week he is a victim of the circumstances.

Fair point, a lot of people are happy because he does a big slide tackle every other game. Easily pleased.

 

[Shadota]

We signed Robinson nearly 5 years ago as a backup to O'Connell. Very shortly afterwards, he ended up being first choice out of necessity. And ever since, we have neglected to sign a replacement, for a man who was signed as a backup in the first place. That can only be looked at as negligence on the part of those responsible. In the time he's been here, Wilder, Hecky, Bettis, the Prince, and every Tom, Dick and Harry in the recruitment team should have been looking at Robinson, and knowing that he was not good enough to play for a team who would be aiming for promotion to the Premier League, and we've done nothing to address it.

He is horrifically prone to making mistakes, in a position where doing so is almost a guarantee of conceding a goal. In a season like this one, where we are not blessed with scoring hatfuls of goals every game, having to rely on him feels like we sometimes have to score at least 2 to get a result.

That mistake for their opener last night is tragically basic as well. He's tried to lump the ball forward, whilst it's dropping right down onto him, with his weaker foot. I'd expect any of our players to struggle to do that effectively. He had plenty of thinking time to just cushion it back to Cooper with his left foot, but instead he's shanked it and let their striker in.

I've seen comments justifying him playing because of the pass he hit at Millwall. I do not see how that absolves him of his failings. Yes he played a good forward pass, but he's not picked for that. He plays to be a defender. To defend. And far too often, he fails to defend, and costs us as a result.

Even if Souttar had not gotten injured, I would still want us to sign another defender this window, because he cannot be trusted to not make a mistake.

 

[ancientblade]

not good enough for a promotion seeking team its that simple

 

[Balham]

Fair point, a lot of people are happy because he does a big slide tackle every other game. Easily pleased.

He tends to have to put those reducers in because he's been caught out.

As I see it, the hierarchy of centre halves has (or at least had) three seniors in it with the expectation that the main two (Souttar and Ahmedhodzic) would play the vast majority of the games with Robinson occasionally filling in. Souttar's injury has changed that and I would be amazed if we don't bring in a centre back this month.

 

[Slim Man]

It's a fucking disgrace that he's still an automatic pick. It's the 24th of January.

Wank cunt.

 

[Slim Man]

He does try ever so hard, mind