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If Wilder Goes, Who's To Blame?


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That ITK accountant bloke called Darren claims he's actually been at a Chinese in Fulwood this evening.

Which probably means he's already bought a five-bed detached in South Shields.
Be about the same price wouldn't they?
 



Why would Wilder have the patience to wait a whole season to have a crack at getting in the top 6 with Sunderland, but not the weeks to get things sorted here? Doesn’t add up IMHO.


Stop talking sense. I tried earlier and thought I'd got away with it......
 
For me. For i took from the interview, he is a very competive guy who doesnt settle for average & he always want to improve where he can. On the face of wilder should be over the moon after the season we had as a newly promoted side. But hes never satified a trait, all the greatest sportsman have.

As a personal fan. He wants us to be back challenging for the play offs every yr like we were for majority of 2000s, try to make the premier league. Now thats a good thing & he only saying what we all think. long term wilder or not the next manager is going to want to spend the same money & i who i rather trust with £8-10m. we dont want to get complacent & end up like reading. Also every football fan of any 92 clubs in england knows football espically after Leicester sacking ranieri. Lets say mid january we are 22nd, wilder has hypothetically stayed the board hasnt given him the funds to "overhaul" as we can see we need at least 5 new quality players 1 or 2 in both centre back & striker to ease transition from sharp & Clarke.

Who gets the sack not mccabe or Prince. Wilder. Despite seeing this problem coming 6 months prior
 
Get thi sen on't twats thread or old pics thread then.
Obviously sarcasm aimed at the original question, with a splash of humour, doesn't get through to all.............unless the "twats thread", just raised its head!??
 
Why would Wilder have the patience to wait a whole season to have a crack at getting in the top 6 with Sunderland, but not the weeks to get things sorted here? Doesn’t add up IMHO.

If CW does go to Sunderland and they're not walking League One by Christmas, he'll find out all about 'patience' . From the Sunderland fans. And his 'old mate' the chairman.
Find it hard to believe this amount of negativity, popped over to Pork talk to see if they were the same, but they seem quite content.

With a 10 million pound striker who cant score and huge increases in season tickets and finishing 10 points (?) below a pub team.

I think some need a sense of perspective.

Course they 'seem quite content'. Who the fuck would be looking to poach Jos Fucking Luhukay? '
 
Bashar Al Asaba interested to know your take in light of how you feel about warnock and his faffing around with Portsmouth. I know it’s a different situation but... just interested I guess.

Point taken, but Warnock's Portsmouth dalliance was so well publicised (even in his book IIRC) that he might as well have put it on billboards. All we have at the moment is assumptions regarding Wilder. I hear Sunderland have said they want him? Well I want hair, a lot less fat and a lot more money. You don't always get what you want.

My point is, for the moment at least, NW's situation and CW's situation are poles apart. If that changes, I'm sure Bash and a few more of us will be having our say. Until then, I think cool our jets and see what happens.
 
These threads are like scab picking. I don't really want to comment but I can't help myself. Wilder et al are planners. They will have their targets for next season. If and it's a big if, he is not able to start taking steps to acquire these then I fully understand his frustration. He has talked relentlessly in his time here, of the importance of moving forward. If this forward movement is being hindered by other forces in the club, then he has every right to move on.
We will probably know more by Monday. Which is probably when I should have posted. Now off to find a tissue to stick on that bleeding scab.
 
Here's my thoughts on it. I am fully behind Wilder to be honest. What he said last Saturday came from a place of total frustration and passion for the job and for his love of United. Yes that has meant that it will have unsettled the players and certainly the fans but ultimately the bookies odds for him leaving is not the be and end all. One fans on here said Wilder is naive to want this situation sorted within weekend as it doesn't work like that with lawyers etc. That's a fair point but I'm not so sure Wilder is demanding that the ownership situation is sorted but more like he wants to know this summer as to where he stands with his squad building, which I'm guessing is totally up in the air because of the ongoing limbo.

I don't think he'll leave but maybe I'm just being naive.
 



If he leaves it's quite obvious he expects our better players to be sold and there will be no money to replace them. It might not the best way he's gone about it but you can't blame him. He knows next season will be nothing more than a relegation fight so why ruin his reputation with a shit season next time out.
Why is it obvious that players will be sold?

In which of the co-owners interests will that be?

Whichever of the owners comes out on top in this dispute they will be wanting us to be as good as we can be so I would expect some sort of mutually agreed development plan pending their dispute resolution.

I've worked with unreasonable bosses, through undesirable take overs and if Wilder decides to go it will be his choice and his choice alone.

I left one job after a take over because I didn't like what was going on. That was my perogative, Wilder is paid to work for SUFC irrespective of shareholdibg issues.
 
One fans on here said Wilder is naive to want this situation sorted within weekend as it doesn't work like that with lawyers etc.

This has been going on for many months if not all season...becoming public knowledge around January.
 
This has been going on for many months if not all season...becoming public knowledge around January.

