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Swiss said I wasn't intellectual enough so thought I'd try a 6 syllable word in the title.

'The frustration is not being allowed to build on what you achieved last season. That is what happened at Leeds and it's not good practice.'

McCabe must be delighted that we are being compared to Leeds who were in dire fiscal straights - maybe we are? I don't recall Leeds signing as many players as we have since play-off final defeat, certainly for 7 figure fees - could be wrong though

'The squad is very thin and we can't carry long term injuries, suspensions or loss of form in anybody. And that is exactly where we are.'

Rubbish - he is trying to say he is worse off than other managers. We still have a big squad in my opinion

'Things are tough. I've been through something like this before but not with the amount of injuries'

Just a total joke - We aren't that bad are we? Is 3 on the trot his worse run in management? The problems are mainly his fault anyway, in my opinion. I actually think his worst bit of injury luck was Daz missing at Wembley and Wardy not being right.

It is then claimed in the same interview that he turned down 2 jobs in the summer - although no quotes. Would be very interested to know more about this.
 

Good question. The report I read today says 'Blackwell, who claims he turned down 2 job offers in the summer, added, 'The frustration is ......' per my above post.

I've never heard this claim before and as I say, it is not a quote from Blackwell.
 
Micalijo said:
Swiss said I wasn't intellectual enough so thought I'd try a 6 syllable word in the title.

'The frustration is not being allowed to build on what you achieved last season. That is what happened at Leeds and it's not good practice.'

McCabe must be delighted that we are being compared to Leeds who were in dire fiscal straights - maybe we are? I don't recall Leeds signing as many players as we have since play-off final defeat, certainly for 7 figure fees - could be wrong though

'The squad is very thin and we can't carry long term injuries, suspensions or loss of form in anybody. And that is exactly where we are.'

Rubbish - he is trying to say he is worse off than other managers. We still have a big squad in my opinion

'Things are tough. I've been through something like this before but not with the amount of injuries'

Just a total joke - We aren't that bad are we? Is 3 on the trot his worse run in management? The problems are mainly his fault anyway, in my opinion. I actually think his worst bit of injury luck was Daz missing at Wembley and Wardy not being right.

It is then claimed in the same interview that he turned down 2 jobs in the summer - although no quotes. Would be very interested to know more about this.
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This is basically a repeat of your other posts on this subject, you just don't like Blackwell.

Are you saying he hasn't lost key players since last season ?
Are you saying we haven't had loads of injuries ?
Are you saying he hasn't has his transfer budget slashed ?
Are you saying he's had a worse run of form as our manager ?

You may argue, as I have, that it's maybe time for a change but you can't say those aren't valid points he's raised.
 
Jim Chimmerney said:
This is basically a repeat of your other posts on this subject, you just don't like Blackwell.

Are you saying he hasn't lost key players since last season ?
Are you saying we haven't had loads of injuries ?
Are you saying he hasn't has his transfer budget slashed ?
Are you saying he's had a worse run of form as our manager ?

You may argue, as I have, that it's maybe time for a change but you can't say those aren't valid points he's raised.
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Thing is Jim, I may be very wrong here, but I suspect that deep down you know as well I do that he is trying to appear that he is hard done to, in charge of a badly run club with no finances. That is the point I am trying to make.

You often ask these type of questions to argue your point on various topics. I could make a case we haven't had loads of injuries yes and I could argue that his budget is far bigger than vast majority of teams who seem to make us look stupid at times. Of course his budget has been slashed so I'm sorry but why doesn't he just say that.

He is talking about his career not just with us in terms of bad runs and I'm sure Leeds must have had worse but might be wrong.
 
My turn to ask you a few questions Jim.

Not saying I answered yours but I think I have tried, and have possibly done so on other threads. Yes Naughton and Kenny were fundamental to our good team last season.

Do you think we have a small squad?
Do you think in comparison to most clubs in CCC we have a small budget?
Do you think this is or has been a major injury crisis, which is what KB is getting at. Is it unusual in pro football?

What do you think about Blackwell?
 
Micalijo said:
Swiss said I wasn't intellectual enough so thought I'd try a 6 syllable word in the title.

'The frustration is not being allowed to build on what you achieved last season. That is what happened at Leeds and it's not good practice.'

