POLL Pt. 2: Done sale

[Grecian2000]

Can't be arsed with another poll so I'll spell it out here.

NO.

Our history is littered with selling our best players (always "good business" apparently), replacing them with inferior ones and sliding down the leagues. Until I'm sure we are in a Bassett selling Beagrie and getting in Deane/Agana scenario it will worry the crap out of me if our best players depart.
If you don't want to delve too deep into the past try last summer and selling our best CB.

 

[raul]

c) Samantha Mumba.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Thank god somebody on this forum seems to have some sense. Done is not even worth £1m let alone £2.5m. Itsinyerblood is too focused on what has happened in the past and too narrow-minded to even consider anything happening in the future that is different from the past. Just because we haven't found replacements for players in the past, to him that automatically causes the future to become the same and that's the reason for the un-willing nature to sell, unbelievable. Like you say, if the club can't find a replacement for Done for £2.5m in division 3, we need to seriously evaluate our scouting.

It's reassuring to see so many posters on side with the idea of keeping a good player for a change. It seems that the hunger to be active in the transfer market blinds some people to the realities of what the market has to offer. The assumption that a better player will be available just shows how frazzled this thinking is. If a better player is available, then buy him to play alongside our existing best player, that's referred to as strengthening our squad. As the OP goes, it was a nonsense suggestion, one that shows that supporter gossip should remain on the terraces where it belongs.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Pt.2 of settling a debate with fellow blade 'metalblade' (don't know how to link user).

I am saying that I'd reluctantly sell Murphy for £5m and Done for £2.5m, especially now we have Adkins and a seemingly top scout on board to find top players with the £7.5m we achieve. He disagrees. I am just really curious who would agree with me, and who would disagree.

We got three c/h's in mind?

 

[super_pig]

Selling the family silver has got SUFC precisely nowhere over the last 48 years. For me, build a team around the better players, don't sell 'um

AMEN
are you reading this Kevin??

 

[Bath Blade]

I'd shag him for a million, if that's what you mean?


UTB

He's a wealthy man, being a footballer, so he'd probably want more than a million.

 

[grafikhaus]

I reckon any forward worth his salt will want to move to the Championship.

So that's Done away, then!

Seriously, it's all hypothetical but - as we all know - selling our best players over the past decades, let alone years, has landed us precisely where we are now. Liverpool are a stark example of grabbing the money and then squandering it on far less talents in order to placate the fans.

Anyway, and as I've said before, if JM and Done go, we'll never get to know the fees so it's pointless speculating.

 

[itsinyerblood]

So that's Done away, then!

Seriously, it's all hypothetical but - as we all know - selling our best players over the past decades, let alone years, has landed us precisely where we are now. Liverpool are a stark example of grabbing the money and then squandering it on far less talents in order to placate the fans.

Anyway, and as I've said before, if JM and Done go, we'll never get to know the fees so it's pointless speculating.

I agree graf. My point about an available player is as follows; if he's got potential, and goalscorers are always at a premium, they'll probably look beyond this division. Fortunately, our best players are contracted to us, and hopefully, under Adkins we'll be promotion contenders this year, and then all this crap will fade away.....at least until the next bout of supporter frenzy.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

It's reassuring to see so many posters on side with the idea of keeping a good player for a change. It seems that the hunger to be active in the transfer market blinds some people to the realities of what the market has to offer. The assumption that a better player will be available just shows how frazzled this thinking is. If a better player is available, then buy him to play alongside our existing best player, that's referred to as strengthening our squad. As the OP goes, it was a nonsense suggestion, one that shows that supporter gossip should remain on the terraces where it belongs.

All players have a selling valuation in football . Matt Done age is 26 , his pedigree is Rochdale , Barnsley , Rochdale , Sheffield United . This , if truth be told , isn't all that impressive IMO . However you have to speculate to accumulate and IMO , at this moment in time , i would NOT sell him .

It is better the devil you know , than you don't know , and the aim this season is promotion.

Psychologically selling your better players ( even with money in the bank , or to pay off debt ) , always back fires and does have a adverse affect .

To move this club forward - the strategy has to be ,NOT to sell any player , whatever the price .

Purchase quality to play and partner quality , already at the club = success.

UTB

 

[Sheff de party]

Pt.2 of settling a debate with fellow blade 'metalblade' (don't know how to link user).

I am saying that I'd reluctantly sell Murphy for £5m and Done for £2.5m, especially now we have Adkins and a seemingly top scout on board to find top players with the £7.5m we achieve. He disagrees. I am just really curious who would agree with me, and who would disagree.

If you want to tag metalblade, just write something like:

"I think McCabe has done a lot for United."

