post-match presser- "I think we need to keep all the players"

[crazyblade1889]

If the old guard weren't here for the last few seasons would anybody be suggesting picking them up on a free for the PL?

Of course not. But they are here. They have proven themselves to be committed to the club. They are integrated into the squad. Our coaches understand their strengths and weaknesses, and the other players know their movements. Plus we don’t need to pay a transfer fee, or pay their agents, and we don’t need to scout them.

 

[Ned the Donkey]

It's all about how they work as a team, not the quality of your individuals.

The seemingly endless amount of total and utter bollocks talked about football which completely fails to acknowledge this most basic fact will never cease to amaze.

 

[Brownieblade]

I love Sharp to bits but he's bagged less than a handful this season.. I can guarantee the only suitors he'll have are football league.

I dont think we have played to his strengths at all tbh, I don’t think we are a create chances for strikers at all

my argument is more body on bench, throw plan out of window and see If something falls every week if that’s what needed, I’m not talking starting etc

Right now, let’s say for arguments sake, next season we start with Mcburnie and new striker ( sadly illy has gone ) so that’s our starting plan: we get to most games a goal down or drawing with 10 mins left, aside from price tag or youth element, is there anything to suggest a Brewster or Jebbo or Osula would be more likely to nick a half chance in the box than Billy ??

 

[FriethBlade]

I'd be shocked if we spend £50 million and that would include loan fees/sign-on fees.

We need to offer about 15 contracts for a start. All those of sign-on and agent fees. Wages will be going up significantly. We've got heaps of debt and lots of infrastructure stuff will need sorting.

Robbie, agreed I'm talking 30m not 50m. If we can't afford that we have to accept its a one season visit. However given the Princes history of spending and gambling (hanging on to Berge and Ndiaye) I will br amazed if he doesn't find 30m for fees which could extend our Premier Leagie stay. That still leaves plenty for paying down debt and infrastructure

 

[Charlieblade]

Even though I wouldn't be giving many new contracts out, I can see why Sharp and maybe Fleck would be given a year.

But Stevens? He's contributed nothing for 2 years so that would be bizarre.

Out of all those needing a contract renewal, I suspect that both Sharp and Fleck have reached their sell by date. They probably realise it too. Stevens is on the undecided list for me, but I won’t be crying if he does go.

We will need to start again with loan players. Given our reputation and the success we have with Doyle and McAtee,finding quality players with a reputation for the right fit and attitude, I don’t see this as a major problem. I like Clark and I think he could be a decent buy if the costs are realistic in terms of a small fee and reduced wages.

Too many of the players we want to keep as back up squad members will only be offered one year contracts, and we will be in a worse place at the end of next season. Much tougher decisions to be made with academy graduates.

One of, or possibly both of, Berge and Ndiaye will likely move on. It’s not unreasonable to expect a fairly low transfer budget if the Prince remains owner..

Buy Doyle, loan McAtee again, and give one year contracts to those who PH can justify keeping.

Plenty of what ifs and maybe’s, but I envisage at least 4 well researched loans, plus one or two permanent signings.

We also have a very important vacancy for recruitment, at the very same time when so much rests on incoming, and outgoing players. Three Yorkshire lads will have a big influence on this. I hope they know our players well enough to be pragmatic about the future of lads they have worked with and got know very well.

A lot rests on the return of Brewster and RND. These unknown outcomes cannot easily be assumed. Hope they both come good.

 

[Teddy]

Out of all those needing a contract renewal, I suspect that both Sharp and Fleck have reached their sell by date. They probably realise it too. Stevens is on the undecided list for me, but I won’t be crying if he does go.

We will need to start again with loan players. Given our reputation and the success we have with Doyle and McAtee,finding quality players with a reputation for the right fit and attitude, I don’t see this as a major problem. I like Clark and I think he could be a decent buy if the costs are realistic in terms of a small fee and reduced wages.

Too many of the players we want to keep as back up squad members will only be offered one year contracts, and we will be in a worse place at the end of next season. Much tougher decisions to be made with academy graduates.

One of, or possibly both of, Berge and Ndiaye will likely move on. It’s not unreasonable to expect a fairly low transfer budget if the Prince remains owner..

Buy Doyle, loan McAtee again, and give one year contracts to those who PH can justify keeping.

Plenty of what ifs and maybe’s, but I envisage at least 4 well researched loans, plus one or two permanent signings.

