Retained list tomorrow

[Cheeky Blade]

Robbo on someone else's bench, would suit me

From what I’ve read on here it’s his choice, I’d guess he’ll be staying.

 

[UddersBlade]

100% - Hamer and Souza will go - maybe Anel - not sure anyone else will get Premier Leagie interest at this stage of their careers. I’d expect those 3 to yield circa £40 million. So you add that to the £38 million last year parachute payment - that should give us £78 million to balance the books and also help build the squad to push for top 2 next season.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

Anel is not going for £25mil with one year left on his contract. I'd happily accept £15mil for Anel, no less than £20mil for Hamer and £18mil+ for Souza.

 

[TJ blade]

100% - Hamer and Souza will go - maybe Anel - not sure anyone else will get Premier Leagie interest at this stage of their careers. I’d expect those 3 to yield circa £40 million. So you add that to the £38 million last year parachute payment - that should give us £78 million to balance the books and also help build the squad to push for top 2 next season.

Don't say Wilder with money please

 

[247Blade]

Brewster can go now, as we have Cannon to take his job as tea boy.

 

[Balham]

Anel is not going for £25mil with one year left on his contract. I'd happily accept £15mil for Anel, no less than £20mil for Hamer and £18mil+ for Souza.

No chance of £15m for Ahmedhodzic. £8m (€10m) at most unfortunately given that we're in the Championship and he's only got a year left on his deal. That said, I've no idea where his buyers would come from, possibly Serie A.

The delusional ramblings of a man who left sanity behind a long, long time ago

Are you OK?

This is amazing.

SUFC Prices to keep or be able to replace
Buy low sell high is the mantra

Good start.

Hamer 30M - will be desperate to leave Wilder and for Prem
Anel 25M - probably stays so NEEDS a good new manager
Vini 25M - as above

We'll do well to get £20m for 27-year-old Gus Hamer with his obvious flaws
Ahmedhodzic, as above, has 1 year left. Even if he still had 5 years on his contract he'd not be worth more than £15m.
Souza is in the £15-20m bracket. Sander Berge vibes for me.

Cooper (won't need to go ) £25 M
Burrows 25M? - should be happy enough at Champ for now - someone may offer £20million if not for muppet Wilder.
Campbell £20M - they won't pay that but he will want a chance at Prem. Don't sell for 10 we would be offered knowing Wilder is an imbecile 'dealer'

Agree on Cooper and that means no-one will be coming in for him
Burrows - has too many flaws in his game (particularly physically) for any PL sides to want to sign him and even if they did, we'd get offered £10m at most.
Campbell - if he can't last 65 minutes in the Championship he has no chance in the top flight.

Cannon - pray for a ludicrous 10 million from Sunderland

I would be praying alongside you but they played Wilder like a fiddle with Cannon in January. They were never interested in him.

OHare - pray for a ludicrous bid (5m +) from as big a clown as Wilder and more 'experts'. I'd release to none league (his level as we saw in his star debut) ) if it was not for the ludicrous praise I hear this muppet getting.

Where to start with this? O'Hare is not a L2 player unless you're the sort who thinks Sean Dyche is a top level manager....oh.

MUST KEEP YOUTH just Seriki Peck Arblaster Brooks now (with Burrows a top 5 in midfield) (plus Marsh, Blacker, One and others I suspect) unlike last year with Bogle Osula Jebbison who wanted nothing to do with Wilder based on experience

Are you suggesting Burrows is a midfielder? Did you watch the FA Cup game?! Bogle got his head turned by Leeds. They're a bigger club than us with better training facilities and would have (at least) doubled his wages. We did well to get £8m for him. Osula would happily have stayed but £15m from Newcastle was the right move for all parties - we got the income we needed to sign Cooper and Burrows; Osula got a PL move; Newcastle got a decent prospect for a relatively (at PL level) small fee.
Jebbison was a combination of bad fortune, arguable misdiagnosis and a massive ego. Not sure any of that was to do with Wilder.

I'd keep Robinson re squad player backup but sign a BIG left footer. Never replaced OConnell before and Wilder has failed in 3 seasons now.
Happy with Dunne coming in in Championship (impressed at the Lane in both boxes and won key headers at loftus road as well) but he is NOT a left footed centre back.
ANEL CANNOT PLAY ON THE LEFT OF A TWO OR THREE - not with chuckle brothers tactics anyway ie WILDER OUT

You don't think Ahmedhodzic can play on the left of a two or three but want to keep Robinson? Do you watch United matches with your eyes closed?

