Poll Fellow relegation clubs are signing new players

[FMBlade1]

Fleck, Norwood or Lundstram gets injured who replaces them?

It's ok, we have a midfield of Ampadu and Osborne

 

[Blade1959]

According to Alan Biggs, Prince was happy to provide money for Rojo but Wilder didn't want him.

Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

Because as the manager of the team he wants who he wants not who the Prince wants! Rojo also wanted to return to Argentina so it’s doubtful if there was any chance of him signing anyway.
So you are basically saying that the manager of the club should not be allowed to sign the players he wants, but who the owner wants?

 

[alcoblade]

But we are so short of numbers in midfield it's ridiculous. We're also still in the cup, which earns money. I think it's a really poor move not to get at least one midfielder in

A single player on £30k a week costs £1.5m a season. About he same as we’d get for actually winning the cup, I suspect.

 

[Upton_Blade]

According to Alan Biggs, Prince was happy to provide money for Rojo but Wilder didn't want him.

Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

So just to confirm you'd have been happy to spend £2.5m of money we may not have or could use next season on a player that hasn't played for the best part of 2 years to replace a player who we already have and that is now doing pretty well???

 

[Upton_Blade]

Fleck, Norwood or Lundstram gets injured who replaces them?

Again spoken like someone who's happy to spend other people's money as it's not their own!

 

[bromtom]

Would have liked to have signed someone, I think if nothing else, it gives the players a boost - bit of reinforcement, worked wonders after Coutts' injury, we were dogshit between Burton and the JTW reinforcements, still weren't amazing after, but were at 75% vs 40% as good. We're also very thin in some areas.

However, I also don't think we could have got anyone that would've made much impact, we'd have had to pay them a lot and then they bugger off, so probably better to chuck the promising academy players in and hope they really take to it.

 

[FMBlade1]

So just to confirm you'd have been happy to spend £2.5m of money we may not have or could use next season on a player that hasn't played for the best part of 2 years to replace a player who we already have and that is now doing pretty well???

I'm not saying whether it was right or wrong, just saying what I think happened.

 

[FMBlade1]

Because as the manager of the team he wants who he wants not who the Prince wants! Rojo also wanted to return to Argentina so it’s doubtful if there was any chance of him signing anyway.
So you are basically saying that the manager of the club should not be allowed to sign the players he wants, but who the owner wants?

Whether Rojo was right or wrong for us I don't know, my comment was about what I think happened.

Likewise with the second point. I'm not saying it should happen, I'm saying what I think happened.

 

[Stretch]

Not bringing in a midfielder, at the very least, is fucking negligent. And with 51 points still to say for, you would hope he might have wanted to give us the best chance possible to go out fighting. Obviously not.

The Prince has just blotted what had been a very decent start to his sole ownership.

 

[BladeInIreland]

Not bringing in a midfielder, at the very least, is fucking negligent. And with 51 points still to say for, you would hope he might have wanted to give us the best chance possible to go out fighting. Obviously not.

The Prince has just blotted what had been a very decent start to his sole ownership.

How has he blotted it? By all accounts we spent over the budget in the summer. A loan would have been dead money like mentioned above. Signing a permanent option that is better than what we have given our position financially, league position and that its the January transfer window would be very unlikely.

 

[Blade1959]

Whether Rojo was right or wrong for us I don't know, my comment was about what I think happened.

Likewise with the second point. I'm not saying it should happen, I'm saying what I think happened.

Based on an Alan Biggs article in which he also said the Prince MAY have been dismayed at the the rejection of some of the names he allegedly put forward.

 

[FMBlade1]

Based on an Alan Biggs article in which he also said the Prince MAY have been dismayed at the the rejection of some of the names he allegedly put forward.

So what's your source to the contrary?

 

[SB_90]

Joe Willock Okay Yokuslu Ainsley Maitland-Niles & Josh Maja. hardly blow your socks off signings.

 

[Stretch]

How has he blotted it? By all accounts we spent over the budget in the summer. A loan would have been dead money like mentioned above. Signing a permanent option that is better than what we have given our position financially, league position and that its the January transfer window would be very unlikely.

We haven't had a midfielder on the bench for 3 games, because beyond Norwood, Lunny and Fleck we don't have any who are fit or good enough to play.

At the very least we needed another option in there, the very least.

It's my opinion, and I don't expect others to agree. But I think this sends an absolutely shit message to the fanbase, which is basically, fuck it.....

 

[bromtom]

We haven't had a midfielder on the bench for 3 games, because beyond Norwood, Lunny and Fleck we don't have any who are fit or good enough to play.

