Poll Fellow relegation clubs are signing new players

[Houston_Blade]

And at which Football Club has that analogy ever been applied?

One with a sweet shop and a greengrocers on the corner

 

[Varkanoid]

Problem is we know what injury Fleck had doesnt take much to get injured in a relatively sensitive area and he is out for rest of season. Then Lunny gets taken out by someone lunging at him and we have Norwood in the middle and thats it.

It would have been nice to have had confirmed which two players Wilder put an application in for and got rejected though. It would give us an idea who/what he was going for.

 

[Le Cynique]

Fair points in the main, however I think it’s a bit disingenuous to correlate the lack of ability for average football fans on a forum to identify a laundry list of candidates, with absolute evidence that there’s nobody out there. If identification of the ‘who’ was that easy, multi-million £ recruitment teams wouldn’t be needed.

This is my exact point, though - people are spouting off as if it's easy, but clearly it isn't. As much as our fans won't like to hear it, we're still a relatively unfashionable team in a relatively unfashionable city. This, added to our wage structure (which I agree needs to be revised) and our current league position, adds difficulty to bring players in at the best of times; when it's the January transfer window the task just gets harder.

Any player who did come in would have to accept that they were likely to be part of a relegation squad, and that they might not even get a massive part to play in our fixtures until the end of the year. Covid is also making things more difficult.

I don't think it's necessarily a lack of will or interest on the part of the owners, but that finding players who represent value for money and are realistically attainable is harder than some give credit for. I agree with giving more of our youngsters a chance; if it's just bodies to fill spaces we're after - and realistically we weren't going to bring anyone in who would vastly improve the first XI - we might as well save some dosh and give a bit of experience to lads we already have in and around the place.

 

[S64 Blade]

Ok here's an analogy for you to explain.

A parent gives their kid pocket money once a week. They waste a lot of it on sweets last week and return for more.

The parent then says 'You can have some more money but only if you spend it on vegetables/books etc.'

The kid says no, and then nothing happens and nothing gets bought.

Does this analogy also consider that the kid has massively increased the status of the family and its wealth and by not giving them the pocket money, this may be at risk.

I'm not suggesting we should have gone mental by the way, but at least one of a CM or LCB should have been brought in on loan.

 

[HeySethUTB]

The teams who have saved money in this window, have a long serving manager, an identity, and a tight group of players that know each other will end bouncing back IMO look at Norwich. All of the above criteria we meet and I’ve seen nothing to suggest otherwise as of yet.

Fulham have spent a bit bringing players in, have players on loan, will likely change manager, and then ultimately have to find a new identity (way of playing) when relegated, the same could be said of WBA. My only concern is a potential defensive rebuild, because players like Egan, O’Connell and Baldock are bound to have suitors. Let’s see how loyal they are.

We will be entering a division that is likely to contain only a handful of teams capable of actually buying players due to impact of coronavirus on football finances. We will be in that handful.

 

[Roygbiv]

The teams who have saved money in this window, have a long serving manager, an identity, and a tight group of players that know each other will end bouncing back IMO look at Norwich. All of the above criteria we meet and I’ve seen nothing to suggest otherwise as of yet.

Fulham have spent a bit bringing players in, have players on loan, will likely change manager, and then ultimately have to find a new identity (way of playing) when relegated, the same could be said of WBA. My only concern is a potential defensive rebuild, because players like Egan, O’Connell and Baldock are bound to have suitors. Let’s see how loyal they are.

We will be entering a division that is likely to contain only a handful of teams capable of actually buying players due to impact of coronavirus on football finances. We will be in that handful.

The West Brom fans complaining about their window accuse their club of short termism. They've spent £10 on loan signings this window. Well worth the investment if you stay up, terrible waste of money if you go down. It's a gamble and one I personally don't think a club in our position should have taken.

And it turns out Kean Bryan is amazing anyway

 

[HeySethUTB]

The West Brom fans complaining about their window accuse their club of short termism. They've spent £10 on loan signings this window. Well worth the investment if you stay up, terrible waste of money if you go down. It's a gamble and one I personally don't think a club in our position should have taken.

And it turns out Kean Bryan is amazing anyway

Agreed. Spending money on players now is a very good statement of intent to keep fans happy but in the grand scheme of things it won’t have much impact on the end result. Similar to buying fireworks, the kids get excited 30 minutes later the Parents are thinking “Fuck me what a waste of money, suppose it’s spaghetti hoops on toast for a month”

And it turns out Billy Sharp has found his second wind.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Norwich City did'nt sign anyone of note last January.

 

[Snowflake]

Does this analogy also consider that the kid has massively increased the status of the family and its wealth and by not giving them the pocket money, this may be at risk.

I'm not suggesting we should have gone mental by the way, but at least one of a CM or LCB should have been brought in on loan.

Who would have been better than what we have ?
To bring in players in case of injury would be good, but why would a player agree to do that ?

 

[munksyb]

I wonder what salary WHU the Shammers are paying Manure for Lingard £50k + / week
We did this with Hendo, great player but no value to us, and in the end no loyalty

mill take the Norwich path with the squad we have when the walking wounded are back
Let’s keep our finances grounded in reality

 

[S64 Blade]

Who would have been better than what we have ?
To bring in players in case of injury would be good, but why would a player agree to do that ?

There's no reason why we couldn't have thought outside box and gone in for a player on loan, with a view to permanent in the summer. A chance for them to impress and it reduces our risk if it doesn't seem to fit.

Cooper at Millwall, for example.

 

[Roygbiv]

There's no reason why we couldn't have thought outside box and gone in for a player on loan, with a view to permanent in the summer. A chance for them to impress and it reduces our risk if it doesn't seem to fit.

Cooper at Millwall, for example.