He'll be on you with the power of a thousands suns within minutes

 

[itsinyerblood]

All players have a selling valuation in football . Matt Done age is 26 , his pedigree is Rochdale , Barnsley , Rochdale , Sheffield United . This , if truth be told , isn't all that impressive IMO . However you have to speculate to accumulate and IMO , at this moment in time , i would NOT sell him .

It is better the devil you know , than you don't know , and the aim this season is promotion.

Psychologically selling your better players ( even with money in the bank , or to pay off debt ) , always back fires and does have a adverse affect .

To move this club forward - the strategy has to be ,NOT to sell any player , whatever the price .

Purchase quality to play and partner quality , already at the club = success.

UTB

All points I agree with.

Plus, and this hasn't been mentioned so far, if the chemistry of the team is working, the overall vibe is a positive one, and it's clear for all to see, then the value of said player has to be seen in that context. A very valuable part of a successful team in effect, it doesn't follow that a new player will achieve anything close to what the previous player achieved..........SO, with that established, having the dosh after getting rid of an established player, the difficulties involved in trying to find someone who will prove just as effective, these are the questions that seem to have been avoided. If they're not considered it won't matter one jot how much we receive for a player.

 

[Leonardo Green]

I'd sell Done at £2.5m in a heartbeat.

Scored a few goals last season but that could quite easily turn out to be a one season wonder. He has scored 30 odd goals over a 10 year career.

Other than the goals last season he didn't offer much apart from running around a lot.

If we were going to sell any of our so called better players, he would certainly one to consider moving on if it frees up funds for other players.

 

[itsinyerblood]

I'd sell Done at £2.5m in a heartbeat.

Scored a few goals last season but that could quite easily turn out to be a one season wonder. He has scored 30 odd goals over a 10 year career.

Other than the goals last season he didn't offer much apart from running around a lot.

If we were going to sell any of our so called better players, he would certainly one to consider moving on if it frees up funds for other players.

Leonardo Green, so what we currently have are "...so called better players"? You're not convinced by the likes of Done, Murphy, Brayford, Basham, or Reed? I suppose that just goes to show how subjective evaluating a player is, but if we're serious in our drive to secure promotion this season, we have to keep our best players. Otherwise all you and I will ever see is a club that might have achieved promotion turn into a loser's paradise.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

All points I agree with.

Plus, and this hasn't been mentioned so far, if the chemistry of the team is working, the overall vibe is a positive one, and it's clear for all to see, then the value of said player has to be seen in that context. A very valuable part of a successful team in effect, it doesn't follow that a new player will achieve anything close to what the previous player achieved..........SO, with that established, having the dosh after getting rid of an established player, the difficulties involved in trying to find someone who will prove just as effective, these are the questions that seem to have been avoided. If they're not considered it won't matter one jot how much we receive for a player.

Good points . Money don't buy love or football success. May be totally irrelevant , but getting £10m for the 2no Kyles certainly did not help us with success on the playing field ( were to me , it matters , as we are a football club )

Good players attract other good players . Simple.

Ok you get £2.5m for Done . Mitigate the risk of a replacement who unfortunately does not work , by not selling in the first place . Its all about confidence and trust between board and the football manager . Let us hope we have now got that first bit of the jigsaw right,

The CB scenario is another matter , but lets not fund this part of the team , by selling our best assets .

UTB

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[Newbury Blade]

I'd sell Done at £2.5m in a heartbeat.

Scored a few goals last season but that could quite easily turn out to be a one season wonder. He has scored 30 odd goals over a 10 year career.

Other than the goals last season he didn't offer much apart from running around a lot.

If we were going to sell any of our so called better players, he would certainly one to consider moving on if it frees up funds for other players.

"Other than the goals"? Is this meant to be ironic?

 

[Jehovah]

Anyone who thinks we would not sell Murphy for 5 million also probably sees dead people.

 

[super_pig]

I'd sell Done at £2.5m in a heartbeat.

let's hope the fax machine is broken.. we have a history of 'freeing up funds' by selling our best player to buy ten crap ones and then spending five years trying to replace them. it's almost pathological behaviour

 

[bladesmanluke]

Let's not beat about the bush here. If you want us to sell our best players to free up funds for a replacement that obviously won't be as high a standard otherwise he would be singing for a higher placed club. If you also want these funds to stretch even further to sign a couple of centre backs, you are, and I'm sorry it had to come to saying this word, retarded

 

[Living In a Fantasy World]

In half a season with us he has proven to us he is a goal scorer, I don't see why would we sell him.
Why sell a goal scorer just to buy another?

 

[Jon Bon]

Other than the goals last season he didn't offer much apart from running around a lot.

