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There seems to be more people that want the league to start and complete than not. However for some strange reason, the negative stories (aguero, Brady and this Brighton fool) seem to get the most airtime.
 

Tarqs said:
There seems to be more people that want the league to start and complete than not. However for some strange reason, the negative stories (aguero, Brady and this Brighton fool) seem to get the most airtime.
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Because it's more 'juicy' than "yeah get it on whenever it's safe and sensible"
 
Sothall_Blade said:
Zero. Its not their fault Brighton and West Ham are being arses about it.
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Well Brady is, as usual, I don't know how much else of WH are.
Fwiw, I want the season completed properly. If that happens but there's no relegation, what's the fucking point? If there's no relegation or promotion, there's absolutely no point even playing the remaining games, imo.
As others say, even if all the games are now played, it's not going to be the season that it was. This virus has well & truly, fucked so many things up.
 
HammerInPeace said:
Well Brady is, as usual, I don't know how much else of WH are.
Fwiw, I want the season completed properly. If that happens but there's no relegation, what's the fucking point? If there's no relegation or promotion, there's absolutely no point even playing the remaining games, imo.
As others say, even if all the games are now played, it's not going to be the season that it was. This virus has well & truly, fucked so many things up.
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No relegation. European games feels very unlikely and the title race was already done.

Games being played in empty stadiums for TV money. Fine. I get why. But it's hard to pretend I am excited by it.
 
Harry's Game said:
A season without fans is no season at all, people saying it’s better than nothing? well wait until you see more than a couple of games behind closed doors on TV.

You will find once the novelty wears off people will only tune in when their side is being broadcast and TV ratings and subscriptions will fall off a cliff.
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I don't think that's the point. For me the point is completing the season
 
LoughboroBlade said:
If this had been in your initial post then I probably wouldn’t have commented. There was no comment on your original post about protecting any vulnerable population, so when you said “So you just have to let it loose and wipe out those it is going to wipe out in as controlled a way as possible” you can perhaps see how can be misconstrued, particularly as “those it is going to wipe out” is going to for the most part be the very vulnerable populations we’re talking about. I’m relieved to hear that isn’t what you meant.
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Somehow, I think you would have probably commented. But I'm pleased that's cleared up now and you realise that I'm not advocating we unleash the virus mercilessly on those that have no chance of surviving it. I can be a little lacking in empathy at times, but the modern day equivalent of Vlad The Impaler or Attilla The Hun, I am not.

I hope you and your family and loved ones stay fit and well.
 
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For those wondering will Bramall Lane be used to host games. The answers no.
 
Yeah I thought that BL would maybe not be used. Wouldn't surprise me if Coventrys Ricoh is used as one of the 10 Midlands grounds.
 
Harry's Game said:
A season without fans is no season at all, people saying it’s better than nothing? well wait until you see more than a couple of games behind closed doors on TV.

You will find once the novelty wears off people will only tune in when their side is being broadcast and TV ratings and subscriptions will fall off a cliff.
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I think I'd watch televised Subbuteo if it was broadcast right now.
 

HammerInPeace said:
Well Brady is, as usual, I don't know how much else of WH are.
Fwiw, I want the season completed properly. If that happens but there's no relegation, what's the fucking point? If there's no relegation or promotion, there's absolutely no point even playing the remaining games, imo.
As others say, even if all the games are now played, it's not going to be the season that it was. This virus has well & truly, fucked so many things up.
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Initially I was desperate for the season to finish, but I must admit the longer this lingers on the more I feel that I can't really be arsed now either way. The thing that is pissing me off the most is the possibility of completing the season but then having no relegation. As you say, what's the fuckin point then?

For a whole raft of obvious reasons, finishing the season would require a massive effort by everybody involved and full cooperation and togetherness of all parties.
The fact that we now have some clubs whinging about playing on neutral grounds and losing home advantage is fucking ridiculous in my book. Of course I can see why they are doing it, but it just makes clubs like West Ham (no offense to you personally mate cos you seem like a decent bloke) and Brighton look like complete shithouses. We all know the situation, people are dying out there, the country (and most of the world) is in a mess; so now is not the time for shithousery, its the time for solidarity.
 
If everyone is playing on neutral grounds, what is the problem
Insisting on removing relegation makes playing games irrelevant.
They’re just hoping all teams within touching distance of relegation will jump on the bandwagon to protect their premiership status.
Don’t let them use this pandemic as Excuse to avoid their just deserts
 
The big thing for me (and this seems to be a personal campaign) is that there has to be relegation. Why the Feck should Norwich be allowed to stay up and have another year of prem money. They've spent less of this years than anyone else and accepted that they'd probably go down. If they don't then suddenly they are in a stronger financial position than both us and Villa who came up with them and they are given an even bigger advantage over all EFL clubs for when they do go down.
 
If there were to be no relegation,any side threatened by the possibility of it,could field weakened sides,giving their opponents an unfair advantage, thus allowing them to gain more points than the teams like us,who have to play sides in and around us,trying to qualify for Europe.
Hope that makes sense!
 
Reading the ever more bizarre set of arguments & pipedreams in the media. I now have this Banger as my ear worm

"I've been to the year three thousand.
Not much has changed but they lived under water"
 
LoughboroBlade said:
If the season had gone to PPG last season at the same number of games, Leeds would have been promoted in second place. Villa, in 8th, wouldn't have been able to claim a playoff place.

