"Quinn & Montgomery - Worst Midfield Ever" + OT

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Of course they do, and they do regularly.

Who did tonight? Just when is a professional footballer not under pressure?

Which of our two central midfielders can we blame for both Blackpool goals?

Just how have we managed to win/draw against better teams than Blackpool if they are so diabolical?

Quinns been that bad ever since the Premiership, I mean, he's only scored 7 all season.

you will defend a player from any kind of criticism no matter how deserved it is, so there is no point talking to you

they were not at fault for the goals, they offer NOTHING going forwards
 

he had a decent start and showed potential at the start of his career, but he has not lived up to the potential

See... that's more eloquent that calling him "shit" and allows people to have a discussion with you.

I would say that Quinn did start the season pretty well... he played very well away at Blackpool (when the ROI scouts were watching, might I add) but went missing away at Doncaster. He's been a bit on and off ever since.

One thing that does annoy me about him is his wasting of free kicks and would urge them to perhaps, you know, practice these things in training. A controversial idea I know!

I wouldn't write him off yet though. Perhaps Howard was brought in to be his replacement... but that clearly hasn't happened because he doesn't deserve the place at the moment.
 
you will defend a player from any kind of criticism no matter how deserved it is, so there is no point talking to you

they were not at fault for the goals, they offer NOTHING going forwards

No I won't.

If you don't want to talk to me or listen to my opinion, I suggest you set up your own forum where you post your own messages and only have to read your own opinion. I'm sure that'll satisfy you. What is the point in discussing the Blades if you are completely unwilling to listen to anyone else's opinions unless they match yours exactly?

Quinn has scored 7 goals this season, I take it we might as well chalk them off the goal difference and give the points back, they offer nothing.

Just to repeat... I'd still drop him for O'Toole.... but don't forget, I'm defending him and think he's the messiah ;)

As soon as Monty misplaced a few passes the crowd got on his back. Yet when Kyle Naughton did almost straight after he was clapped.

Been happening all season. It only counts dependant on your name ;)
 
you will defend a player from any kind of criticism no matter how deserved it is, so there is no point talking to you

I'm sorry... I'm not sure exactly what it is you want to achieve by being on this forum.

I'm sick of telling you that people like to discuss things around here... they don't just take someone's OPINION as FACT and leave it as that.

If you make what people consider to be ridiculous statements, be prepared to be pulled up about them. If you can't handle your opinion being questioned, then that says more about your conviction than someone else's.
 
you will defend a player from any kind of criticism no matter how deserved it is, so there is no point talking to you

they were not at fault for the goals, they offer NOTHING going forwards

Well, Quinn's scored 6 league goals so far, so that's slightly more than nothing. Unless scoring goals doesn't count, and merely passing the bal round in a Puskas-stylie is enough.

You can imagine the pre-match talk:
Quinn : "Ah, to be sure, losh and begorrah, shall I score tonoight Gaffer?"
Blackwell : "For fack's sake Small, what does that offer? Going-forwardly speaking?"
Quinn : "Roight yez are then boss. Do yez want any tarmac laying then?"
Blackwell : "Fack off Small."
Quinn : "Oy only feckin' offered. Cheap too, from a job we had some spare. Look roight noice on yez droive too, to be sure. Begorrah."
Monty : "I need raw meat. Now."
 
If you'd prefer somewhere where only one opinion is allowed and everyone has to massage it, suit yourself, I'm not censoring mine just because it sometimes differs from yours.

I'm not censoring mine either, because let's face it, sleep deprived though I may be, I am fucking great.

Modest too.:D:D:D
 
You are entitled to your opinion.

However, your opinion is wrong.
 
You are entitled to your opinion.

However, your opinion is wrong.

Great, thanks for allowing me that. That's cleared that one up then.

Thanks for the enlightening discussion. Please can you tell me what I have to do to be classed as a "general blades fan" now? and what I have to do to have a valid opinion?
 
You are entitled to your opinion.

However, your opinion is wrong.

In who's opinion?Can I suggest that you actually read this
definition of the word "opinion"?
It contains this - "An opinion is normally a subjective statement and may be the result of an emotion or an interpretation of facts; people may draw opposing opinions from the same facts."
So, you can't say that somebody's opinion is wrong, because it's their view of a subject.

And it's my "opinion" that if I type what I actually want to type then Auntie Linz and Uncle Foxy will hit me with the Badlads stick, so I'll be diplomatic and simply say that this forum is for debate, not trying to pass off opinion as fact.
 
In who's opinion?Can I suggest that you actually read this
definition of the word "opinion"?
It contains this - "An opinion is normally a subjective statement and may be the result of an emotion or an interpretation of facts; people may draw opposing opinions from the same facts."
So, you can't say that somebody's opinion is wrong, because it's their view of a subject.