McCabe must be delighted that we are being compared to Leeds who were in dire fiscal straights - maybe we are? I don't recall Leeds signing as many players as we have since play-off final defeat, certainly for 7 figure fees - could be wrong though

'The squad is very thin and we can't carry long term injuries, suspensions or loss of form in anybody. And that is exactly where we are.'

Rubbish - he is trying to say he is worse off than other managers. We still have a big squad in my opinion

'Things are tough. I've been through something like this before but not with the amount of injuries'

Just a total joke - We aren't that bad are we? Is 3 on the trot his worse run in management? The problems are mainly his fault anyway, in my opinion. I actually think his worst bit of injury luck was Daz missing at Wembley and Wardy not being right.

It is then claimed in the same interview that he turned down 2 jobs in the summer - although no quotes. Would be very interested to know more about this.
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Has he really said this? Where?
He must have some kind of deathwish.
 
The Sun. They are quotes. No idea exactly when he said or to whom but it is in the match report.
 
More questions for Jim please.

Do you think our manager should be comparing us to Leeds? Is this a valid point?
Do you think McCabe will be happy with this?
 
Micalijo said:
It is then claimed in the same interview that he turned down 2 jobs in the summer - although no quotes. Would be very interested to know more about this.
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One was QPR. No idea who the other one was. He must be delighted he turned them down.
 
Whatever the rights or wrongs, or whether you want to keep / bin Blackwell I will say this. Has anyone else ever heard of an under fire manager giving the board a vot of confidence ???
 
Micalijo said:
Swiss said I wasn't intellectual enough so thought I'd try a 6 syllable word in the title.

syllable - I find it a little odd that when someone struggles to understand the spoken word they may ask "please would you explain to me in words of one syllable" when syllable itself as 3 syllables!

As for the gist of the thread. I'm no lover of Mr B but jesus some of you have got more stamina than me to sustain this "he's got to go" argument. Que sera sera.
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I can perfectly understand what you are saying Mary but I must stress I did enjoy the attacking bit of the performance on Saturday. It was the kind of stuff I want to see us play more often. Could be miles better and Evans didn't help but it was a good effort attacking wise.

I'm resigned to him going nowhere but yes I will never get bored of illustrating how ridiculous he is when he opens his mouth.

Compared with me he will be laughing all the way to the bank if he gets the push so he can't be the daftest. Fair play to him in that sense. Boy done good.
 
Micalijo said:
Swiss said I wasn't intellectual enough so thought I'd try a 6 syllable word in the title.
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And there was me thinking you just didn't care what I thought, afterall you don't call, you don't write... I don't even remember the last time you bought me flowers :D
 
Evening Micalijo!

Well he's hardly going to spin it as "hey we're on a shit run, but I can do much worse, just you see". Of course not. He'll make the scenario seem bleaker and then when he pulls it around in a few weeks he can talk it up or down depending on his mood.

I've only got a couple of comments Micalijo, I know you love me to mark your posts :D

I've spun some of them a little to the positive, I hope you don't mind

Worst Run - If this is his worst run then thats a good thing isn't it? It shows he's got a good record elsewhere and we should stick by him. Alternatively he's probably been fired after 2 games in the past.

Is it also wrong for him to be honest and claim this is in unknown territory?

The squad size - Can you Blackwell haters please get together and decide a common stance on the 'Squad size criticism' issue. A lot of the Blackwell out comments have been due to his squad shrinking policy but NOW the squad size is ok.

Again as I said to Fiery over the weekend, I don't tend to beat myself up over soundbites and short quotes, I tend to sleep better that way.
 
Micalijo said:
Thing is Jim, I may be very wrong here, but I suspect that deep down you know as well I do that he is trying to appear that he is hard done to, in charge of a badly run club with no finances. That is the point I am trying to make.

You often ask these type of questions to argue your point on various topics. I could make a case we haven't had loads of injuries yes and I could argue that his budget is far bigger than vast majority of teams who seem to make us look stupid at times. Of course his budget has been slashed so I'm sorry but why doesn't he just say that.

He is talking about his career not just with us in terms of bad runs and I'm sure Leeds must have had worse but might be wrong.
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No doubt he feels under pressure and no doubt he could choose his words better at times but the fact remains that all those reasons I pointed out are valid ones as to why we're struggling. For you to come and say what he's saying is 'tripe' is wrong and you are yet to back it up other than saying 'I may be wrong but....'.