We also have a very important vacancy for recruitment, at the very same time when so much rests on incoming, and outgoing players. Three Yorkshire lads will have a big influence on this. I hope they know our players well enough to be pragmatic about the future of lads they have worked with and got know very well.

A lot rests on the return of Brewster and RND. These unknown outcomes cannot easily be assumed. Hope they both come good.

Agree with that but it’s funny how we all see things slightly differently… for me Enda is the one member of the “Old Guard” I struggle to make a case for keeping.

He’s become so injury prone and it feels like years since we’ve seen peak Enda - add to that we already have two LWBs (and theoretically cover from Robinson/Osborn) and he does seem surplus to requirements. Compare that to say Fleck or Bash where we’re light on CMs and CBs.

No disrespect to him he’s one of my faves of the last few years, some of his trickery and mazy runs down the left in the first Prem season were obscene and I still rewatch them with glee.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Agree with that but it’s funny how we all see things slightly differently… for me Enda is the one member of the “Old Guard” I struggle to make a case for keeping.

He’s become so injury prone and it feels like years since we’ve seen peak Enda - add to that we already have two LWBs (and theoretically cover from Robinson/Osborn) and he does seem surplus to requirements. Compare that to say Fleck or Bash where we’re light on CMs and CBs.

No disrespect to him he’s one of my faves of the last few years, some of his trickery and mazy runs down the left in the first Prem season were obscene and I still rewatch them with glee.

Yep agreed on Stevens. We have at least 3 LWBs without him and he's barely kicked a ball in two years due to being injured alot.

 

[Charlieblade]

Agree with that but it’s funny how we all see things slightly differently… for me Enda is the one member of the “Old Guard” I struggle to make a case for keeping.

He’s become so injury prone and it feels like years since we’ve seen peak Enda - add to that we already have two LWBs (and theoretically cover from Robinson/Osborn) and he does seem surplus to requirements. Compare that to say Fleck or Bash where we’re light on CMs and CBs.

No disrespect to him he’s one of my faves of the last few years, some of his trickery and mazy runs down the left in the first Prem season were obscene and I still rewatch them with glee.

Yep agreed on Stevens. We have at least 3 LWBs without him and he's barely kicked a ball in two years due to being injured alot.

Our left side has struggle to keep up with supply to the forwards, and Edna’s input has been missed. Probably forgotten with the McAtee contributions.

I agree that 3 lwb’s is one too many. I’m happy to keep JLT and Osborn for these roles, and wait and see RND back on top of his game. Enda has his age and only 10 appearances against him this season?

Of those 4, only RND might make the grade for PL starter at LWB or LCB? The others could fill a number two spot, and one of them could move on.

 

[ATL Recs]

Why do you lot think I’ve a vendetta. I don’t I’m a Blade and wish to see him out of the club. I’m surprised I haven’t been labelled racist yet. He’s not executed anyone I know and could he could be a nice bloke but he is a businessman that will walk out with a lot of cash from promotion etc. I can’t be arsed with banging on about it because a lot on here think differently (time will tell).

Yawn

 

[Andy67]

Yawn

So tired and yet you respond. Begins in F and ends in t, work it out tired eyes.

 

[sufc323]

So tired and yet you respond. Begins in F and ends in t, work it out tired eyes.

Fat? Not very nice if so.

 

[SUFC Guy]

So tired and yet you respond. Begins in F and ends in t, work it out tired eyes.

Fact ?

 

[Andy67]

Fat? Not very nice if so.

You don’t think I’d make it that easy. If he gets frustrated maybe he can go back through all the responses I have had and at least think of something more original or failing that more abusive.

 

[Andy67]

Fact ?

More letters but he can sleep soundly that your response is very humorous.

 

[Booker4]

Out of all those needing a contract renewal, I suspect that both Sharp and Fleck have reached their sell by date. They probably realise it too. Stevens is on the undecided list for me, but I won’t be crying if he does go.

We will need to start again with loan players. Given our reputation and the success we have with Doyle and McAtee,finding quality players with a reputation for the right fit and attitude, I don’t see this as a major problem. I like Clark and I think he could be a decent buy if the costs are realistic in terms of a small fee and reduced wages.

Too many of the players we want to keep as back up squad members will only be offered one year contracts, and we will be in a worse place at the end of next season. Much tougher decisions to be made with academy graduates.