Im sorry but wiki is an invalid reference, as anyone can edit it with out a valid reference of their own, thus meaning i dont read anything that is on that website.
 
Im sorry but wiki is an invalid reference, as anyone can edit it with out a valid reference of their own, thus meaning i dont read anything that is on that website.

Interesting that you require references to believe things, yet don't tend to provide all that many yourself.

I assume I'm not getting an answer and will forever have to aspire to one day have a valid opinion and become a real "general blades fan" without truly knowing how to?
 
Interesting that you require references to believe things, yet don't tend to provide all that many yourself.

I assume I'm not getting an answer and will forever have to aspire to one day have a valid opinion and become a real "general blades fan" without truly knowing how to?

the general opinion goes to the opinion that the most people have (given the numbers involved, it can be said that this is the right opinion), to which you usually differ from
 
Im sorry but wiki is an invalid reference, as anyone can edit it with out a valid reference of their own, thus meaning i dont read anything that is on that website.

Righty-oh then.
An opinion is one person's view of a subject, as defined in any dictionary. You do read dictionaries I trust?
opinion - noun - a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
As in "It's my opinion that Gordon Brown is a twat."

A fact is a thing that is undisputed.
fact - noun - something that actually exists; reality; truth.
As in "Gordon Brown is Scottish."

So that's that cleared up then. Anybody can state their opinion, and it is my opinion that you spout some right bobbins.
Hit me with the Badlads Auntie Linz, I'm losing the will to live.
 
And there is no such thing as "the right opinion". Of course, that's just my opinion.
Fuck, this is getting into philosophy. As Confucius said, "truly it is better to live harmoniously than to poke big dogs with a sharp stick" and "Hasta la vista baby", unless this is all bollocks, which will be the only thing it has in common with the very first post in this thread.
I think, therefore I think it's time for a smoke then bed.
 

the general opinion goes to the opinion that the most people have (given the numbers involved, it can be said that this is the right opinion), to which you usually differ from

...and given that you seem to like references, just what cross-section of Blades does this come from? Why would numbers make my opinion less valid? why aren't I a "general blade"? shouldn't my opinion be counted as part of the "general blade" count?

Who decides an opinion is right or not?

Basically what you are saying is, you are always right, I am always wrong.

Didn't the vast majority used to believe that the earth was flat? I guess they were right, just look at the numbers!

If we are talking statistics, should we bring the loyalty points and minutes watched into it? Surely someone who has seen more of the subject would be more likely "correct" if the validity of opinions were based on numbers?

Of course, I couldn't care less who is right and who is wrong, it isn't a matter of fact, I'm merely expressing my opinion, how I see it (whether I'm ultimately correct or not). If you don't care to read it, then don't. I'd suggest you stay in the haven of wherever it is all the "right" people live, you'll be much happier not having to filter out all the wrong people.
 
Well, if you are over 23 and you can’t drive, you are a total retard, or a lazy bastard

If you can’t afford a mere train ticket, then you are a bit of a peasant

Meaning it would raise questions about your intelligence, thus lowering the importance of your opinion

That has to be the stupidist and most offensive post I have seen on a forum for a long time.
 
Hahahahahahaha.... I am posting in an epic thread :D

A few points raised:

1) If people don't agree with you... you're having your FACTS censored.

This is despite the fact that nothing has been censored or removed from this thread. In fact, the only time I personally edit people's posts is where they have a) posted a link to a site we don't really want linking to i.e. football streams or b) where they have posted an image and it isn't attached, I'll edit their post to attach the image. I never censor things when I have to tell people off either... it gets left and the infractions go on in the background.

Having your OPINION (not fact ;)) argued with is not being censored. It does not stop you having your say. It just means that people don't agree with you.

We've had this before where people feel "got at" when that simply isn't the case. People are merely posting their opinions and are sticking to them as strongly as the OP. That isn't "getting at" people, it's healthy discussion. There's no point holding an opinion if you don't strongly believe in it... and often the only middle ground will be to agree to disagree. That's fine.

If there are two people who always agree, then one of them is superfluous surely?

What would be the point in a discussion if everyone agreed?

Did you want us to just hail you lord and master of the forum and stop everyone else having a say?

Ain't gonna happen sonny jim, sorry. I'd get used to that fact.

2) Monty and Quinn are the worst players ever - fact

... worse than Sunday League, apart from the Sunday League players couldn't play in the Championship, so Monty and Quinn are better than them... except where they aren't. But that's 100% FACT!

Anyone else confused?

3) "I'm going to stop talking to you because you don't agree with me"

There you go... that better now?

I notice your sabbatical didn't last very long either.

4) There is a general United fan's opinion...

Who are these general United fans? Does anyone know?

Is it the empty barrels who phone Praise or Grumble who haven't actually been to the games?

What about the people who do go to the games... which a majority on here do... we don't always agree either. We'd have nowt to talk about at the pub or on here if we did.