But no Championship club is going to let their best players out on loan at this time. Why would Millwall agree to let their best defender go on loan?

 

[bakeblade]

A single player on £30k a week costs £1.5m a season. About he same as we’d get for actually winning the cup, I suspect.

Actually in your example we would only need to get through the next few rounds to recoup the spend on a 30k player. The bigger worry is that we seem to be scraping round for money after having 2 years in the prem.

 

[robbiez666]

It's worth noting that WBA, unlike ourselves, didn't really spend in summer.

There must be players out there desperate for games with the Euros coming up. Problem is, we have a manager who has seemingly little or no interest in European leagues. The only players worth bringing in were loan players. The cost of buying development players will be more than summer as we're still a PL team.

 

[S64 Blade]

But no Championship club is going to let their best players out on loan at this time. Why would Millwall agree to let their best defender go on loan?

Unsettled player.

 

[Roygbiv]

Unsettled player.

Even if he is they'd cash him on him. Apparently JOC was unsettled at the start of our promotion season. No way would we have let him out on loan though. He's probably their prize asset

 

[Le Cynique]

There's no reason why we couldn't have thought outside box and gone in for a player on loan, with a view to permanent in the summer. A chance for them to impress and it reduces our risk if it doesn't seem to fit.

Cooper at Millwall, for example.

That requires the player's club being amenable to the deal, the player themselves wanting to come and no other clubs gazumping us with a better deal (eg higher wage, closer to home, not battling relegation with a record low number of points). Again, it sounds simpler than it is.

 

[bartman]

The teams who have saved money in this window, have a long serving manager, an identity, and a tight group of players that know each other will end bouncing back IMO look at Norwich. All of the above criteria we meet and I’ve seen nothing to suggest otherwise as of yet.

Fulham have spent a bit bringing players in, have players on loan, will likely change manager, and then ultimately have to find a new identity (way of playing) when relegated, the same could be said of WBA. My only concern is a potential defensive rebuild, because players like Egan, O’Connell and Baldock are bound to have suitors. Let’s see how loyal they are.

We will be entering a division that is likely to contain only a handful of teams capable of actually buying players due to impact of coronavirus on football finances. We will be in that handful.

Who in the top league will be after Egan ? Baldock would be a squad at best for a few lower table premier league clubs.
As for JOC, no club in the top league will touch him until he is back from injury and shows the same form as he did in the first half of last season. He may not be the same player performance wise

 

[Stretch]

Well I have slept on it, and I am still of the opinion that the board have just served us all up a ripe and stinking turd for breakfast.

Hope the lads can do us proud tonight, and for the rest of the season, and that don't pick up any more serious knocks, because noone is coming to help them now.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

We have a small group on here who like to analyse every word and motion for a negative slant as a hint to Chris' mood and inner most thoughts.
Did Wilder come across as particularly annoyed or frustrated yesterday in his round of interviews because from my purely amateur position, he seems in decent spirits?

Given how he tends to wear his heart on his sleeve, how credible do we really think these rumors of a rift or funds being pulled by the Prince are?
It sounds like shit stirring nonsense to me.

 

[FMBlade1]

NURSE!!!!!!

You ok hun? x

 

[William]

The positivity and ambition the Prince showed when he took over already feels a long time ago. We never even hear from him anymore. I recognise Wilder wasted millions but to not bring in a couple of loans when we are so short in central defence and midfield is piss poor tbh.

I showed tremendous positivity when I bought my car on finance. I’m still paying for it now and it’s turned into a bag of shit. I can’t afford a new one yet because I don’t have unlimited amounts of cash. It’s all relative.

 

[S64 Blade]

Even if he is they'd cash him on him. Apparently JOC was unsettled at the start of our promotion season. No way would we have let him out on loan though. He's probably their prize asset

Are you sure we wouldn't. McCabe was still about after all .

 

[S64 Blade]

That requires the player's club being amenable to the deal, the player themselves wanting to come and no other clubs gazumping us with a better deal (eg higher wage, closer to home, not battling relegation with a record low number of points). Again, it sounds simpler than it is.

Crazy that West Brom managed to bring players in then really, isn't it.

Maitland-Niles would have been another I'd hope we'd have looked at for a loan deal, at least, but it doesn't seem likely.

 

[ancientblade]

Who in the top league will be after Egan ? Baldock would be a squad at best for a few lower table premier league clubs.
As for JOC, no club in the top league will touch him until he is back from injury and shows the same form as he did in the first half of last season. He may not be the same player performance wise

egan will definetly have premier league suitors this summer can see the likes of newcastle leeds or everton being in for him plus the 3 promoted sides 20m starting price though imo

 

[GymClassHero]

But we are so short of numbers in midfield it's ridiculous. We're also still in the cup, which earns money. I think it's a really poor move not to get at least one midfielder in

Agree with this.

Piss poor.

 

[dn5 shaun]

True, but it's up to the Prince to decide whether to release funds for certain signings.

For example if you were owner and you had the money you would cough up for Messi.

However if the manager said he'd want to pay the same amount for Robbie Savage... I doubt you would release the funds for that signing.

Yes we don't want 5 Robbie savages

 

[Bladesince59]

When Liverpool show interest in Davies we can't compete with our wage restraints.

Or any other PL side.

 

[Maidenhead]

No. Personally I'd have got a few more out ready for next season, including Lundstram and Moose. Maybe one midfielder to come in on a permanent or view to a permanent (Lundstram replacement).

And just how would you have "got them out" if nobody wants to take them on, and give them a pay rise to make them want to go?

 

[Maidenhead]

But we are so short of numbers in midfield it's ridiculous. We're also still in the cup, which earns money. I think it's a really poor move not to get at least one midfielder in

Agree with this.

Piss poor.

Any midfielder just to get the numbers up?