One of, or possibly both of, Berge and Ndiaye will likely move on. It’s not unreasonable to expect a fairly low transfer budget if the Prince remains owner..

Buy Doyle, loan McAtee again, and give one year contracts to those who PH can justify keeping.

Plenty of what ifs and maybe’s, but I envisage at least 4 well researched loans, plus one or two permanent signings.

We also have a very important vacancy for recruitment, at the very same time when so much rests on incoming, and outgoing players. Three Yorkshire lads will have a big influence on this. I hope they know our players well enough to be pragmatic about the future of lads they have worked with and got know very well.

A lot rests on the return of Brewster and RND. These unknown outcomes cannot easily be assumed. Hope they both come good.

Some good points but I disagree on a few also. Firstly Stevens has spent more time injured than fit this season, or 50/50. He's 32 now and we've got two better LWB's in Lowe and RND. So I'd say he is as obvious to release as Sharp and Fleck, with Sharp though he may be retained as a coach/part time player role but of course that still takes a space of the 25 man squad.

I would say the players who may be only offered one year deals as back up players won't be good enough to be starters even in the Championship at the start of the season after the one coming (i.e 14 months from now) so it won't be a loss if they are then released next summer. I'm referring to the likes of Fleck, Norwood, Stevens. I'd expect Robinson and McBurnie to be given longer deals than a years extension.

In essence what I'm saying is that we know whether it's this summer or next that we need to add several players to this squad, but of course the Academy players may well fill several places such as Boyes and Arblaster. I would like to see a refreshing of this squad this summer and allow those out of contract to move on in most cases, but it seems Hecky want's to keep them all, or that is at lease what he said. I can only assume that is because he knows he has a limited budget and only wants to spend the budget we have on players to start rather than having to spend money on back up players but that's a risky game if we get injuries and have a midfield containing two of Norwood, Fleck or Osborn!

 

[SUFC Guy]

More letters but he can sleep soundly that your response is very humorous.

Ah! Floriculturist !

 

[Andy67]

Ah! Floriculturist !

Don’t carry on, your blotting the quality of your first response. This stuff (responses without end in sight) ended up getting me in shoutbox for deviants, soon everybody will be here wanting their twopennyworth.

 

[Charlieblade]

Some good points but I disagree on a few also. Firstly Stevens has spent more time injured than fit this season, or 50/50. He's 32 now and we've got two better LWB's in Lowe and RND. So I'd say he is as obvious to release as Sharp and Fleck, with Sharp though he may be retained as a coach/part time player role but of course that still takes a space of the 25 man squad.

I would say the players who may be only offered one year deals as back up players won't be good enough to be starters even in the Championship at the start of the season after the one coming (i.e 14 months from now) so it won't be a loss if they are then released next summer. I'm referring to the likes of Fleck, Norwood, Stevens. I'd expect Robinson and McBurnie to be given longer deals than a years extension.

In essence what I'm saying is that we know whether it's this summer or next that we need to add several players to this squad, but of course the Academy players may well fill several places such as Boyes and Arblaster. I would like to see a refreshing of this squad this summer and allow those out of contract to move on in most cases, but it seems Hecky want's to keep them all, or that is at lease what he said. I can only assume that is because he knows he has a limited budget and only wants to spend the budget we have on players to start rather than having to spend money on back up players but that's a risky game if we get injuries and have a midfield containing two of Norwood, Fleck or Osborn!

I said before that I am undecided about Stevens, due to ‘his age and only 10 appearances this season’.

Number two slots will need to be filled, by existing squad members or academy graduates.
Fortunately it’s Hecky’s decision, not ours.

 

[Houston_Blade]

If the old guard weren't here for the last few seasons would anybody be suggesting picking them up on a free for the PL?

Get Didzy back

 

[Booker4]

I said before that I am undecided about Stevens, due to ‘his age and only 10 appearances this season’.

Number two slots will need to be filled, by existing squad members or academy graduates.
Fortunately it’s Hecky’s decision, not ours.

This is true, I just wouldn't offer him a contract now, great servant but if we were going to offer Osborn a contract then he can offer cover there also and is arguably better than Lowe. However Osborn is another with regular injury problems in last year or so.

It's the bit where you say number two slots will be filled by existing squad members that worries me and I think that's the way we're heading. As I said before, I wouldn't want most of the out of contract players now even as backups given recent form and age but ultimately we don't have the budget to replace them as well as bring in 5/6 starters. That's what Hecky said of course recently but phrased it in a way where he wanted them to stay because he's good at man management.