RND is better than most but fit? and Wilder never liked/rated sufc youth so will leave and worse stay or come in.

Now you're just being ridiculous. It would be great to see Norrington-Davies back to his best but the injuries have taken their toll and he's now at L2 level.

Always rated Keifer Moore as the player the lazy scumbag McDonkey was supposed to be. But when his (or anyones) game or fitness goes (eg Burrows at Watford) we need someone who can see the pitch events not the imbecile 'Fred Basset' Wilder whose subs are written on a fag packet before the game.

Burrows at Watford? In a conversation about Kieffer Moore? You've lost me.

Get BBD 5-6 million they paid. GOOD STRIKER

Southampton paid £10m for Brereton Diaz and put him on £35k per week. They're not going to suddenly accept half of the fee and he's not going to take a 60% pay cut.

Get Holding if wages can be reasonable, plus fit enough or per game

This is sensible.

Brewster will go if he gets an offer. He knows wilder is an imbecile who plays him out of position all the time. I'm tipping Burnley as the best fit - best chance he has - maybe Sunderland who are very poor in most positions.

Where does Brewster fit in with Burnley? Or Sunderland? He's never scored a Premier League goal.

We all know who could should go rest of journeymen failures loans (Clarke Choudhury ) plus
Davies (fee?) if have better free options, Shackleton, T Davies (get a fee?), McCallum - great lad NOT good enough if SERIOUS about Prem and Wilder is NOT so a clue there

No-one is paying us a fee for Tom Davies as he is plagued by injury issues. If Adam Davies leaves, who's the backup keeper? Shackleton was a desperation signing when we had no players, McCallum too (albeit to a lesser extent).

As for loans under Wilder
Destroyed young players McAtee and Archer in half a season last season
Gilchrist and Jesus treated like shit on this run in

Every player in our squad last season was undermined by the sale of the two best players before the season started. What message did that send to the squad? We waved the white flag, nothing to do with Wilder. For what it's worth, McAtee made 27 appearances for Manchester City last season and has been linked with, amongst others, Bayer Leverkusen and Manchester United. Hardly "destroyed".

No one SHOULD lend Wilder a good YOUNG player and we can run out of clubs as there are a few who buy them all
And if you did not know we were doomed under Wilder then McDonkey (sufc WORST signing in history of club) was announced as a free on Saturday morning AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I presume you're referring to Oli McBurnie. Yes, he underperformed for us but he was leagues ahead of Oli The Burke and Callum Robinson, both of whom I'd put higher on a list of worst ever signings.

Things can only get better? - DREAM ON CLOWNS

This is pleasant.

WILDER OUT NOW

You're making me doubt that wanting a change is a sane choice.

 

[Blades1971]

We can speculate all we want
Any player coming in, needs to be able to fit into the system, chance who the manager is.
Don't ask players to do thing they can't do or who are uncomfortable with. That just spells disaster.

 

[Boxer Blade]

No chance of £15m for Ahmedhodzic. £8m (€10m) at most unfortunately given that we're in the Championship and he's only got a year left on his deal. That said, I've no idea where his buyers would come from, possibly Serie A.


Are you OK?

This is amazing.

Good start.


We'll do well to get £20m for 27-year-old Gus Hamer with his obvious flaws
Ahmedhodzic, as above, has 1 year left. Even if he still had 5 years on his contract he'd not be worth more than £15m.
Souza is in the £15-20m bracket. Sander Berge vibes for me.


Agree on Cooper and that means no-one will be coming in for him
Burrows - has too many flaws in his game (particularly physically) for any PL sides to want to sign him and even if they did, we'd get offered £10m at most.
Campbell - if he can't last 65 minutes in the Championship he has no chance in the top flight.


I would be praying alongside you but they played Wilder like a fiddle with Cannon in January. They were never interested in him.


Where to start with this? O'Hare is not a L2 player unless you're the sort who thinks Sean Dyche is a top level manager....oh.

Are you suggesting Burrows is a midfielder? Did you watch the FA Cup game?! Bogle got his head turned by Leeds. They're a bigger club than us with better training facilities and would have (at least) doubled his wages. We did well to get £8m for him. Osula would happily have stayed but £15m from Newcastle was the right move for all parties - we got the income we needed to sign Cooper and Burrows; Osula got a PL move; Newcastle got a decent prospect for a relatively (at PL level) small fee.
Jebbison was a combination of bad fortune, arguable misdiagnosis and a massive ego. Not sure any of that was to do with Wilder.