There's a lovely accusation that's always thrown at this board when people have their opinion questioned, it's easier to cry and whinge about the board being bad than look at themselves and see why their opinion is being questioned.

We have some good debates on here, but because people don't go off calling each other names and having arguments escalate, we get called "happy-clappers". A reputation that is unfounded, but if it means our forum is more sensible and allows everyone to post their opinion, then so be it... that's fine by me.

Your opinion is there to be shot down, but you personally are not.

5) It's better not to go to a match than it is to have to go on a coach

I'm glad I don't have to try that hard to be cool.

6) Lindsay only has one year to learn to drive before she makes the Solomon rating of "retard" or "lazy bastard".

I think I'll aim for retard ;)

7) Lindsay is amused...

And that is 100% FACT!
 
I thought Monty had a good first half but went to pieces in the second half after a couple of mis-placed passes and subsequent abuse from the crowd. I do think that Beattie could have made it to one of his mis-placed passes though - indeed Beattie stopped running and started again to try and make it. However, Quinn was a bit anonymous for most of the game. O'Toole for Quinn next game. Monty should keep his place and he will.

Webber, I thought, gave a decent 7/10 performance for me. His downfall was "one sitter missed" and "two greedy moments" which could easily be translated to "one chance where he hit the wrong side of the post after taking up a wonderful position with great movement" and "two situations where he'd forged himself two openings but only had eyes for goal".

Opinions, eh?
 
Opinions, eh?

Who'd have 'em? :D

EDIT... as a case in point about people having an opinion and it descending into childish name calling (which achieves nothing but makes the perpetrators look foolish), look no further than HERE.
 
all the players in my sunday league team can make simple 10 yard passes, and have the ability to actually hold their position rather than wondering around where they please

In your Sunday team you are playing at a walking pace compared to our games. Against Quinn and Monty your buddies wouldn't even touch the ball. Now at the Championship level they didn't have a great game, won the ball (which seems to be their main job) but did not create much. Webber has great control but does not seem to focus on where to put the ball when shooting - the difference between him and Premiership class, but still quality for this league; for all his dash Ward still did not score.
 
In your Sunday team you are playing at a walking pace compared to our games. Against Quinn and Monty your buddies wouldn't even touch the ball. Now at the Championship level they didn't have a great game, won the ball (which seems to be their main job) but did not create much. Webber has great control but does not seem to focus on where to put the ball when shooting - the difference between him and Premiership class, but still quality for this league; for all his dash Ward still did not score.

Come on, think about it

ward won a penalty

ward had a few shots, all on target, and forced some good saves from the keeper

Webber is just reluctent to shoot untill he gets one on one, and even then he usually misses
 
I don't understand this black and white mentality some people have.

A footballer simply has to be "amazing" or "shit" to some people.

Why can't players just have good or bad games?

Brian Howard had a good game at Charlton, but has played poorly since. Doesn't make him amazing... doesn't make him shit. Just means he isn't playing to his potential.

Some things are black and white and sometimes its the only way to get things done.

Brian Howard is shit with 1 good game under his belt. He has been a total waste of money.
 
The really really OT posts have been removed to HERE

I've had comments that people are getting a bit sick of football threads meandering off into nonsense... so taking that on board, can we try and keep things roughly on-topic please chaps and chapesses?

Much obliged :)
 
At least one of his shots was taken (no goal) despite an open Cotterill, that's the guy who scored - unlike Ward.

Seriously, you can't say that Webber had a better game than Ward. Especially if you didn't see it.

I'm not a Webber-basher, but Ward made a massive difference when he came on - Super Danny was having an off-day.
 
Seriously, you can't say that Webber had a better game than Ward. Especially if you didn't see it.

I'm not a Webber-basher, but Ward made a massive difference when he came on - Super Danny was having an off-day.

In the first half, I thought Webber was probably one of our better players.

In the second half he went pretty down hill.
 
i wonder if it would be a good idea to loan Webber out to a lower league club to bring his confidence in front of goal back and make him know what’s to come if he doesn’t improve.
i used to really like Webber but he would not get in my first team at the moment even his goals of late have been sitters when did he last make the chance for him self and finish?

i think he's at the bottom in pecking order with our current striker selection
 
Webber has scored 20 goals in 104 games for us, this just isnt good enough

over his 10 year career he has only played 183 games

WASTE OF SPACE
 

i wonder if it would be a good idea to loan Webber out to a lower league club to bring his confidence in front of goal back and make him know what’s to come if he doesn’t improve.

See that's the thing... every pre-season he looks sharp and impressive.

He was scoring goals and he could actually trap and use a ball effectively. As soon as a competitive game come around, it's like he panics and forgets how to do these things consistently.

I think he's useful to come off the bench because his pace can cause issues, but a striker who can't finish is a major problem.
 

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