Points begging for away games

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Ball_Sup (Phil) said:
I'm going to swear here. How the roaring Fuck are they going to notice that. It's a computer. You put the deceased Customer Number in. Have they got enough points. Check. Have they got a current membership. Check.....

(Robotic Voice) - send ticket to Carrier Bag Firm Towers...🤓
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If computers can control satellites in space, they can work out how many years a Sheffield United customer number has been in active use. Then again, we had issues with our fax machine at one time or another so you’re probably good for another 200 years.
 

PageHallBlade said:
not neccesarily i know of people who havent set foot in an away ground for years and just lend the number for the points
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Why would they want the points if they havent been in an away ground for years
If they were at all interested in going to away games they would have surely gone in the PL
 
It is also worth pointing out that the system in the ticket office has changed a number of times. And, what we Statisticians call "granularity" has been lost. On some changes, the new system just imports - 26,700 points (for eg) - as one Big Loyalty Lump. Subsequently, they don't know whether the points are from Tottenham away in 2006 or from Hartlepool last week. That makes the dead man's details Blag much easier to pull.

(We know that because the CBF who work in the ticket office have explained it to the rest of us)
 
Fatlad666 said:
Personal I would scrap the points system all together. Never had a issue in the 80s 90s or early noughties watching the blade's away. Whether it was Aldershot away or Colchester. We got our allocation they went on sale once gone that was it, and I have to say the atmosphere before during and after the game was a lot better.
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Indeed. It's annoying that these entitled points collectors, who just go to away games to amass loyalty points and bragging rights with their like-minded mates, are denying the true supporter, who likes to get pissed up, shout, sing, feyt and get pissed up again, from going to the game. It's almost as if 20,000 loyalty points gets you a voucher for a free Mogadon milkshake at every game.



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No one is ever removed from the SUFC ticket system. You don't have to send a Death Certificate in & a signed affidavit. Sure, maybe the dead don't renew season tickets. (Although in some TicketGangs they do). But, they still sit on the system. Just waiting for the next Blag. Look here's a start - if you haven't got a few Burner Customer Numbers set up, you're just playing at it. Get some extra email addresses, make up some birthdays, get some Burners.
 
Can anyone let me have their loyalty points for Fiorentina away in the 24/25 Champions League match up?
 
Just turn up, punch the fuck out of some kids kidneys and rob their ticket.
So much fannying about these days it's unbelieveable. Ya big basterds.
 
JackSUFC said:
Thought it was only really an issue in the Premier League. Can’t recall any arguments about it last season.

How many tickets do the club hold back for players to give out? Probably only happens for bigger games but Sky kept showing Gibbs-White’s Mrs in the away end at Forest. Thought it took the piss that she was there in a 2k allocation when many of us just missed out.
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I think - and this is off the top of my head - they have to hold 50 non-director box tickets back for players & staff under EFL rules.
 
dillis said:
Loyalty points system needs addressing, people have been gaining points since 2006 was it?
Just see the same faces at away games. Not fair on the young uns
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Yet the majority of away games last season went to general sale so there is plenty of opportunity for the young ones to go to games. Even QPR last season, vital game towards the end of the season, chance for a long weekend in London( or catch the late train home )didn't' sell out Watford this season didn't sell out . Isn't Hull now general sale? Luton sold out due to the small allocation. West Brom didn't sell out

Out of the next 3 away games, Swansea won't sell out, if we get the £5k allocation to Preston it will most likely go to general sale and Stoke will probably sell out if we still doing well and will go to the ballot.

It is a bit of a myth that the younger fan can't go to away games when there has been plenty of opportunity since the beginning of last season

I am not sure how you could address the points system. I am yet to see anyone suggest a decent alternative . Even a rolling points system ( e.g. points deleted after 10 years) wouldn't work because those that still go now would still be near the top .The ballot system is a good idea and, personally, if an away game is sold out before general sale, points shouldn't be allocated for that game( e.g. Luton)
 
bartman said:
Out of the next 3 away games, Swansea won't sell out, if we get the £5k allocation to Preston it will most likely go to general sale and Stoke will probably sell out if we still doing well and will go to the ballot.
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I don’t go to many away games but why would Stoke sell out over Swansea and Preston, is it just a case of distance?
 
Whiston Blade said:
I don’t go to many away games but why would Stoke sell out over Swansea and Preston, is it just a case of distance?
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Preston give us for all intents and purposes infinite tickets. Swansea is a ballache of a trip. Stoke is neither.
 

Whiston Blade said:
I don’t go to many away games but why would Stoke sell out over Swansea and Preston, is it just a case of distance?
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Swansea is a night game, 10 hour round trip, Stoke will give us 2k- 2.5k and it is a Saturday 3pm kick off( at the moment) and a short trip. Preston we will get the largest allocation of the season but it isn't that often we sell out there( we didn't last season)
 
bartman said:
It is a bit of a myth that the younger fan can't go to away games when there has been plenty of opportunity since the beginning of last season
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This is it isn't it, there is plenty of opportunity for younger fans or even newer fans with less points than others to go to away games, they just don't get the same freedom of choice that those with higher loyalty points have so they might not be able to get to the "higher profile" away games.