You don't think Ahmedhodzic can play on the left of a two or three but want to keep Robinson? Do you watch United matches with your eyes closed?


Now you're just being ridiculous. It would be great to see Norrington-Davies back to his best but the injuries have taken their toll and he's now at L2 level.


Burrows at Watford? In a conversation about Kieffer Moore? You've lost me.


Southampton paid £10m for Brereton Diaz and put him on £35k per week. They're not going to suddenly accept half of the fee and he's not going to take a 60% pay cut.


This is sensible.


Where does Brewster fit in with Burnley? Or Sunderland? He's never scored a Premier League goal.


No-one is paying us a fee for Tom Davies as he is plagued by injury issues. If Adam Davies leaves, who's the backup keeper? Shackleton was a desperation signing when we had no players, McCallum too (albeit to a lesser extent).


Every player in our squad last season was undermined by the sale of the two best players before the season started. What message did that send to the squad? We waved the white flag, nothing to do with Wilder. For what it's worth, McAtee made 27 appearances for Manchester City last season and has been linked with, amongst others, Bayer Leverkusen and Manchester United. Hardly "destroyed".


I presume you're referring to Oli McBurnie. Yes, he underperformed for us but he was leagues ahead of Oli The Burke and Callum Robinson, both of whom I'd put higher on a list of worst ever signings.


This is pleasant.


You're making me doubt that wanting a change is a sane choice.

Bloody hell Bal, how long has that taken you?
Not disagreeing generally but it's took me an hour to read it

 

[Balham]

Bloody hell Bal, how long has that taken you?
Not disagreeing generally but it's took me an hour to read it

Took me an hour to decipher it. The first quote sums it up for me. It's so insane on the face of it that I had to do it justice.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

I'll stand firm with Anel as we received that kind of money for Berge and more for Ndiaye and they were in their last year's too.

 

[FTPE]

Keep: Cooper, Holding, Hamza, Peck, Arblaster, Souza, Seriki, JRS, O'Hare. Not fussed about any of the rest tbh + Souttar if he ever gets fit.

That's all you'd keep? And 4 of those aren't even ours

 

[UddersBlade]

If Brewster offered a new deal that will pretty much confirm that Wilder is staying as manager for next season & will end any speculation on that at least.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

Weerz retained list then??

 

[tyneblade]

We can speculate all we want
Any player coming in, needs to be able to fit into the system, chance who the manager is.
Don't ask players to do thing they can't do or who are uncomfortable with. That just spells disaster.

That's fine so long as you have a system. After 49 games I've still got no idea what our is, other than give it to Hamer and let him work it out

Not having a system allowed us to sign Cannon and not see that Holding was better fitted to a stopping the opposition scoring job than JLT.

 

[sitwell]

SUFC Prices to keep or be able to replace
Buy low sell high is the mantra
Hamer 30M - will be desperate to leave Wilder and for Prem
Anel 25M - probably stays so NEEDS a good new manager
Vini 25M - as above
Cooper (won't need to go ) £25 M
Burrows 25M? - should be happy enough at Champ for now - someone may offer £20million if not for muppet Wilder.
Campbell £20M - they won't pay that but he will want a chance at Prem. Don't sell for 10 we would be offered knowing Wilder is an imbecile 'dealer'
Cannon - pray for a ludicrous 10 million from Sunderland
OHare - pray for a ludicrous bid (5m +) from as big a clown as Wilder and more 'experts'. I'd release to none league (his level as we saw in his star debut) ) if it was not for the ludicrous praise I hear this muppet getting.
MUST KEEP YOUTH just Seriki Peck Arblaster Brooks now (with Burrows a top 5 in midfield) (plus Marsh, Blacker, One and others I suspect) unlike last year with Bogle Osula Jebbison who wanted nothing to do with Wilder based on experience
I'd keep Robinson re squad player backup but sign a BIG left footer. Never replaced OConnell before and Wilder has failed in 3 seasons now.
Happy with Dunne coming in in Championship (impressed at the Lane in both boxes and won key headers at loftus road as well) but he is NOT a left footed centre back.
ANEL CANNOT PLAY ON THE LEFT OF A TWO OR THREE - not with chuckle brothers tactics anyway ie WILDER OUT
RND is better than most but fit? and Wilder never liked/rated sufc youth so will leave and worse stay or come in.
Always rated Keifer Moore as the player the lazy scumbag McDonkey was supposed to be. But when his (or anyones) game or fitness goes (eg Burrows at Watford) we need someone who can see the pitch events not the imbecile 'Fred Basset' Wilder whose subs are written on a fag packet before the game.
Get BBD 5-6 million they paid. GOOD STRIKER
Get Holding if wages can be reasonable, plus fit enough or per game
Brewster will go if he gets an offer. He knows wilder is an imbecile who plays him out of position all the time. I'm tipping Burnley as the best fit - best chance he has - maybe Sunderland who are very poor in most positions.
We all know who could should go rest of journeymen failures loans (Clarke Choudhury ) plus
Davies (fee?) if have better free options, Shackleton, T Davies (get a fee?), McCallum - great lad NOT good enough if SERIOUS about Prem and Wilder is NOT so a clue there,
As for loans under Wilder
Destroyed young players McAtee and Archer in half a season last season
Gilchrist and Jesus treated like shit on this run in
No one SHOULD lend Wilder a good YOUNG player and we can run out of clubs as there are a few who buy them all
And if you did not know we were doomed under Wilder then McDonkey (sufc WORST signing in history of club) was announced as a free on Saturday morning AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Things can only get better? - DREAM ON CLOWNS
WILDER OUT NOW