You may have a point. I don’t think Done has saved a penalty since he came here, in fact, I don’t really think he’s made any saves at all. We’ve had to pay a fortune to get someone in to put a new pitch down. Done’s been off for about two months doing nothing, so would it really have been such a big deal for him to get a fork out and a spade and chuck some grass seed down? And where was he when the board were up and down the length and breadth of the country, slaving away trying to find a replacement for Clough? I bet he never once rang KMC or Jim to ask how things were going or to offer a bit of advice.

So, apart from scoring a few goals when no other bugger could and running around a lot, closing down and running channels when no other bugger could be bothered – what has Done ever done for the club?

 

[travellingblade]

An income of £7.5k is insignificant, if it results in NOT being promoted this coming season.

Both Done & Murphy are PROVEN goal-scorers in this League.

Only if we are desperate for the money should we sell them, and ~I believe that PROMOTION is the first, second, ..... and ONLY priority for the coming season.

 

[Lane Ender]

Other than the goals last season he didn't offer much apart from running around a lot quote

Thats a classic.
Apart from the graft any half chance and its in the net.
Also he was carrying an injury for the latter part of the season.
Key member of the team for me

 

[Leonardo Green]

You may have a point. I don’t think Done has saved a penalty since he came here, in fact, I don’t really think he’s made any saves at all. We’ve had to pay a fortune to get someone in to put a new pitch down. Done’s been off for about two months doing nothing, so would it really have been such a big deal for him to get a fork out and a spade and chuck some grass seed down? And where was he when the board were up and down the length and breadth of the country, slaving away trying to find a replacement for Clough? I bet he never once rang KMC or Jim to ask how things were going or to offer a bit of advice.

So, apart from scoring a few goals when no other bugger could and running around a lot, closing down and running channels when no other bugger could be bothered – what has Done ever done for the club?

He doesn't contribute to the team other than the few goals scored last season. His first touch is average, he won't hold the ball up, he isn't a creator, not an exceptional passer so other than the goals last season which at this point there is no evidence to suggest that this is anything other than a purple patch, given the previous 9 years before last season then yes, i'd sell him, and for a lot less than £2.5m

But but but he closes the other team down so he's quality! Give me a break.

 

[Barney]

Come on, who brought this thread back to the top of the pages?

 

[DronnieBlade]

Would I sell either player ?

Absolutely not as it weakens the squad.

Commercial reality is that bids of >£1.25m for Done and >£1.5m for Murph would be seriously considered by all parties.

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[Barney]

He doesn't contribute to the team other than the few goals scored last season. His first touch is average, he won't hold the ball up, he isn't a creator, not an exceptional passer so other than the goals last season which at this point there is no evidence to suggest that this is anything other than a purple patch, given the previous 9 years before last season then yes, i'd sell him, and for a lot less than £2.5m

But but but he closes the other team down so he's quality! Give me a break.

Leanardo that's a dangerous post with all the Matt Done bodyguards on here. Everything you say there is spot on. I think what it is with these few people is that because we haven't had a goalscorer for a few years, it's clouding their judgement to the point where the first time we buy someone that's scored a few goals elsewhere, it makes him somewhat supreme and untouchable. Don't get me wrong he's had one decent season but there's no doubt we can get a far better, more proven and more experienced (Done used to be a left-back) striker for £2.5m.

 

[Jon Bon]

He doesn't contribute to the team other than the few goals scored last season. His first touch is average, he won't hold the ball up, he isn't a creator, not an exceptional passer so other than the goals last season which at this point there is no evidence to suggest that this is anything other than a purple patch, given the previous 9 years before last season then yes, i'd sell him, and for a lot less than £2.5m

But but but he closes the other team down so he's quality! Give me a break.

Go on, admit it. He's shagged your mum, hasn't he?

 

[blade too long]

I think Done has been excellent
but we are a professional football club and if we can make 2 million quid in 6 months , from a purely commercial view its a no brainer
of course theres the caveat that a similar or better replacement is needed , do we have one already
I think next season will see Che Adams and DeGeralamo come to the fore with murphy and others coming in , as is always said , no player is irreplaceable
and we could turn down 2.5 m and he could get an injury like Brayford and we lose both ways

As pros its for a league one club , which still includes us , the way to go

 

[Blade58]

if we are serious about promotion, which apparently we are, then the best players remain. I hope some small lesson was learnt last season with the departure of Harry, but somehow I doubt it

 

[raul]

if we are serious about promotion, which apparently we are, then the best players remain. I hope some small lesson was learnt last season with the departure of Harry, but somehow I doubt it

Agreed, but I think they'll have realised they're going to have to work harder on the strategic leaks and dissembling in order to paint the image that player x is an absolute bastard who we're well shut of, given the residual affection for HM.