Yes, I do often argue my points with questions but only when the points other people are making seem unjustified to me, which in this case, yours do.
 
Micalijo said:
My turn to ask you a few questions Jim.

Not saying I answered yours but I think I have tried, and have possibly done so on other threads. Yes Naughton and Kenny were fundamental to our good team last season.

Do you think we have a small squad?
Do you think in comparison to most clubs in CCC we have a small budget?
Do you think this is or has been a major injury crisis, which is what KB is getting at. Is it unusual in pro football?

What do you think about Blackwell?
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We have an adequate squad in terms of size provided we don't have too many injuries which we have had. The fact we haven't been able to field a full bench tells you that.

I've no idea how our budget compares to the rest of the division these days. What I will say is that our budget should be sufficient for us to be challenging though. My point re the budget is that it has been slashed which has had a knock on effect in the number of players leaving the club and the fact we have so many new players.

Of course it's a major injury crisis. As mentioned in other posts, he has had only 9 players in training recently. No doubt KB gambled in the size of the squad and many of us criticised him for not replacing certain players but no-one could have foreseen the number of injuries so in that respect he has been unlucky.

I have made my points about Blackwell elsewhere. To summarize, he's done a good job but seems too one dimensional and I don't think he can take us the next step. That having been said, and back to the point of this thread, he has valid excuses which haven't helped this season.
 
Micalijo said:
More questions for Jim please.

Do you think our manager should be comparing us to Leeds? Is this a valid point?
Do you think McCabe will be happy with this?
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He's not comparing us to Leeds he's saying he had a similar situation AT Leeds.
 
Must confess I feel a tad hard done by when you say I fail to back things up other than saying 'I may be wrong but........' I've bored even myself to tears by claiming Ward, Monty and Naysmith is not an injury crisis compared to other clubs and quite simply for me he is wrong to even mention Leeds. That is just an opinion that doesn't really require back-up isn't it?

If I didn't say that you'd be one of the first to pipe up (if you could be arsed I must stress) saying it is a disgrace to make such strong claims.

I aint got a clue what is the difference between a comparison and a similar situation is but there are greater minds than mind at work on here so I'll shut up on that one.

If you can't even hazard a guess how our budget compares with others then I think it is a poor show and a cop out. Let's just say Blackpool and Scunthorpe would make Ched's wages go a very long way - not that I have detailed knowledge of any budgets of course!

Yes he has some valid excuses but the way he puts his point of view across is totally laughable in my opinion - which is pretty much what you are saying I think. Not for one minute do I think he should be removed because of press comments - I aint saying that. His results are doing just great on that front at the moment.
 
Micalijo said:
I've bored even myself to tears by claiming Ward, Monty and Naysmith is not an injury crisis compared to other clubs and quite simply for me he is wrong to even mention Leeds. That is just an opinion that doesn't really require back-up isn't it?

If you can't even hazard a guess how our budget compares with others then I think it is a poor show and a cop out. Let's just say Blackpool and Scunthorpe would make Ched's wages go a very long way - not that I have detailed knowledge of any budgets of course!
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You keep saying the injuries to Monty, Ward and Naysmith do not warrant an injury crisis. Correct, but what about the injuries to Killa, Taylor, Harper, Treacy, Little, Stewart, Cresswell, Davies, the fact Morgs, Evans and Hendo have been playing through knocks and illness, not to mention the loss of Paddy, Cotts has been unavailable for personal reasons, Williamson has been out since he signed him.

re the Leeds quote, imagine this scenario;

Seth B: Have you ever known anything like this before Kev ?
KB: Not really although I did have a similar situation at Leeds.

re the budget, yes, we will have a bigger budget than Blackpool and Scunny but less than Newcastle and Boro. I would imagine the likes of QPR, Ipswich, WBA, Derby to name 4 more will have a greater budget than us but again, KB is not complaining about the SIZE of budget but merely stating that the fact it has been reduced has brought it's own problems.
 
Whilst I am sure that the injury situation is a factor,seems to me that our main strength of recent years and the reason for such success as we have had is that we pulled together as a very tight unit, with guts, effort and a will to win combined with whatever skill we could muster. Try as you might, you just arn't going to get that with so many loanees in the team.
 
