'Premier League corrupt as f**k'

[nopigfansintown]

Not a penalty even under current rules. The distance was extremely short which is taken into account.

The hand obviously didn't move towards the ball which is still part of the rule btw. It was going to Egan's right (along with his whole body) when the ball was going to his left. I don't agree that his arm was in an unnatural position for "that specific situation" which is the rule. It was totally natural for the situation. They do seem to be calling similarish situations more often than not unfortunately.

 

[HillmortonBlade]

Egan’s arm was in what they describe as an unnatural position. It’s 100% a penalty these days.

Unfortunately so, players and teams penalised for an innocent action. I just hope the same interpretation for what is obviously a daft law is applied consistently, if it can’t be made sensible.

 

[davidblade]

Can agree that the ref today was proper bobbar, we couldnt buy a foul, but the handball for the pen was a handball, egans hand was at the bar at the back of the kop when it got hit

What a load of rubbish , Egans arm was in a perfectly natural position when your trying to do a slide tackle falling backwards

 

[Bladezz]

Thought ref was decent. You can just tell our players are too honest. We get a touch and it just looks so put on that we ask for a foul.

Where as they get a touch and they are experts in conning referees. We will get better at the dark arts.

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

Thought ref was decent. You can just tell our players are too honest. We get a touch and it just looks so put on that we ask for a foul.

Where as they get a touch and they are experts in conning referees. We will get better at the dark arts.

Suspect you’re in a number of one, as Blades fans, with that opinion!!

 

[Ecco1889]

2 or 3 situations where it seemed the yellow card was out before the Man City player hit the floor

 

[Bladezz]

Suspect you’re in a number of one, as Blades fans, with that opinion!!

The decisions were the penalty. It clearly was. Gvardiol got a hit to the face before he fouled us. So that was right.

A lot of the little pushes like I say we are too honest and they aren’t. So when we do the same tackles they con the ref better.

 

[BarcaBlade]

maybe it's naive but I'd rather us go down playing the right way than resorting to this pantomime shit.

Do we really have any option here?

If we resort to pantomime shit, will it really help us? I think McBurnie did win one foul last time we were in the Premier, Sharp got two. Egan got sent off v Villa, the Arsenal player got a knowing look. We should be grateful simply to be allowed on the same pitch as greats such as Grealish...apparently.

 

[ForgeBlade]

Agree with this. I don't understand it. He was well off, simple decision, flag up. Why wait until he either scores or otherwise? Linesmen seem a little bit worried they might get a decision overturned

It's a stupid rule. I know this is unlikely, but imagine Cameron Archer is put clean through just inside the Everton half next week...looks marginal but he keeps running, bearing down on goal, then pulls up clutching the back of his leg. THEN the linesman puts the flag up. A stupid, petty, nonsensical rule could potentially result in an unneccessary injury to a player. Just flag as soon as the ball's played you cretins.

 

[Wards]

I didn't mind the penalty decision. It's crap when you're the defender as there's nothing you can do to help your arms going out when going to ground but it's struck him clearly on the arm and prevented a goalscoring chance. Feels harsh but 100% see why it's given - it's just the chance you take when committing to sliding.

That aside the ref was a fucking penis. As Hecky said, to not get a free kick until 56 minutes is ridiculous. Clear big club bias and we all know that is a thing that happens. Cunts.

 

[Aycliffe Blade]

I’m not sure what the complaint is. Egan was sliding in to cut out the cross but a clever pull back was blocked by his trailing arm. Penalty all day for me.

So where should a players arm be if sliding to make a block?

 

[mansfieldblade95]

So where should a players arm be if sliding to make a block?

Behind his back? Players know the rules, it's on them to not fall foul of them.

 

[Conroy]

Thought ref was decent. You can just tell our players are too honest. We get a touch and it just looks so put on that we ask for a foul.

Where as they get a touch and they are experts in conning referees. We will get better at the dark arts.

Exactly this. Grealish won one foul by falling into our player before he was even touched and the ref bought it...I did however enjoy the slightly mistimed challenge on him from George.

 

[Bladezz]

So where should a players arm be if sliding to make a block?

Maybe not punching the ball.

I saw pig fans complaining about Vaulks handball. This is basically the same. Let’s not be like them and let’s be honest with ourselves.

It’s a clear penalty…accidental put a clear penalty.

