CONFIRMED Rhian Brewster

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brownblade said:
Some of you lot must be absolutely unbearable to sit near at Bramall Lane. Take a hard look at what you consider "supporting" Sheffield United should look like.
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And in life in general. I think some folk spend far too much time on this forum craving activity and are often left disappointed when it doesn’t meet their expectations.
 
Barney said:
That opinion is no longer allowed on the forum. Nobody wanted to sign Ramsdale, even for £10m-£15m.

That was, until we signed him, then everyone wanted to sign him and £20m+ was absolutely fine.

I think he'll be a solid enough keeper, but the price we agreed is questionable to say the least. That's if the reports are true of course.
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My opinion is that he’s fine for us. Not great, not terrible but he’s not going to win games single handedly.

just don’t know why these hard negotiation tactics were when we paid more for him out the championship then villa did for Martinez from arsenal and it sounds like Chelsea are doing for Mendy.

why didn’t we drive a harder bargain and perhaps leave some wiggle room for a striker ? The amount we were willing to spend on swift has also seemingly vanished.
 
From the pig end said:
Wasn't £37m buy back mentioned, and it had to be after 3 seasons?

We could be established by then and Hackford will be almost 20.
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It was a vague rumour... as much of this has been based on until now it feels like.
 
If it depends on a board vote similar to the one with Bogle/Lowe that resulted 3-2 in favour of signing. You'd be hard pushed to think this one is going to go through, as much as we need it..
 
I know there’s business to attend in dealing with transfers etc etc but from the outside looking in, we don’t half prolong getting transfers over the line.
 
I don't know who this reporter is, God I don't even know the paper but there were some bold statements in that piece.
Some strong worded stuff that really puts the emphasis on our board.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if he was asked to release what he has.
 
CaptainMorgans said:
Haha class. Exactly my thinking. Is McCabe back?

(holds phone away from ear)
CEO: Psstttttt... they've dropped the price from £25m to £18m. Even said we can pay in installments in whatever way we like. What shall I say?

(McCabe swivels in his chair. Gently stroking the cat on his lap... he rubs his chin)
McCabe: We've got them on the ropes. Tell them the deal's off. We want a loan deal. With an OPTION... make sure you say OPTION.... to buy for £10m..... Wait make that conditional. Yes, we have the option to make it permanent IF (and only if) he scores 15 goals....
This is a man's game.
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Fax machine is broken 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
In all seriousness, if all parties want this to happen & Liverpool are willing to allow us to pay in installments then these are the deals we need to be able to make happen to compete.

When you look at the business teams around us are doing, it would be negligent to not allow Wilder to make a signing like this that he's desperate for. The squad needs help.
 
SufcBilly said:
Still think we get him, wilder won’t let them get away that easy.
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If you believe everything that the press is speculating on, and even the large number of body language specialists who seem to be able to know Wilder's exact mood from the written word, then you are still left with the fact that no one else is clearly offering the money either, else the deal would be done.
We're at no greater risk of losing him now, that we've been at throughout the negotiations, in fact I'd say less because we'll have done the selling the club to him bit already.
 
I'd imagine the issue is purely and simply money.

Remember when we signed Berge? Wasn't that out of the summer budget?

Then we splurged a sizeable sum on Ramsdale.

Prior to that in the prior summer, we spent around 35m on forwards.

The problem we have, looking at the expenditure, is that we seem to be budgeting to improve significantly one area of the pitch per window, however we find this window we still need to improve the area we apparently addressed last summer.

As much as we take the pee out of Chansiri for not selling players, Wilder has been given a pretty free ride since Brooks moved to Bournemouth. I wonder in fact if secretly United expected a windfall from Brooks leaving.

We have sold nobody of note. No keepers have left, any defenders left for free, and Robinson left in part exchange with a handy but in no way significant amount coming our way. Add to that the drop from COVID related items and it's probably all a bit tight.

I appreciate we aren't talking huge amounts either but I wonder if hanging on to Freeman for longer to eek out a permanent move might have been more judicious. We seemed all too keen to remove his wages where getting our money back would have served more purpose.

I would have hoped for the odd decent out of contract player too. Hendrick and Ritchie are not necessarily players that I wanted but of that type you'd think there'd be a few knocking around.