At the very least we needed another option in there, the very least.

It's my opinion, and I don't expect others to agree. But I think this sends an absolutely shit message to the fanbase, which is basically, fuck it.....

We did no doubt, but if the players hadn't fucked it first by playing like bellends for 15 or so out of our 21 games, I think he'd have backed him reasonably as he has done every window since he took over.

Also can't really blame him for suggesting a few of his own names with some of the players we've bought, hardly hit the ground running and really make a big impact do they, not since summer 2018 probably unless I'm having a brain fart.

 

[BladeTillIDie]

It's ok, we have a midfield of Ampadu and Osborne

Ampadu who's made his position at LCB? And Osborn who's injured that's only good at LWB?

 

[FMBlade1]

Ampadu who's made his position at LCB? And Osborn who's injured that's only good at LWB?

Twas being sarcastic, sadly

 

[BladeTillIDie]

Joe Willock Okay Yokuslu Ainsley Maitland-Niles & Josh Maja. hardly blow your socks off signings.

Sums our club up though

Twas being sarcastic, sadly

Sorry just some posts are mind boggling lad

 

[Roygbiv]

Mixed views from West Brom fans about them spending so much money when they're likely to go down. Basically the same as this place but the opposite way round

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[Sean Thornton]

Ok here's an analogy for you to explain.

A parent gives their kid pocket money once a week. They waste a lot of it on sweets last week and return for more.

The parent then says 'You can have some more money but only if you spend it on vegetables/books etc.'

The kid says no, and then nothing happens and nothing gets bought.

NURSE!!!!!!

 

[Sean Thornton]

Hasnt Rojo gone to Boca ?

Who?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Based on an Alan Biggs article in which he also said the Prince MAY have been dismayed at the the rejection of some of the names he allegedly put forward.

Biggsy. Okay.

 

[Stretch]

We did no doubt, but if the players hadn't fucked it first by playing like bellends for 15 or so out of our 21 games, I think he'd have backed him reasonably as he has done every window since he took over.

Also can't really blame him for suggesting a few of his own names with some of the players we've bought, hardly hit the ground running and really make a big impact do they, not since summer 2018 probably unless I'm having a brain fart.

I agree on a lot of that. I am sure we all saw a team that looked like shadows of themselves from the start of last year, until very recently, and I wouldn't argue that a lot of our recent signings haven't been sensational. That being said, I maintain that Mousset and McBurnie paid their way last season, because they played a huge part in keeping us up. And whilst Berge, Osborn and Bogle could have been better, they have hardly been disastrous.

I still think that we are generally well run, and assuming we do go down, will have a good go at coming straight back up. But FFS and to re-iterate, what does this now say to us all with 17 games left and a threadbare squad? The club really has now completely acquiesced, just as the team started to look half decent again.

 

[bromtom]

I agree on a lot of that. I am sure we all saw a team that looked like shadows of themselves from the start of last year, until very recently, and I wouldn't argue that a lot of our recent signings haven't been sensational. That being said, I maintain that Mousset and McBurnie paid their way last season, because they played a huge part in keeping us up. And whilst Berge, Osborn and Bogle could have been better, they have hardly been disastrous.

But to re-iterate, what does this now say to us all with 17 games left and a threadbare squad? I still think we are generally well run, and assuming we go down, will have a good go at coming straight back up, but FFS, the club has really just acquiesced, just as the team started to look half decent again.

I think we've signed (slightly overpriced) good players but a fair few bad players for us, which is probably worse than just signing crap players because good players that don't fit cost more than just shite players.

Moose was pretty vital last season I agree, and Bogle looks to be a good signing but the amounts we've spent on some players, is hard to stomach looking at what we've got back.

The worst signing I think we've made is Foderingham or Verrips, Foderingham doesn't know where the 18 yard box ends, and Verrips played less than 20 minutes and then buggered off.

Have to admit I've not been watching many Wilder pressers lately but he always looks quite chirpy from what I have seen, not the bulldog licking piss off a nettle Wilder we saw while The Prince and McCabe were fighting and he had no clue what was happening with the transfers.

I think he might have just had a look at the situation and told the Prince to leave it to be honest.

 

[Champagneblade]

Who did we miss out on?

Defenders
Davies - went to the current PL Champions
Colley - signed a new deal and stayed in Serie A
Lingard - went to a team currently in the CL spots

I'd say these were the most tipped players in this window.

I can't honestly say that we missed out. Us pushing our claim more would have not made one iota of difference.

