Player Suggestion Richard Kone

[Danetheblade]

Not on Wilders list. End of.

He will be by the time I’ve finished

 

[Blade56]

Any idea who is on the list?

Canon. His lists are notoriously short according to PA

 

[bertieblade]

You are very much ITK, surprised you not working as a journalist

 

[Danetheblade]

Canon. His lists are notoriously short according to PA

If Kone isn’t on his list, but Cannon at 13M is.. I think his list needs using to pick up dog shit, then throwing in the bin. Smacks of “I want this and nothing else” ala brewdog.

 

[Danetheblade]

Day three of posting Kone photos until he’s signed. Looks to be some movement as he’s getting directions to shirecliffe.

 

[Deadly_D'Jaffo]

Kone, Kone, Kone, Kone, Kone n Keiffer Mooooooree,
They don't score goals,
They don't score goooaaalsss

(Karma Chameleon)

 

[Danetheblade]

Kone, Kone, Kone, Kone, Kone n Keiffer Mooooooree,
They don't score goals,
They don't score goooaaalsss

(Karma Chameleon)

Kone does though.

 

[Blade56]

Kone, Kone, Kone, Kone, Kone n Keiffer Mooooooree,
They don't score goals,
They don't score goooaaalsss

(Karma Chameleon)

Danetheblade would be happy
if his goals were in his dreeeeeeems
We’re in his dreeeeeems

 

[Danetheblade]

Danetheblade would be happy
if his goals were in his dreeeeeeems
We’re in his dreeeeeems

Got my fourth day photo ready. It’s KONECOMING TIME.

 

[Danetheblade]

Day four… seems he’s rushed up to shirecliffe as he’s still in his Wycombe kit… I think he’s impressed with the desso!

 

[jono_t2000]

Day four… seems he’s rushed up to shirecliffe as he’s still in his Wycombe kit… I think he’s impressed with the desso!
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Doing Angel of the north pose... gone to Sunderland.

 

[Danetheblade]

Doing Angel of the north pose... gone to Sunderland.

Think he’s just happy he’s got a choice of pitches to train on.. and that Wilders finally seen sense and got him in

 

[Blade56]

Day four… seems he’s rushed up to shirecliffe as he’s still in his Wycombe kit… I think he’s impressed with the desso!
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I’m with you on this one but don’t think “the process” Wilder talks about allows for a punt on a L1 player if he’s not on the list. Had we been low to mid table maybe but it’s that difficult balancing act getting the team prepared for PL should we get promoted.

We need to get attention. Let’s take it in turns standing naked at Shirecliffe gates with a “Get Kone” placard, I’m busy so you do first shift today.

 

[Danetheblade]

I’m with you on this one but don’t think “the process” Wilder talks about allows for a punt on a L1 player if he’s not on the list. Had we been low to mid table maybe but it’s that difficult balancing act getting the team prepared for PL should we get promoted.

We need to get attention. Let’s take it in turns standing naked at Shirecliffe gates with a “Get Kone” placard, I’m busy so you do first shift today.

He took a punt on Burrows from league one. Why? Cause he had really good statistics, Kone is no different.

I’ve got a sales meeting down EMA Hilton, so I’ll be struggling to do the afternoon. Will leave the sign by the bush.

 

[Eric_Brooks]

He took a punt on Burrows from league one. Why? Cause he had really good statistics, Kone is no different.

I’ve got a sales meeting down EMA Hilton, so I’ll be struggling to do the afternoon. Will leave the sign by the bush.

Kone literally has had one good half of a season. Burrows had proved himself over a longer period. I also don’t see other teams looking at Kone as an option.

 

[Danetheblade]

Kone literally has had one good half of a season. Burrows had proved himself over a longer period. I also don’t see other teams looking at Kone as an option.

Strikers are a rare commodity, especially ones that are this effective in a short time.

Luton.

 

[FTPE]

He took a punt on Burrows from league one. Why? Cause he had really good statistics, Kone is no different.

I’ve got a sales meeting down EMA Hilton, so I’ll be struggling to do the afternoon. Will leave the sign by the bush.

Burrows was their captain.
That shows a lot more than just raw ability.
(Probably should have checked if Kone is theirs now )

 

[Frank the tank]

If Kone isn’t on his list, but Cannon at 13M is.. I think his list needs using to pick up dog shit, then throwing in the bin. Smacks of “I want this and nothing else” ala brewdog.

Funny how three of the top Championship clubs are willing to pay 13 million for him but you know better

 

[Vass Borbokis]

Kone's stats are impressive.
However I think it's being overlooked that those stats are against League 1 defenders.
Kone has played 25 league games this season and has scored in 9 of those.