It seems we are then forced to play the long game - see who is left when the big guns have done their business, and if we hang in long enough we may even be able to have them compromise on a loan rather than a full fee.

It also leaves you questioning whether a large fee on a keeper was the right move this window. There will be plenty of keepers kicking their heals towards the end of the window, e.g. Joe Hart on a free would have preferred a no 1 spot, Romero on loan if Henderson is going back there, etc. We might be left thinking that a bigger amount for a striker would have been more useful.

I reckon, based on nothing in particular that we are about 10m shy of what we need and that is why we are waiting for circumstances to change. With the position we finished in, we ought to be kicking on, but with COVID and the stadium repurchase the funds are not there.

Still, amazing what a win might do!
 

We're either properly, properly penniless or there's a bit more to it than we're being told.

If the buyback terms are unfavourable to United then I can understand why we need to think carefully, and why that info hasn't quite reached the news yet. However, beggers can't be choosers, and we really need this kid.

Sign him.
 
Champagneblade said:
I'd imagine the issue is purely and simply money.

Remember when we signed Berge? Wasn't that out of the summer budget?

Then we splurged a sizeable sum on Ramsdale.

Prior to that in the prior summer, we spent around 35m on forwards.

The problem we have, looking at the expenditure, is that we seem to be budgeting to improve significantly one area of the pitch per window, however we find this window we still need to improve the area we apparently addressed last summer.

As much as we take the pee out of Chansiri for not selling players, Wilder has been given a pretty free ride since Brooks moved to Bournemouth. I wonder in fact if secretly United expected a windfall from Brooks leaving.

We have sold nobody of note. No keepers have left, any defenders left for free, and Robinson left in part exchange with a handy but in no way significant amount coming our way. Add to that the drop from COVID related items and it's probably all a bit tight.

I appreciate we aren't talking huge amounts either but I wonder if hanging on to Freeman for longer to eek out a permanent move might have been more judicious. We seemed all too keen to remove his wages where getting our money back would have served more purpose.

I would have hoped for the odd decent out of contract players too. Hendrick and Ritchie are not necessarily players that I wanted but if that type you'd think there'd be a few knocking around.

It seems we are then forced to play the long game - see who is left when the big guns have done their business, and if we hang in long enough we may even be able to have them compromise on a loan rather than a full fee.

It also leaves you questioning whether a large fee on a keeper was the right move this window. There will be plenty of keepers kicking their heals towards the end of the window, e.g. Joe Hart on a free, Romero on loan of Henderson is going back there, etc. We might be left thinking that a bigger amount for a striker would have been more useful.

I reckon, based on nothing in particular that we are about 10m shy of what we need and that is why we are waiting for circumstances to change. With the position we finished in, we ought to be kicking on, but with COVID and the stadium repurchase the funds are not there.

Still, amazing what a win might do!
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But Liverpool only want a token amount up front
If we can't afford this deal ,we can't afford any deal
 
TomJonesBlade said:
We're either properly, properly penniless or there's a bit more to it than we're being told.

If the buyback terms are unfavourable to United then I can understand why we need to think carefully, and why that info hasn't quite reached the news yet. However, beggers can't be choosers, and we really need this kid.

Sign him.
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Penniless
 
I think we need a right sided midfield player and a striker, it could be that we have options to buy them both when we can only afford to buy one and get the other on a loan?
Could be only able to afford both on loans but I doubt that as do not feel CW would have not left sufficient funds in the kitty to get a striker, although the injury to mooooose will clearly have effected things.
The details of the buy back may be very much in Liverpool’s favour and we are trying to negotiate around them
 
Niceguyeddie said:
But Liverpool only want a token amount up front
If we can't afford this deal ,we can't afford any deal
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Liverpool just spent 45m on a back up forward and are linked with another back up in Sarr at about 36m.

I suppose what Liverpool regard as a token may be a significant amount for us.

All supposition of course, but like you, if the terms are so favourable I also don't understand why it would not have just been done already.
 
TomJonesBlade said:
We're either properly, properly penniless or there's a bit more to it than we're being told.

If the buyback terms are unfavourable to United then I can understand why we need to think carefully, and why that info hasn't quite reached the news yet. However, beggers can't be choosers, and we really need this kid.