 

[SUFC Guy]

Don’t carry on, your blotting the quality of your first response. This stuff (responses without end in sight) ended up getting me in shoutbox for deviants, soon everybody will be here wanting their twopennyworth.

Fishiest !

 

[Grandmanasty]

So tired and yet you respond. Begins in F and ends in t, work it out tired eyes.

Flatulent?

 

[Grandmanasty]

So tired and yet you respond. Begins in F and ends in t, work it out tired eyes.

Flautist?

 

[Charlieblade]

This is true, I just wouldn't offer him a contract now, great servant but if we were going to offer Osborn a contract then he can offer cover there also and is arguably better than Lowe. However Osborn is another with regular injury problems in last year or so.

It's the bit where you say number two slots will be filled by existing squad members that worries me and I think that's the way we're heading. As I said before, I wouldn't want most of the out of contract players now even as backups given recent form and age but ultimately we don't have the budget to replace them as well as bring in 5/6 starters. That's what Hecky said of course recently but phrased it in a way where he wanted them to stay because he's good at man management.

Hecky is a realist. It’s one of the reasons he needs clarity now. As a ‘development club’ he knows we have players who will be out of contract fact. He knows all the loan players will be going back, and he could end up having to replace Ndiaye, Berge, Ahmedhodzic as well as Doyle and McAtee. That is a big ask for any manager.
The Prince has made it clear that he needs to sell the club. He has the option to cash in on some players and show a very sound balance sheet, or keep those players as the spine of an attractive EPL club?
Hecky will carry on whatever the Prince decides. His interests have never changed. Play to win, whichever league we are in and whatever players he has left to do it with. The subject of out of contract players can only be dealt with when PH has clarity.

I think we will end up trying to do half and half. Sell one of the star assets, and make do with the rest.

Baldock and Bogle, both firing, represent a good balance on the right. Who fills the same slots at LWB?
The same problem exists in midfield, with Doyle and McAtee gone, and Norwood in decline?

In the end, Hecky will have the problem left by whatever decision the Prince makes. Nothing changes for PH. Do the best you can, with whatever is left? Individual players only come into it when the big decisions are made. As supporters, all we have is different opinions.

 

[Champagneblade]

Some good points but I disagree on a few also. Firstly Stevens has spent more time injured than fit this season, or 50/50. He's 32 now and we've got two better LWB's in Lowe and RND. So I'd say he is as obvious to release as Sharp and Fleck, with Sharp though he may be retained as a coach/part time player role but of course that still takes a space of the 25 man squad.

I would say the players who may be only offered one year deals as back up players won't be good enough to be starters even in the Championship at the start of the season after the one coming (i.e 14 months from now) so it won't be a loss if they are then released next summer. I'm referring to the likes of Fleck, Norwood, Stevens. I'd expect Robinson and McBurnie to be given longer deals than a years extension.

In essence what I'm saying is that we know whether it's this summer or next that we need to add several players to this squad, but of course the Academy players may well fill several places such as Boyes and Arblaster. I would like to see a refreshing of this squad this summer and allow those out of contract to move on in most cases, but it seems Hecky want's to keep them all, or that is at lease what he said. I can only assume that is because he knows he has a limited budget and only wants to spend the budget we have on players to start rather than having to spend money on back up players but that's a risky game if we get injuries and have a midfield containing two of Norwood, Fleck or Osborn!

I'm coming around to why we are taking this approach.

I think part of it is due to the relatively clear succession planning there is in the squad and part that we value the spirit upon which the squad is built.

Let's assume we plan for getting relegated.

I don't suppose anyone is suggesting some of the young lads are ready for starting at the top level next season.

But can some be ready to challenge in the Championship the year after?

Looking at those deals you might extend:

Stevens -> Boyes.

If Boyes could get just the right loan, then it isn't unimaginable that he'd be an option in the squad for the 24/25 season. Keeping Stevens gives him another year to develop.

Fleck -> Arblaster

Perhaps not immediately like for like but he's seen as perhaps the most promising of young midfielders. He might be one we keep around the squad or he might be pushed to a League One loan but Fleck showed against City that he can be defensively sound and against Preston that he can still cover ground. Fleck's role would be mainly as sub and in cups. I could certainly see Arblaster and Doyle if we could get him, as a future midfield duo.