Who did we miss out on who went elsewhere from our rivals?

West Brom -
Yoksulu, an inconsistent defensive Midfielder from La Liga mid table. Not what we needed.
Snodgrass, a 33 year old winger for a team who don't play wingers. Nope.
Diagne, no idea if he settles in UK quick enough and we have no shortage of strikers.
Maitland-Niles, another defensive player. Might have been ok but we have Ampadu. Much of a muchness.

Fulham -
Maja, we already have plenty of strikers and he last played in England in League One.

Brighton -
Caicedo, like he was ever on our radar!

Newcastle -
Willock, might have been an ok squad addition.

Personally I think if we'd gone for Reiss Nelson, without knowing a great deal about him it would have given some insurance.

We'll only feel it was a mistake if we pick up injuries this month.

If this can be avoided then we should have Stevens, Robinson, Bryan, Lowe all back fully for defensively plus Osborn to cover both defence and midfield and dare I say it, Rodwell. Already McBurnie got some minutes and Mousset is appearing on the bench. That's 8 that will shortly be in consideration. Then the following month, maybe we get Berge or O'Connell back.

So, not worth breaking the bank for and if we survive until the end of the month then we should giant some depth.

No criticism of the board from me this time.

 

[Foody]

The thing is premier league wages are so silly that a half season loan would probably cost more than a full years wage for someone next season.
Yes we're struggling in midfield now, but we have no idea how far away from fitness the likes of Osborn, Robinson, and O'Connell are, maybe even Berge.
Wilder and the Prince will know that, if they've taken a calculated risk that we get through the next couple of weeks and then players return, then I'm fine with that.

At the start of the window I think a lot of us wanted someone (anyone) new, just to change the mood around the place. We don't look like that anymore, 4 wins in January has changed that mood. Wilder looks like a different man in the press conferences and belief is coming back.

Pocket the money and prepare for life in the championship. I thought we might see moose leave, but hopefully he can contribute something and push his value up before we offload him.

 

[Le Cynique]

I’d like to know who these magical midfielders are who:

1 - would come to us on loan within our wage structure and league position
2 - would slot into our team
3 - would improve our squad
4 - would merit a place more than one of our youth lads
5 - would be happy to sit around and wait for an injury or suspension in order to get their chance

All well and good saying we need someone if one of our MFs gets injured or suspended, but who? Who’s going to come who can meet all those criteria? Saying ‘we need a midfielder’ as though it’s as easy as clicking your fingers is naive in the extreme.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

I agree on a lot of that. I am sure we all saw a team that looked like shadows of themselves from the start of last year, until very recently, and I wouldn't argue that a lot of our recent signings haven't been sensational. That being said, I maintain that Mousset and McBurnie paid their way last season, because they played a huge part in keeping us up. And whilst Berge, Osborn and Bogle could have been better, they have hardly been disastrous.

I still think that we are generally well run, and assuming we do go down, will have a good go at coming straight back up. But FFS and to re-iterate, what does this now say to us all with 17 games left and a threadbare squad? The club really has now completely acquiesced, just as the team started to look half decent again.

I agree with your slight frustration. Given the likelihood of losing at least 2 midfielders in the summer if we go down, and the current injuries, not bringing in someone seems bonkers to me.

We’re only a dash of a suspension here, and pinch of another injury there to have a starting PL midfield that would the best of us wince.

I also agree that it (whether intentionally or not) seems to raise the white flag for the season which considering recent results and 17 games left, is poor and demoralising. I only hope it creates a siege mentality in the players to prove those that have written us off wrong. Doesn’t bode well for the relationship between Wilder and the Prince going forward though.

 

[Isar]

I am of the opinion we save our money, wait till the summer and prepare for the Championship. There will be more time to shop around, some clubs will be desperate for sales.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

I’d like to know who these magical midfielders are who:

1 - would come to us on loan within our wage structure and league position
2 - would slot into our team
3 - would improve our squad
4 - would merit a place more than one of our youth lads
5 - would be happy to sit around and wait for an injury or suspension in order to get their chance

All well and good saying we need someone if one of our MFs gets injured or suspended, but who? Who’s going to come who can meet all those criteria? Saying ‘we need a midfielder’ as though it’s as easy as clicking your fingers is naive in the extreme.

Fair points in the main, however I think it’s a bit disingenuous to correlate the lack of ability for average football fans on a forum to identify a laundry list of candidates, with absolute evidence that there’s nobody out there. If identification of the ‘who’ was that easy, multi-million £ recruitment teams wouldn’t be needed.