Please now shut up about Evans......

[Bladesway]

Some fans say Evans looked dangerous for the first 15/20 minutes today, he looked sharp, was strong and his runs were impressive. Screams start about not signing him or upsetting team morale. Now Wilder could have him forced on him. Dear me.

This is my point, if we want him then go and sign him, but let it be Wilders decisions not the mob rule.

 

[YES Blade]

This is my point, if we want him then go and sign him, but let it be Wilders decisions not the mob rule.

One thing I am 100% certain about is that Wilder will not be signing any player based on the views of fans.

 

[davidblade]

I am sick and I know many others are too, about this constant talk about Evans.....fact is he is irrelevant.....he cost us promotion, regardless of the court decision his behaviour was a disgrace and we move on....the team is better....if you have an Evans obsession - support Chesterfield........great result today blades we are looking the real deal....COYRAWW!!!

Why perpetuate it then, shut and just support the blades!

 

[@thelane]

Why perpetuate it then, shut and just support the blades!

Needed saying...I will thanks

 

[wizadry]

Needed saying...I will thanks

If I want to talk about a footballer who used to play for the Blades on a Blades forum then I will, luckily for you I don't but I just thought i'd say that, thanks!

 

[Cerberus Blade]

I am sick and I know many others are too, about this constant talk about Evans.....fact is he is irrelevant.....he cost us promotion, regardless of the court decision his behaviour was a disgrace and we move on....the team is better....if you have an Evans obsession - support Chesterfield........great result today blades we are looking the real deal....COYRAWW!!!

Tough titty mate. These forums are places where people can come and freely express their opinion. I have an opinion that Evans didn't cost us promotion and that people who want to blame him for that are like little children lashing out at something or someone when things don't go their way. There's no doubt that losing Evans was a big blow, but no one player can be blamed for a club with 30+ professional footballers in it not getting promoted. As for his behaviour being a disgrace - well...he was an idiot to get caught up in something like that for sure. He certainly disgraced himself in terms of his girlfriend and family. But I don't think having a threesome is a disgraceful thing to do personally. In fact I think it's jolly good fun between consenting adults - you ought to try it sometime if you get a chance! I wish I still had the chance - but it's something I did many years ago as a young student - and I wasn't the only one - but since then I got married and I've not managed to persuade the old boiler to partake in any of that stuff unfortunately.

Anyhow, whatever our views on Evans behaviour, it's not a reason why I wouldn't want him to play for my club - I think what Marlon King did, groping girls in public and then smashing their face in when they objected, is far worse. I don't see why anyone should feel unable to talk about Ched Evans on here on anyone else.

The facts are, he's still a very good player. Considering the length of absence he's had from the game he looks remarkably fit. He's not 100% yet and of course he's 3 years older than what he was when he last played professionally, but he's still good, even at this level of fitness - and that will only get better.

I was disappointed Sheffield United didn't sign him once his sentence was quashed. At that point he was an innocent man awaiting a re-trial. We could have, should have, offered him a contract in the same way that Chesterfield did, with a get-out clause in case the re-trial found him guilty. That was a smart move by Danny Wilson (the man with an Owl tattoo on his leg according to some).

It is worth continuing this tale about Ched because, whether you like it or not, this is not going to go away. You may have heard that Dave Allen resigned from Chesterfield football club yesterday. This is a highly significant event for Chesterfield and for football in general, because Allen is owed a lot of money and Chesterfield haven't got any. Within a few weeks they will run out of money to pay the players wages. There is a real risk that they will not just go into administration, but go bust altogether. Players will need to be sold, quickly and on perhaps on the cheap. Chesterfield have 2 or 3 players that I think would benefit Sheffield United - and Evans is one.

Sorry to disappoint you owd lad, but, I strongly suspect you're going to be hearing a lot more about Evans over the coming weeks.

 

[@thelane]

Tough titty mate. These forums are places where people can come and freely express their opinion. I have an opinion that Evans didn't cost us promotion and that people who want to blame him for that are like little children lashing out at something or someone when things don't go their way. There's no doubt that losing Evans was a big blow, but no one player can be blamed for a club with 30+ professional footballers in it not getting promoted. As for his behaviour being a disgrace - well...he was an idiot to get caught up in something like that for sure. He certainly disgraced himself in terms of his girlfriend and family. But I don't think having a threesome is a disgraceful thing to do personally. In fact I think it's jolly good fun between consenting adults - you ought to try it sometime if you get a chance! I wish I still had the chance - but it's something I did many years ago as a young student - and I wasn't the only one - but since then I got married and I've not managed to persuade the old boiler to partake in any of that stuff unfortunately.