Shurrup yer Div

 

[coaxingstar71]

Wilder is the only one that matters.
If not #sufc are in a doom loop
Best players go as Der Fuhrer the glorious leader has to have total loyalty and subservience
Last year Leeds sold over 100 million of talent
There number 1 target was Bogle
Wilder got 6 million
WE CANNOT AFFORD SUCH STUPIDITY
SUCH INCOMPETENCE
Choudhury is already rumoured coming.
Even if has WAS a potential signing a premier league player WHICH HE IS NOT
SEND HIM BACK - get him on a free, Leicester are bust.
10 million wasted similarly on **** knows what attributes CANNON
Same situation
A SIGNING NOT NEEDED after BBD
NONE of his signings at Christmas contributed (except a couple of good game from Choudhury when we were short)
BBD top striker - stuck defending on wing - like Brewster
Holding looked good but we saw the invisible man more often.
WILDER OUT
Sean Dyche in
KEEP THE BEST with promises to leave IF and the hope of a dominant respected manager not the DONKEY leader of a WWI slaughter suicide over the top mission - which Wilder is for SUFC.

Has tha just rolled outta Bankers Draft having been there since 8am on a morning bender?

Living the dream.

 

[robbiez666]

Anel is not going for £25mil with one year left on his contract. I'd happily accept £15mil for Anel, no less than £20mil for Hamer and £18mil+ for Souza.

I don't think we'll get over £10 million for Anel. Only got a year left on his contract, not shown he can perform in the EPL and wants to leave.
I also don't see us getting that much for Vini. Again, not shown he can play in the EPL and I reckon a team could get him for 10.

 

[Jan Age]

Anything less than £25mil for Hamer is laughable … champ player of the season.

£15-20 for Souza.

£8-£10 for Anel

Minimum £48 mil max £55 mil

Plenty for a refresh and to build a very competitive squad

 

[54yrblade]

Anel had his best season two yrs ago. He'll be off I think. Nice kid and we've been supportive but that means nothing in football.
Gus and Souza too. Gus needs a better set up and more pressure, both to get fit and to really test him out. An often not fully fit and unable to last a full game Gus is still our best player. Telling?
Souza, a much better season but a 'shop window' effort?
Cooper came to us to play in the PL. If he wants it, he'll have his suitors and be off too. PL clubs would be daft not to look at him.

My biggest fear? Wilder and a wallet full of cash to spend. Truly hoping the recruitment team have been looking outside the UK to spend whatever we now have and that there are much firmer checks and balances on CW being allowed to spend it, particularly after the Brewster and Cannon signings, and add in BBD and Moore too.

An interesting few weeks ahead.

 

[JPBrods]

18:00

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

We’d have been better keeping Simon Moore than him

We'd be better off with Patrick Moore than Robinson!