Sign him.
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Annoying thing is we have not sold anyone for a decent fee for a while. Robinson was part of the Burke deal but I think we expected someone to bid in on Lunny even if it was just a few a million. Can we not sell the likes of Verrips especially if he is still a prospect?

Any money saved on letting players go I reckon that will have been absorbed by new deals for current players.
 
Chuffing ell... This has accelerated quickly 236 pages and I blinked for a day.
 
Barney said:
That opinion is no longer allowed on the forum. Nobody wanted to sign Ramsdale, even for £10m-£15m.

That was, until we signed him, then everyone wanted to sign him and £20m+ was absolutely fine.

I think he'll be a solid enough keeper, but the price we agreed is questionable to say the least. That's if the reports are true of course.
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Wasn’t the fee revealed since the signing to be an initial £10m with add-ons potentially raising it in the future? Seemed a very decent price given the upper totals suggested in the press before he signed.
 
bertieblade said:
I think we need a right sided midfield player and a striker, it could be that we have options to buy them both when we can only afford to buy one and get the other on a loan?
Could be only able to afford both on loans but I doubt that as do not feel CW would have not left sufficient funds in the kitty to get a striker, although the injury to mooooose will clearly have effected things
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Unless Lundstram goes, then I'd be surprised if we got another midfielder in.

In fact I'd like to see us find a way for Osborn in the midfield. I think he's been excellent since lockdown.

I love Norwood's raking passes. But if we are without him or opt for more athleticism, then I'd like us to have Berge and Osborn together and Fleck in the Duffy role.

You still have Lundstram, Norwood and Ampadu even before you turn to Rodwell.

Up front though who do we have?

I'm not convinced any are Premier League ten goal quality at this point, realistically.

Mousset has the attributes but is available less than 50% of the time.

McBurnie has some very good games but for every 8/10, there's the same number of 5/10 performances.

Sharp is great in the camp but anything from him this year is a bonus.

To an extent McGoldrick too. It's a continuation of the fairytale, though 3 goals last year tells its own story of a lack of clinical striking and now he's a year further into his 30s.

Burke has components you look for in a striker - pace, power, strength. But he isn't a striker. Or at least he hasn't been in his career to date.

If we put all our forwards on the market at the price we paid for them, which PL team would be in for them with a view to them being first picks?

Not a criticism. This was always the challenge. At the top table, top players cost money. We took Spurs to the wire last season - they have strikers on 150k+ per week. Even the likes of Southampton are paying 70k per week I'd imagine on Ings. How to compete without daft money being spent? Glance at Villa. 33m for Watkins. Never kicked a PL ball in his life. I can't say I was bowled over by him, playing against 10 men either. 33m for an unproven forward. It's just madness. And we either choose to be part of that madness or opt out and hope the skill of our manager allows us to get away with it!
 
Bladesman said:
Annoying thing is we have not sold anyone for a decent fee for a while. Robinson was part of the Burke deal but I think we expected someone to bid in on Lunny even if it was just a few a million. Can we not sell the likes of Verrips especially if he is still a prospect?

Any money saved on letting players go I reckon that will have been absorbed by new deals for current players.
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It was more a case of Burke being part of the Robinson deal.

Also, "annoying thing is we have not sold anyone for a decent fee for a while".
a) that should be something pleasing given our history, and
b) we simply don't have vast amounts of players outside the first team squad who command a big fee and we want to sell.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
Wasn’t the fee revealed since the signing to be an initial £10m with add-ons potentially raising it in the future? Seemed a very decent price given the upper totals suggested in the press before he signed.
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Don’t think so - the prince in his forum the other week - said it would have been our transfer record (had it not been for the sell on fee) so 22.5m - 15% leaves us around 18.5m.

Not great value for money for me - especially as we are seemingly looking down the back of the sofa for scraps to sign a forward with.
 
Bladesman said:
Annoying thing is we have not sold anyone for a decent fee for a while. Robinson was part of the Burke deal but I think we expected someone to bid in on Lunny even if it was just a few a million. Can we not sell the likes of Verrips especially if he is still a prospect?

Any money saved on letting players go I reckon that will have been absorbed by new deals for current players.
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What was completely stupid was lettimg Freeman fo to Forest on loan. We should have at least recouped what we paid for him. This was especially true given we knew they were goimg to get a big fee for Cash
 

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