Anyhow, whatever our views on Evans behaviour, it's not a reason why I wouldn't want him to play for my club - I think what Marlon King did, groping girls in public and then smashing their face in when they objected, is far worse. I don't see why anyone should feel unable to talk about Ched Evans on here on anyone else.

The facts are, he's still a very good player. Considering the length of absence he's had from the game he looks remarkably fit. He's not 100% yet and of course he's 3 years older than what he was when he last played professionally, but he's still good, even at this level of fitness - and that will only get better.

I was disappointed Sheffield United didn't sign him once his sentence was quashed. At that point he was an innocent man awaiting a re-trial. We could have, should have, offered him a contract in the same way that Chesterfield did, with a get-out clause in case the re-trial found him guilty. That was a smart move by Danny Wilson (the man with an Owl tattoo on his leg according to some).

It is worth continuing this tale about Ched because, whether you like it or not, this is not going to go away. You may have heard that Dave Allen resigned from Chesterfield football club yesterday. This is a highly significant event for Chesterfield and for football in general, because Allen is owed a lot of money and Chesterfield haven't got any. Within a few weeks they will run out of money to pay the players wages. There is a real risk that they will not just go into administration, but go bust altogether. Players will need to be sold, quickly and on perhaps on the cheap. Chesterfield have 2 or 3 players that I think would benefit Sheffield United - and Evans is one.

Sorry to disappoint you owd lad, but, I strongly suspect you're going to be hearing a lot more about Evans over the coming weeks.

Cerberus Blade, you make some good points, however for me he is history, if he came back he would be a one man distraction and for the first time in a long time we are playing as a team...no big time Charlie's and the press are reporting on us for the right reasons.

 

[Esablade]

...based purely on his skill as a footballer, you could see Evans on the market and one of our rivals, say Scunny, buying him to replace Morris in Jan...

 

[Rodders]

Tough titty mate. These forums are places where people can come and freely express their opinion. I have an opinion that Evans didn't cost us promotion and that people who want to blame him for that are like little children lashing out at something or someone when things don't go their way. There's no doubt that losing Evans was a big blow, but no one player can be blamed for a club with 30+ professional footballers in it not getting promoted. As for his behaviour being a disgrace - well...he was an idiot to get caught up in something like that for sure. He certainly disgraced himself in terms of his girlfriend and family. But I don't think having a threesome is a disgraceful thing to do personally. In fact I think it's jolly good fun between consenting adults - you ought to try it sometime if you get a chance! I wish I still had the chance - but it's something I did many years ago as a young student - and I wasn't the only one - but since then I got married and I've not managed to persuade the old boiler to partake in any of that stuff unfortunately.

Anyhow, whatever our views on Evans behaviour, it's not a reason why I wouldn't want him to play for my club - I think what Marlon King did, groping girls in public and then smashing their face in when they objected, is far worse. I don't see why anyone should feel unable to talk about Ched Evans on here on anyone else.

The facts are, he's still a very good player. Considering the length of absence he's had from the game he looks remarkably fit. He's not 100% yet and of course he's 3 years older than what he was when he last played professionally, but he's still good, even at this level of fitness - and that will only get better.

I was disappointed Sheffield United didn't sign him once his sentence was quashed. At that point he was an innocent man awaiting a re-trial. We could have, should have, offered him a contract in the same way that Chesterfield did, with a get-out clause in case the re-trial found him guilty. That was a smart move by Danny Wilson (the man with an Owl tattoo on his leg according to some).

It is worth continuing this tale about Ched because, whether you like it or not, this is not going to go away. You may have heard that Dave Allen resigned from Chesterfield football club yesterday. This is a highly significant event for Chesterfield and for football in general, because Allen is owed a lot of money and Chesterfield haven't got any. Within a few weeks they will run out of money to pay the players wages. There is a real risk that they will not just go into administration, but go bust altogether. Players will need to be sold, quickly and on perhaps on the cheap. Chesterfield have 2 or 3 players that I think would benefit Sheffield United - and Evans is one.

Sorry to disappoint you owd lad, but, I strongly suspect you're going to be hearing a lot more about Evans over the coming weeks.