Had the season been frozen at this stage in 2012, we’d have gone up in 2nd from League 1. In 2007, we’d have been safe from relegation from the Premier League at the current stage too.

There is nothing particularly fair about ending the season and awarding various division-changing decisions when a lot can change. Yes obviously the likes of Liverpool have as good as won the title, but for the rest of the league you’re basically discarding the possibility of form changing and situations becoming quite different, when we know from our own experience that a lot can change in that final quarter of the season.

The teams clamouring for relegation not to happen on the basis that a quarter of the games are still to play are of course influenced by self-interest, but that doesn’t mean that what they’re arguing is wrong either.
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Well said.

Our game in hand against Aston Villa, directly affects 6 teams.

If Blades win, we go 5th (Europa League... CL if Man City are banned). Man Utd drop to 6th. Wolves to 7th.

If Villa win, they move from 19th to 16th (safe). Watford drop back into the relegation zone with West Ham safe on GD.

There's one other fixture that is in-hand - Arsenal v Man City. Let's say that Villa have beaten the Blades and Arsenal beat Man City. All of a sudden the top of the table changes drastically...

1. Liv
2. Man C
3. Leic
4. Chel
5. Man U
6. Arsenal (UP FROM 9th)
7. Wolves
8. Blades
9. Spurs

Those two games that are yet to be played, affect so many positions in the league.
 
If the broadcasters threaten to withhold payments due to breach of contract by the club's, unless the season is finished, including relegation & promotion.
The relegation threatened teams in the EPL would soon realise that parachutes payments in the league below are better than getting zero further payments for staying in the EPL.
One way or another the objections would disappear & the games would get played
 
According to The Mail, looks like the bottom 6 PL clubs are trying to sabotage the restart

The PL need 14 votes to push through a majority

The top clubs are saying that whatever happens 3 clubs must be relegated, thus trying to force the bottom 6 to play out the season and hopefully avoid relegation

No vote taken place as yet, but apparently 13 in favour of a restart, 6 against and 1 undecided

www.dailymail.co.uk

EPL plea for unity amid claims strugglers are trying to block plan

EXCLUSIVE BY MATT HUGHES: The Premier League will make a desperate plea for unity this week amid claims that the bottom six clubs are sabotaging plans to resume the season.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
Akinbiyi said:
At some point we have to try and get back to normal in some way, shape or form.
What are we going to do, sit around doing nothing for years until there’s a vaccine available for an infection with a mortality rate of 1%?
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For spectator sport the answer to that is yes. It’s a very low prior for The Government and football is a very easy to target to bash for them When they need a distraction from their own shortcoming, see Hancock’s attack on footballers when this started. It needs someone to stand up and fight footballs corner but no one wants to stick their head above that trench because the papers and morale majority will hit them with the key workers and carers bombs.

If all goes very well with vaccine research fans may get back in grounds sometime during the 2021 / 22 season, what sort of football landscape there will be by then is anyone’s guess
 
Blade58 said:
According to The Mail, looks like the bottom 6 PL clubs are trying to sabotage the restart

The PL need 14 votes to push through a majority

The top clubs are saying that whatever happens 3 clubs must be relegated, thus trying to force the bottom 6 to play out the season and hopefully avoid relegation

No vote taken place as yet, but apparently 13 in favour of a restart, 6 against and 1 undecided

www.dailymail.co.uk

EPL plea for unity amid claims strugglers are trying to block plan

EXCLUSIVE BY MATT HUGHES: The Premier League will make a desperate plea for unity this week amid claims that the bottom six clubs are sabotaging plans to resume the season.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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The other 14 team should get together and threaten to vote for those 6 teams to all be relegated with the top 6 in the Championship taking their places. That'll get the twats to stop being such selfish cunts.
 
Harry's Game said:
For spectator sport the answer to that is yes. It’s a very low prior for The Government and football is a very easy to target to bash for them When they need a distraction from their own shortcoming, see Hancock’s attack on footballers when this started. It needs someone to stand up and fight footballs corner but no one wants to stick their head above that trench because the papers and morale majority will hit them with the key workers and carers bombs.

If all goes very well with vaccine research fans may get back in grounds sometime during the 2021 / 22 season, what sort of football landscape there will be by then is anyone’s guess
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I don't think so, it's a cycle that makes the government millions and millions through tax which they need more than ever now.

Eventually clubs will need more money in order to survive and right now none is coming in, and it won't unless they start playing games. That may well end up with them going bust as they're still paying huge player wages. If they go bust there's no one to pay said players, said players can't contribute to the tax system if they're not paid. That would cost the government millions upon millions.

It's not just spectator sport, it's a huge huge part of our economy.
 

If the self interest six manage to vote down a restart then they are effectively signing the death warrant of the EPL. This will give the top 6 the opportunity to break away into a European League in the next few years something Scudamore and his cronies feared for a long time. Oppose the Top 6 and you run the risk of losing all the financial benefits of the EPL that the likes of Brighton crave. I expect this point to be drilled home by the Top 6 at the next meeting and the will of the dissenters to diminish.
 
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