Having said that I do think the club should incentivise the less desirable away days with more loyalty points. For example when we play Bristol City it's a Tuesday night game, anybody making that trip on a Tuesday night should be rewarded with a bumper pack of loyalty points, say 50 points for buying the ticket plus a bonus 350 points for the number of miles they'll travel (there and back). The game is guaranteed to go to general sale so there would be no need to borrow somebody else's points and it encourages people with lower points totals to make the trip down and we might sell a few more tickets. A few of these each season and it would be easier for people to grow their points totals.
 
I give my ticket away whenever anyone asks for away games. Keeps my loyalty points up and allows someone to go to the game. What would the unselfish thing to do be? Say no you'll have to wait years before getting your points up then you might be able to go? The system should be changed but having a go at people giving their ticket to mates to use is ridiculous. Paid £400+ for it. If people wanna let mates use it to get a ticket that's up to them and not selfish at all imo.
 
There seems to be a number of ways around the loyalty points system for some. I know of a couple of people that run coaches who always seem to have tickets for the away matches if you book on their coach. I know someone who doesn’t have a season ticket or membership and goes to every away game 🤷🏼
 
Fatlad666 said:
Personal I would scrap the points system all together. Never had a issue in the 80s 90s or early noughties watching the blade's away. Whether it was Aldershot away or Colchester. We got our allocation they went on sale once gone that was it, and I have to say the atmosphere before during and after the game was a lot better.
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I agree, we are probably at a point that loyalty points need resetting across all supporters or the system needs changing altogether. Try and do that now and all the bigger blades™ will probably start foaming at the mouth about it.

Also, it doesn't help when the club switched ticket systems the other year and completely fucked up the loyalty points transfer on supporters accounts. FYI some supporters kicked off about it got given extra points on their account for that fuck up.

The system is a complete mess.
 
NuddysGloves said:
This is it isn't it, there is plenty of opportunity for younger fans or even newer fans with less points than others to go to away games, they just don't get the same freedom of choice that those with higher loyalty points have so they might not be able to get to the "higher profile" away games.

Having said that I do think the club should incentivise the less desirable away days with more loyalty points. For example when we play Bristol City it's a Tuesday night game, anybody making that trip on a Tuesday night should be rewarded with a bumper pack of loyalty points, say 50 points for buying the ticket plus a bonus 350 points for the number of miles they'll travel (there and back). The game is guaranteed to go to general sale so there would be no need to borrow somebody else's points and it encourages people with lower points totals to make the trip down and we might sell a few more tickets. A few of these each season and it would be easier for people to grow their points totals.
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I would be in favour of this but how do you prove you turned up and took that 10 hour round trip? If there is no proof the ticket purchaser and subsequently the SUFC account holder made the trip then this would not work. Otherwise you'll get people buying up tickets and not going like they currently do. Only way around that is photo ID and I'm not sure that can even really be done these days.
 
It's the same problem: no cut off point for points. Particularly home points which are a huge handicap for kids
My youngest is 17 and has over 47,000 thousand points. He knows already from our last excursion in the prem that he's going to five matches tops next season with his card if we get promoted. He'll go to 20+ this season.The ballot actually hinders him as he falls just below those guaranteed a ticket. They are essentially putting his "guaranteed" ticket in the ballot a lot of the time. Season after season he does the vast majority of games only to get a fuck off tablet when the big games arrive. He never got a ticket for the Sheffield Derby games on his account for example. Luckily for him he has me - he's old enough to go himself these days. My mates dad also died a few years ago, and two others (regulars) haven't even been to a home game post lockdown. This saves me tapping an ex colleague that works at the club too often.

You can get roughly 5000 points per season which would set a new Blade with an unbridgeable ten/eleven season handicap behind established point haulers (50,000-55,000 points guarantees you a ticket). Outside the prem it's not such a big issue.
 
blade12094 said:
I would be in favour of this but how do you prove you turned up and took that 10 hour round trip? If there is no proof the ticket purchaser and subsequently the SUFC account holder made the trip then this would not work. Otherwise you'll get people buying up tickets and not going like they currently do. Only way around that is photo ID and I'm not sure that can even really be done these days.
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Tickets aren't cheap, if people wanted to spend £30+ just to get an extra 400 points then let them do it but I don't think there would be too many people who would just chuck their money away like that.
 
Nick Jansky said:
Short in terms of mileage, maybe. But when you go there you are actually travelling to a different dimension in an entirely different time.
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Then there's the measurable shriveling of the soul / sapping of the life force that comes from spending 2 hours inside their godawful ground. Add in the dismal traipse to and fro across the wasteland where you leave the car, and Stoke City is one of the most dispiriting away days of the season.

When you go to Port Vale, at least you get zombies chucking rocks and stuff.
 

Swansea away on a Tuesday night is all ticket, we won't sell 1971 tickets for that, so there is a good opportunity for supporters who can make the trip, followed by Preston 4 days later, where we should also get a big allocation. There are games out there where you can build up loyalty points. Will be at both see you all there
 
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