 

[mattbianco1]

SUFC Prices to keep or be able to replace
Buy low sell high is the mantra
Hamer 30M - will be desperate to leave Wilder and for Prem
Anel 25M - probably stays so NEEDS a good new manager
Vini 25M - as above
Cooper (won't need to go ) £25 M
Burrows 25M? - should be happy enough at Champ for now - someone may offer £20million if not for muppet Wilder.
Campbell £20M - they won't pay that but he will want a chance at Prem. Don't sell for 10 we would be offered knowing Wilder is an imbecile 'dealer'
Cannon - pray for a ludicrous 10 million from Sunderland
OHare - pray for a ludicrous bid (5m +) from as big a clown as Wilder and more 'experts'. I'd release to none league (his level as we saw in his star debut) ) if it was not for the ludicrous praise I hear this muppet getting.
MUST KEEP YOUTH just Seriki Peck Arblaster Brooks now (with Burrows a top 5 in midfield) (plus Marsh, Blacker, One and others I suspect) unlike last year with Bogle Osula Jebbison who wanted nothing to do with Wilder based on experience
I'd keep Robinson re squad player backup but sign a BIG left footer. Never replaced OConnell before and Wilder has failed in 3 seasons now.
Happy with Dunne coming in in Championship (impressed at the Lane in both boxes and won key headers at loftus road as well) but he is NOT a left footed centre back.
ANEL CANNOT PLAY ON THE LEFT OF A TWO OR THREE - not with chuckle brothers tactics anyway ie WILDER OUT
RND is better than most but fit? and Wilder never liked/rated sufc youth so will leave and worse stay or come in.
Always rated Keifer Moore as the player the lazy scumbag McDonkey was supposed to be. But when his (or anyones) game or fitness goes (eg Burrows at Watford) we need someone who can see the pitch events not the imbecile 'Fred Basset' Wilder whose subs are written on a fag packet before the game.
Get BBD 5-6 million they paid. GOOD STRIKER
Get Holding if wages can be reasonable, plus fit enough or per game
Brewster will go if he gets an offer. He knows wilder is an imbecile who plays him out of position all the time. I'm tipping Burnley as the best fit - best chance he has - maybe Sunderland who are very poor in most positions.
We all know who could should go rest of journeymen failures loans (Clarke Choudhury ) plus
Davies (fee?) if have better free options, Shackleton, T Davies (get a fee?), McCallum - great lad NOT good enough if SERIOUS about Prem and Wilder is NOT so a clue there,
As for loans under Wilder
Destroyed young players McAtee and Archer in half a season last season
Gilchrist and Jesus treated like shit on this run in
No one SHOULD lend Wilder a good YOUNG player and we can run out of clubs as there are a few who buy them all
And if you did not know we were doomed under Wilder then McDonkey (sufc WORST signing in history of club) was announced as a free on Saturday morning AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Things can only get better? - DREAM ON CLOWNS
WILDER OUT NOW

What are your thoughts on Chris Wilder as manager?
Hard to tell from your post

 

[Go with the Flo]

The Robinson fiasco is another consequence of not spending an extra couple of million getting Dunne and Darling in January and instead blowing our budget on Cannon. They would have played, Robinson wouldn't have been able to get another year and we could have saved another year's wages. It just seems like a terrible set of decisions.

 

[54yrblade]

The Robinson fiasco is another consequence of not spending an extra couple of million getting Dunne and Darling in January and instead blowing our budget on Cannon. They would have played, Robinson wouldn't have been able to get another year and we could have saved another year's wages. It just seems like a terrible set of decisions.

Dear COH

Employ Go with the Flo please.

 

[WalkelyFan]

We’d have been better keeping Simon Moore than him

That assumes Moore wanted to stay. Davies is also reserve keeper for Wales so others think he is value for money as a reserve.

 

[Menage a petit pois]

I think we are in for an interesting couple of months....love a roller-coaster ride me.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

I think we are in for an interesting couple of months....love a roller-coaster ride me.

They tend to make me sick.

 

[The Crab]

That assumes Moore wanted to stay. Davies is also reserve keeper for Wales so others think he is value for money as a reserve.

Or a lack of options maybe

 

[raimond]

Could we not raffle a couple of them? Like those “win this dream home” competitions on the internet?

"Oh For F***'s Sake".
"What's up love?".
"Well we've just won the Omaze draw".
"What??!! That's bloody incredible what are you talking about?!!?? So we've won a mansion?".
"No. No. We've won a wiry, angry, not particularly tall scouser".
"What are we meant to do with that?".
"Dunno. I've asked it to make some tea to start wi"
(Crash in background)

 

[Tickhill Blade]

"Oh For F***'s Sake".
"What's up love?".
"Well we've just won the Omaze draw".
"What??!! That's bloody incredible what are you talking about?!!?? So we've won a mansion?".
"No. No. We've won a wiry, angry, not particularly tall scouser".
"What are we meant to do with that?".
"Dunno. I've asked it to make some tea to start wi"
(Crash in background)

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