Blackwells smugness exasperates me immensly. When things are going well he took all the plaudits- when things are going t!ts up he blames squad size, international braks, credit crunch, injuries, bad luck, referees, linesmen, other teams, players agents, crowd,etc etc etc- almost everything apart from himself.
When in any management the business plan is formulated on worse case scenario and subsequently overheads are formulated and planned according to turnover etc - Go back two months almost everyone on this site was saying the squads too thin, what about injuries etc - yet now the only man surprised we are in the cack is Blackwell!
 
Isiah said:
Whilst I am sure that the injury situation is a factor,seems to me that our main strength of recent years and the reason for such success as we have had is that we pulled together as a very tight unit, with guts, effort and a will to win combined with whatever skill we could muster. Try as you might, you just arn't going to get that with so many loanees in the team.
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True, and it'll be interesting to see what happens in January.

When you look at it though, the loan back of Walker was a gimme and no disruption, and we were always going to have to bring a keeper in. Everyone was delighted with Harper so really, the only three you could question are Treacy, Davies and Cresswell. I'm surprised Reid has been seemingly cast aside so quickly, from what I've seen, he hasn't seemed any worse than Treacy and as for the other two, I think they came out of necessity given the injuries and Killa's situation.

Not just the loans though, out of Saturday's squad of 18, only 7 were here last season.
 
Regarding the Leeds comment I don't think it is as straightforward as you say Jim.

I'm sure Blackwell has previoulsy said that times are hard and that you have to cut your cloth accordingly etc etc. We will get on with it etc etc

The quote yesterday about it not being 'good practice' seems to me to say he would rather McCabe ignore the loss of parachute money, ignore the collapse of Valad share price and pump loads of cash into the club.

It is these types of inconsistencies that I am trying to highlight and will continue to do so every time he engages his mouth before his brain. I know you think he's had some bad luck (I don't and think he has brought most on himself re too many loans) and your stance is perfectly reasonable but I think you underplay just how manipulative he is becoming and how contradictory his statements are. I do agree that if a clever reporter gets going it can be easy to pick up on every mistake and sometimes you don't get the full interview.
 
Micalijo said:
Regarding the Leeds comment I don't think it is as straightforward as you say Jim.

I'm sure Blackwell has previoulsy said that times are hard and that you have to cut your cloth accordingly etc etc. We will get on with it etc etc

The quote yesterday about it not being 'good practice' seems to me to say he would rather McCabe ignore the loss of parachute money, ignore the collapse of Valad share price and pump loads of cash into the club.

It is these types of inconsistencies that I am trying to highlight and will continue to do so every time he engages his mouth before his brain. I know you think he's had some bad luck (I don't and think he has brought most on himself re too many loans) and your stance is perfectly reasonable but I think you underplay just how manipulative he is becoming and how contradictory his statements are. I do agree that if a clever reporter gets going it can be easy to pick up on every mistake and sometimes you don't get the full interview.
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I agree he's not the best interviewee and is saying things at the moment that don't do himself any favours but name me a manager that doesn't shoot himself in the foot. Rednapp said yesterday that Tottenham are in fantastic shape on the back of a home defeat to Stoke, Reading's boss is asking the fans to be patient having not won at home since January, Benitez was flapping last week.

I don't think Blackwell comes across particularly well, he seems to be very stubborn, a bit aloof and maybe is the man many are saying he is behind the scenes. That having been said, all I'm saying is that if you analyse what he's saying, most of his comments are not 'unadulterated tripe' as you initally said.
 

Jim Chimmerney said:
True, and it'll be interesting to see what happens in January.

When you look at it though, the loan back of Walker was a gimme and no disruption, and we were always going to have to bring a keeper in. Everyone was delighted with Harper so really, the only three you could question are Treacy, Davies and Cresswell. I'm surprised Reid has been seemingly cast aside so quickly, from what I've seen, he hasn't seemed any worse than Treacy and as for the other two, I think they came out of necessity given the injuries and Killa's situation.

Not just the loans though, out of Saturday's squad of 18, only 7 were here last season.
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Not really questioning any of 'em Jim, but if current policy, for whatever reason be it financial or part of a bigger plan to attract investment, is to fill out our squad with loan players then we are at best seriously diluting our main strength.
 
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