Aye it has. I don't blame Wilder for the interview as I said. He needs clarity but maybe he's had some this week. I'm hoping we'll hear from Wilder today from Radio Sheffield's press conference and maybe we'll know a little more then.
 
Every time we put in a poor performance, CW has a go in the media. It's been the players, now the board, at least he's had the common sense to leave us, the supporters alone.

Is it ego or frustration? Probably a bit of both.

Is he deflecting the spotlight away from some pretty inept performances since November? Probably.

Is the boardroom situation an excuse for his possible exit? Absolutely not, show some class and dig in for another year of over achieving please.
 
Every time we put in a poor performance, CW has a go in the media. It's been the players, now the board, at least he's had the common sense to leave us, the supporters alone.

Is it ego or frustration? Probably a bit of both.

Is he deflecting the spotlight away from some pretty inept performances since November? Probably.

Is the boardroom situation an excuse for his possible exit? Absolutely not, show some class and dig in for another year of over achieving please.

You've clearly forgotten the interviews where Wilder admitted he'd been the cause of a less than successful performance. Sometimes, when we demonise a person, we do it wholeheartedly, no room for reflection, just a full set of biases or prejudices that give the appearance of being correct. If Wilder should leave this club, that's the moment when certain posters will realise just how fortunate we were to have CW as our manager.
 
Why is it obvious that players will be sold?

In which of the co-owners interests will that be?

Whichever of the owners comes out on top in this dispute they will be wanting us to be as good as we can be so I would expect some sort of mutually agreed development plan pending their dispute resolution.

I've worked with unreasonable bosses, through undesirable take overs and if Wilder decides to go it will be his choice and his choice alone.

I left one job after a take over because I didn't like what was going on. That was my perogative, Wilder is paid to work for SUFC irrespective of shareholdibg issues.

Wilder himself said we need to make sure we keep our best players if he is to stay. If he goes it would be an indication that he's not got that confirmation.
 
You've clearly forgotten the interviews where Wilder admitted he'd been the cause of a less than successful performance. Sometimes, when we demonise a person, we do it wholeheartedly, no room for reflection, just a full set of biases or prejudices that give the appearance of being correct. If Wilder should leave this club, that's the moment when certain posters will realise just how fortunate we were to have CW as our manager.

The club is bigger than any individual.

However, please don't assume I would like him to go or don't appreciate his achievements.
 
The club is bigger than any individual.

However, please don't assume I would like him to go or don't appreciate his achievements.

And this club is only as good as the people it employs. Poor decisions, mostly by McCabe, have seen us lumbered with second-rate, sometimes third-rate, managers, and when we find someone who is far better than any we've had in a long time, we somehow wind ourselves up in knots and create all sorts of mischief about their value to us.
 
And this club is only as good as the people it employs. Poor decisions, mostly by McCabe, have seen us lumbered with second-rate, sometimes third-rate, managers, and when we find someone who is far better than any we've had in a long time, we somehow wind ourselves up in knots and create all sorts of mischief about their value to us.

Couldn't agree more, the perfect manager and owner is a hard trick to pull off.
 
really ,who would drop a division , especially to go to Sunderland , a club mired in debt with a squad worth tuppence
A club that left Coleman out to dry with no support at all

If and its a big if Wilder is going through disillusionment with us why oh why would he go to a club that will offer far less encouragement

slightly higher wages are only a small part of the package

he less likely to get less funds there than here, to buy in players

dont see any appeal in going there at all, it would be a huge step backwards and hes ambitious so he says
 
If Wilder Goes, Who's To Blame?

More to the point how much compo are we in for and can we have season ticket refunds.

Then I'll go and 'support' a club with proper ambition and investment.
 
Point taken, but Warnock's Portsmouth dalliance was so well publicised (even in his book IIRC) that he might as well have put it on billboards. All we have at the moment is assumptions regarding Wilder. I hear Sunderland have said they want him? Well I want hair, a lot less fat and a lot more money. You don't always get what you want.

My point is, for the moment at least, NW's situation and CW's situation are poles apart. If that changes, I'm sure Bash and a few more of us will be having our say. Until then, I think cool our jets and see what happens.
I said before that no good comes of hypothetical questions. You say you want hair, less fat, more money. Don't even think of it - celebrate being fat, bald and poor, and you will be more content. In the real world, though, you could find out who ousted you as CEO of Crab Industries. Our lives are the poorer for that...
 
I said before that no good comes of hypothetical questions. You say you want hair, less fat, more money. Don't even think of it - celebrate being fat, bald and poor, and you will be more content. In the real world, though, you could find out who ousted you as CEO of Crab Industries. Our lives are the poorer for that...

It wasn't an ousting my friend. More a realisation that something had run it's course.

Speaking of courses, I finally made it past the Windmill hole in 3 shots this morning. Although it might have been considered a tad early to celebrate with my usual Happy Shopper Tincture of choice, the lack of anyone else on that bench at that early hour was a welcome change.
 



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