 

[mattbianco1]

It really annoyed me yesterday. Not because it was blatant cheating but because it was Jarred Gillet that was doing it.

I watched this very insightful video of his final game in the A-League a few years ago and genuinely thought what a great ref he seemed to be.
I was happy for him too when I saw he'd been promoted from EFL to PL... all based on nothing other than this video

 

[JimW1889]

In the olden days it was just whether it was judged to be deliberate or not. Now, in a move that I think is purely to utilise VAR, it is handball if a player

"touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised"

It's a definite penalty given the absurd way this is written and interpreted. That's one of the least controversial handballs of late. But it's just making the game worse. "made their body unnaturally bigger" is a fucking nonsense statement.

Show me a single person that would attempt a sliding block / tackle and not extend their arms outwards to break their fall. Premier league referees also think it's "unnatural" to swing your arms while jumping.

 

[PrestwichBlade]

Show me a single person that would attempt a sliding block / tackle and not extend their arms outwards to break their fall. Premier league referees also think it's "unnatural" to swing your arms while jumping.

It's this whole thing about whether something is natural or unnatural. Surely that varies from one person to another and also it results in on pitch and VAR referee's own interpretation of what is natural and what isn't. I've said in another comment elsewhere, that this gives them the wiggle room they need to explain away decisions made.

 

[JimW1889]

It's this whole thing about whether something is natural or unnatural. Surely that varies from one person to another and also it results in on pitch and VAR referee's own interpretation of what is natural and what isn't. I've said in another comment elsewhere, that this gives them the wiggle room they need to explain away decisions made.

Yeah, it seems to mean "arms extended" when they want to give the penalty and it means whatever they want it to mean when they don't want to give a penalty. But your arms being extended, especially when you're moving, around is hardly "unnatural".

 

[espoo blade]

Behind his back? Players know the rules, it's on them to not fall foul of them.

Look how ridiculous it is!



You lose all control by having your arms behind your back...probably endagering the defender and possibly also the attacker depending on the situation. It's utterly laughable.

 

[mansfieldblade95]

Look how ridiculous it is!



You lose all control by having your arms behind your back...probably endagering the defender and possibly also the attacker depending on the situation. It's utterly laughable.

That's how the game is played.

 

[espoo blade]

That's how the game is played.

 

[mansfieldblade95]

Rules are rules. They need to practice in training.

 

[espoo blade]

Rules are rules. They need to practice in training.

As has been alluded to several times above, the laws state that Egan's handball should not have been penalised as you could argue his hand is away from his body to cushion his fall in sliding, i.e. his hand is in a "natural" position. I would say that having both arms down by your side like a penguin is more unnatural.

 

[mansfieldblade95]

As has been alluded to several times above, the laws state that Egan's handball should not have been penalised as you could argue his hand is away from his body to cushion his fall in sliding. I would say that having both arms down by your side like a penguin is more unnatural.

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Quite simple. Keep your arms behind your back in the box.

 

[espoo blade]

Quite simple. Keep your arms behind your back in the box.

Yeah, when standing. Agreed.

 

[mansfieldblade95]

Yeah, when standing. Agreed.

When in the box

 

[Dave151]

As a City fan, I'm shouting for a pen. Harsh but that's the rule, you'll see the same decision every week in all leagues. If the Blades player crosses and the ball & strikes Dias' arm, your screaming for a pen, yes?

 

[espoo blade]

As a City fan, I'm shouting for a pen. Harsh but that's the rule, you'll see the same decision every week in all leagues. If the Blades player crosses and the ball & strikes Dias' arm, your screaming for a pen, yes?

Of course you are. That's not really the point is it?

 

[Dkc]

Doesn't matter if it was accidental. It's a pen.

If the ball hits a defender's hand on the line, preventing a goal, everyone would agree it's a pen regardless of intent. Egan's accidental handball prevented a potential goalscoring opportunity. Same principle applies.

Saying that, I agree that refs (consciously or not) are favouring the bigger teams, and VAR has made the game worse for the spectator. They could get rid of it tomorrow and improve the sport, or even just use it for its original purpose (clear and obvious mistakes by the ref) - but they won't.

 

[Guesty]

As a City fan, I'm shouting for a pen. Harsh but that's the rule, you'll see the same decision every week in all leagues. If the Blades player crosses and the ball & strikes Dias' arm, your screaming for a pen, yes?

The difference is, we wouldn't get one.