Teams that Kone has failed to score against this season in the league:
Birmingham
Rotherham
Blackpool
Cambridge Utd
Bristol Rovers
Crawley
Burton Albion
Leyton Orient
Wigan
Mansfield
Exeter x2
Reading
Shrewsbury
Bolton
Huddersfield

League 1 is a mile off championship level these days.
For example Lee Gregory has a better minute per goal ratio than Kone this season in league 1.

He's out of contract in the summer.
If he carries on having a good season (he's not having a ridiculous season), then look at him in the summer when no transfer fee would be involved.

 

[FTPE]

If Kone isn’t on his list, but Cannon at 13M is.. I think his list needs using to pick up dog shit, then throwing in the bin. Smacks of “I want this and nothing else” ala brewdog.

How many promotions you got?

 

[MayorOJC]

Kone's stats are impressive.
However I think it's being overlooked that those stats are against League 1 defenders.
Kone has played 25 league games this season and has scored in 9 of those.

Teams that Kone has failed to score against this season in the league:
Birmingham
Rotherham
Blackpool
Cambridge Utd
Bristol Rovers
Crawley
Burton Albion
Leyton Orient
Wigan
Mansfield
Exeter x2
Reading
Shrewsbury
Bolton
Huddersfield

League 1 is a mile off championship level these days.
For example Lee Gregory has a better minute per goal ratio than Kone this season in league 1.

He's out of contract in the summer.
If he carries on having a good season (he's not having a ridiculous season), then look at him in the summer when no transfer fee would be involved.

It's a lower quality league, but the benefit of Kone is he does a bit of everything. He can dribble, create his own chances, he's good in the air and he's great at defending his own box. Cannon on the other hand is just an in-the-box finisher. I think he'll go invisible far too often in a team like ours that doesn't create a huge number of chances (as he has for Stoke).

Kone:

Cannon:

 

[FTPE]

It's a lower quality league, but the benefit of Kone is he does a bit of everything. He can dribble, create his own chances, he's good in the air and he's great at defending his own box. Cannon on the other hand is just an in-the-box finisher. I think he'll go invisible far too often in a team like ours that doesn't create a huge number of chances (as he has for Stoke).

Kone:
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Cannon:
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Its irrelevant what he's capable of in the division below if he can't do it in this one.
Moan about Cannon all you want, but he's scoring in the division he needs to.

 

[MayorOJC]

Its irrelevant what he's capable of in the division below if he can't do it in this one.
Moan about Cannon all you want, but he's scoring in the division he needs to.

6 non-penalty goals in 22 starts though and very little in-game contribution. £5m, fair enough. £10+? Nah.

 

[FTPE]

6 non-penalty goals in 22 starts though and very little in-game contribution. £5m, fair enough. £10+? Nah.

Well for £5m we don't get him.
Then we end up with a injured Campbell, a goal shy Moore and a Rhian Brewster.

 

[MayorOJC]

Well for £5m we don't get him.
Then we end up with a injured Campbell, a goal shy Moore and a Rhian Brewster.

Sure, but it's a wide market and we can be looking wider than Stoke if we have £10m+ to spend

 

[FTPE]

Sure, but it's a wide market and we can be looking wider than Stoke if we have £10m+ to spend

Harry Kane was once on loan at Leyton Orient. Why does distance matter?

 

[MayorOJC]

Harry Kane was once on loan at Leyton Orient. Why does distance matter?

It doesn't, I'm saying the choices aren't "buy an average championship player for 8 figures or play Rhian Brewster". We can look at other options.

 

[Vass Borbokis]

The stats aren't comparable, no matter how many times they get posted.
They're playing at different levels.
Cannon has been playing in a dire Stoke side towards the bottom of the league.
Kone is in a team a division below, playing for a team challenging for automatic promotion, against lower quality opposition.

I'm not for one moment saying that Kone doesn't have potential, but there's been many a player pull his kind of stats in league 1 that don't replicate that in the championship.
If he was available for a low sum, get him in by all means.
Reality is, Wycombe aren't struggling financially.
I imagine they'd prefer to keep Kone around until the end of the season to help aid their promotion push, than to sell him for a couple of million now and potentially damage their promotion hopes (nobody knows the fee they'd want).

 

[Danetheblade]

How many promotions you got?

14, currently managing United in the champs league, England and Doncaster rovers.. mulling over an offer from Genoa though.

 

[1889]

14, currently managing United in the champs league, England and Doncaster rovers.. mulling over an offer from Genoa though.

Genoa? I’d go for it, if only for the weather. They’re impressive managerial stats, whilst also holding down a full time job.

I agree with you, I’d love to see us take a chance on someone like Kone, who I’m my opinion fits into our style of football better than Cannon. We need a striker who can create his own chances in or around the box, which he’s shown he can do. I’m not sure there is a significant difference in League 1 or Championship defenders in a one on one situation and if you can finish, you can do it in any league.