Sharp -> Osula

Similar to Boyes, a good loan should hopefully see him well placed to take over from Billy, whilst Billy can lead the team in the cups to rest the main starters to focus on the league and with 9 subs, you never know. His knowhow might be useful late on in games.

Norwood will get a 2 year extension I'd expect. Recency bias aside when Doyle took his spot, he played 86% of minutes and still made some teams of the year.

Who else is really up for debate?

Wes is the current first choice keeper; no reason to get rid of him, though the PL will be less forgiving for moments of casual play. If we go down he's still decent age for a keeper to go again.

Bash has a year left though he will be 35 when the season starts so could be his last year with us.

Robinson, like Wes has been a starter so his retention is another no brainer.

Coulibaly has only just got going and it is easy to forget he's not 23 until Christmas.

McBurnie has started to show better form this year to last and his extension will be triggered.

The likes of Jebbo and Osula if they are running out, likely they have extensions and new deals are obvious.

I suppose we don't publicly know about Osborn's accident but he's versatile and liked by Hecky so if fit, Hecky will keep him.

Just O'Connell, we probably expect something non-playing to emerge with him.

So, presumptuously and fancifully, I'd expect the 2024/25 squad to look a little like this:

G: Foderingham, Davies, Amissah
RWB: Baldock, Bogle
LWB: Lowe or 2023/24 signing, Boyes
RCB: 2023/24 signing, 2024/25 signing
CB: Egan
LCB: Norrington-Davies, Robinson,
CM: Doyle*, Arblaster, Norwood, Coulibaly, Osborn, 2024/25 McAtee type loan
CF: McBurnie, Jebbison, Osula, Brewster, Marsh, Sharp (6th choice player/coach)

That's still not a bad line up for 12 months time, fully expecting Ahmedhodžić, Berge and Ndiaye to move on and us to be more of a 3-4-1-2 to get 2 out and out strikers in there.

But who knows? Maybe we stay up!

 

[Booker4]

I'm coming around to why we are taking this approach.

I think part of it is due to the relatively clear succession planning there is in the squad and part that we value the spirit upon which the squad is built.

Let's assume we plan for getting relegated.

I don't suppose anyone is suggesting some of the young lads are ready for starting at the top level next season.

But can some be ready to challenge in the Championship the year after?

Looking at those deals you might extend:

Stevens -> Boyes.

If Boyes could get just the right loan, then it isn't unimaginable that he'd be an option in the squad for the 24/25 season. Keeping Stevens gives him another year to develop.

Fleck -> Arblaster

Perhaps not immediately like for like but he's seen as perhaps the most promising of young midfielders. He might be one we keep around the squad or he might be pushed to a League One loan but Fleck showed against City that he can be defensively sound and against Preston that he can still cover ground. Fleck's role would be mainly as sub and in cups. I could certainly see Arblaster and Doyle if we could get him, as a future midfield duo.

Sharp -> Osula

Similar to Boyes, a good loan should hopefully see him well placed to take over from Billy, whilst Billy can lead the team in the cups to rest the main starters to focus on the league and with 9 subs, you never know. His knowhow might be useful late on in games.

Norwood will get a 2 year extension I'd expect. Recency bias aside when Doyle took his spot, he played 86% of minutes and still made some teams of the year.

Who else is really up for debate?

Wes is the current first choice keeper; no reason to get rid of him, though the PL will be less forgiving for moments of casual play. If we go down he's still decent age for a keeper to go again.

Bash has a year left though he will be 35 when the season starts so could be his last year with us.

Robinson, like Wes has been a starter so his retention is another no brainer.

Coulibaly has only just got going and it is easy to forget he's not 23 until Christmas.

McBurnie has started to show better form this year to last and his extension will be triggered.

The likes of Jebbo and Osula if they are running out, likely they have extensions and new deals are obvious.

I suppose we don't publicly know about Osborn's accident but he's versatile and liked by Hecky so if fit, Hecky will keep him.

Just O'Connell, we probably expect something non-playing to emerge with him.

So, presumptuously and fancifully, I'd expect the 2024/25 squad to look a little like this:

G: Foderingham, Davies, Amissah
RWB: Baldock, Bogle
LWB: Lowe or 2023/24 signing, Boyes
RCB: 2023/24 signing, 2024/25 signing
CB: Egan
LCB: Norrington-Davies, Robinson,
CM: Doyle*, Arblaster, Norwood, Coulibaly, Osborn, 2024/25 McAtee type loan
CF: McBurnie, Jebbison, Osula, Brewster, Marsh, Sharp (6th choice player/coach)

That's still not a bad line up for 12 months time, fully expecting Ahmedhodžić, Berge and Ndiaye to move on and us to be more of a 3-4-1-2 to get 2 out and out strikers in there.

But who knows? Maybe we stay up!

As we have Lowe already who isn't good enough for the PL and I think there's several better in the Championship, we don't need to keep Stevens at 32 and is worse than Lowe and injury prone!

Fleck has a greater shout to stay than Stevens but that's not much to shout about, and again hasn't played consistently at his best for over two years and that's probably because he's just past his best now. As I've said before, if the first choice gets injured just after the window closes and Stevens is back up then we're really not going to be good enough next season. I'd like to have some chance of staying up next season because those are coming up with us are not the likes of Villa, Leeds and Fulham as has recently been the case, so there is a genuine chance at staying up next season in my view but not if we're going with this season's team and having McBurnie up top in the PL and I've just noticed you've omitted Ndiaye, Anel and Berge, if that's the case that we sell them and go with the remaining squad without replacing them with similar quality then I would say we'll be set for less than15 points next season! If those three go and we get say circa £50-£60m for them collectively than I'd fully expect that to be put on another striker and midfielder and RCB whereas in your squad in a years time you've put no replacement for Berge or Ndiaye; that would be woefully inadequate next season as Osula and Jebbo aren't ready, McBurnie isn't good enough for the PL and the midfield would rely on two Man City loans again who won't be around in a years time unless we sign one of them permanently this summer; I can't see both coming permanently.

We also need sellable assets to come down with next summer, so if we sign some decent players this summer then we can sell one or two of them and reinvest in the team like Burnley have done

There's realistic and then there's doing what Norwich have done and as we've seen with them, eventually you don't bounce back to the PL and then they're just a run of the mill Championship club. If we're saving cash to spend £50m on the training ground I could accept it, but I really don't think that'll happen either over the next season. It's like all plans involving spending cash are on hold (and have been for 7 or so months) and we got away with it last season because we had a decent team and management and granted we rejected offers, so fair play there. But we need to start planning for improvements on and off the pitch now.

 

[Booker4]

Hecky is a realist. It’s one of the reasons he needs clarity now. As a ‘development club’ he knows we have players who will be out of contract fact. He knows all the loan players will be going back, and he could end up having to replace Ndiaye, Berge, Ahmedhodzic as well as Doyle and McAtee. That is a big ask for any manager.
The Prince has made it clear that he needs to sell the club. He has the option to cash in on some players and show a very sound balance sheet, or keep those players as the spine of an attractive EPL club?
Hecky will carry on whatever the Prince decides. His interests have never changed. Play to win, whichever league we are in and whatever players he has left to do it with. The subject of out of contract players can only be dealt with when PH has clarity.

I think we will end up trying to do half and half. Sell one of the star assets, and make do with the rest.

Baldock and Bogle, both firing, represent a good balance on the right. Who fills the same slots at LWB?
The same problem exists in midfield, with Doyle and McAtee gone, and Norwood in decline?

In the end, Hecky will have the problem left by whatever decision the Prince makes. Nothing changes for PH. Do the best you can, with whatever is left? Individual players only come into it when the big decisions are made. As supporters, all we have is different opinions.

As I said just above, we do need to invest in the team, buy some decent players who are young and we can develop and then have more assets to the squad. I fully expect us to bring in some permanent players this summer even if there's not many. If we just go with this season's squad and sell Ndiaye and sign a loan replacement and a few cheaper signings for competition then it's going to be a depressing season for all of us, not least the players.

 

[Hillsboro Blade]

Who

Who will you be annoyed at?

I’ll be annoyed at the Management and Board Room if we’re giving extended contracts to players obviously past their peak. No detriment to them, but I’d just like to see those wages given to up and coming talented young players who we will need going forward.

 

[jt64]

Some big disrespect being shown to players who have just got us promotion to the Prem. Forest have shown that wholesale changes doesn’t work as the team doesn’t have time to gel.

Forest were also forced to make wholesale changes because they had 834768095376 players in on loan last year. They went a tad overboard with the numbers that they signed, but they definitely needed to sign effectively half a starting XI