Not go to any of the final 3 games of 2011/12? The team were completely shot.

 

[Ricky]

Just imagine if he signed for Bolton, Scunthorpe or Bradford for example. I defy anyone not to be frustrated and annoyed in those circumstances.

We should indeed have signed him in the summer. We even had Brexit to bury it under, as Chesterfield smartly did. Not that any of the reporting has been excessive or harmful to them.

Now Chesterfield are desperate financially we could also look at Ariyibi and Jon Nolan as well as Evans.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

I am sick and I know many others are too, about this constant talk about Evans.....fact is he is irrelevant.....he cost us promotion, regardless of the court decision his behaviour was a disgrace and we move on....the team is better....if you have an Evans obsession - support Chesterfield........great result today blades we are looking the real deal....COYRAWW!!!

No thanks, I’ll talk about him as much as I see fit and will also continue to support the blades. Do you wish to ban talk of other ex players? TC? Deano? What about if Lyle Taylor kicks on more and looks like he might be worth bringing back? Or Brayford? Will we be allowed to discuss that?


And no, he didn’t cost us promotion. He helped us amass a number of points that put us in a very healthy position by the time he was wrongfully imprisoned. The remaining players’ failure to finish the job coupled with a great run of form from the pigs cost us promotion.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Explain the constant obsession????... he's not good enough for our current team... he thinks only about himself....typical big time Charlie.

Many would argue that he’s better than Matt Done so in fact is good enough for our current team. He’s not desperately needed which he arguably has been at times over the last few years but he would still improve our squad and signing him would stop him from improving the squad of a promotion rival which is likely if we don’t sign him.


As for just thinking of himself, that’s a silly comment. He was a well liked member of the squad when he was here before and worked hard for the team. He behaved poorly over 5 years ago and paid a ridiculously heavy price for it. We don’t know how the rest of the squad behave in terms of their sexual conduct and don’t need to so long as they’re not committing crimes.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Clarke was quality when he came on.

Agreed. I hope he can sustain that level of performance and that he and Sharp can forge a successful partnership.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

I think if you go back and check your facts many were not pleased we signed him. Many thought he was a past it waste of space. They were right. He was also an awful human being which didn't help.

Oh and Evans behaviour did stop us getting promoted. Had he not done what he did he wouldn't have gone to court and ultimately jail. The events of him being jailed derailed a club that was going up. The team moral was blown to pieces by what happened. This isn't supposition, it is written.

It’s been said a thousand times. Without the trial hanging over him he would have been long gone either the summer before or in January when he was on fire. We couldn’t really afford his wages and couldn’t afford to turn down decent transfer fees if they were on offer. The Court case meant we had him for longer than we otherwise would have and that kept us in he automatic promotion race. Without him we’d have probably been scraping top 6 at best.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Pretty much every paragraph of that was nonsense.
He actions did have a massive influence on our floundering promotion bid once he was sent down - that's a fact.
Everyone wasn't pleased when we signed Marlon King.
There is no evidence he would add something to our side and didn't do a great deal after the first 25 mins, and hardly ripped us apart in those 25 mins.

I agree with the last 14 words of the last paragraph.

Got an assist.

Beat Basham several times.

Looked the opposition’s best player.

Came within a whisker of scoring

Had another good effort saved from a difficult angle

 

[1danewhitehouse]

He's yet to prove he can still cut it in this league, let alone the league above.

He's had one half decent season at championship in what must be 10 years ago?

I’d say 5 goals (and a few assists) in about 13/14 games playing for the worst team in the division suggests he can still cut it at this level.


As for the championship. He only played there up to the age of around 21 so it’s hard to judge him. 9 goals in an awful relegated team is decent for a 21 year old and without the career break you’d imagine he would have kicked on and become a very good championship striker. It remains to be seen whether he can still do that but I don’t think we’ll find anyone more likely for a similar cost.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Like I said it would be a risk, but comparing Evans to Sharp, Clarke, Done and Lavery, I've more confidence in Evans being a success at Championship level in the future.

Out of that list I think Sharp and Evans could be useful to us in the championship. We’d need at least 4 strikers so those 2 plus a big target man (Shipperly/Chief type) and an out and out pacey option (Kabba type) would probably be a decent contingent as they’d all bring something a bit different to the table.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

On what basis? Most wanting him back seem to base that on him becoming what he was for us 5 years ago. By that token he'll be total dogshite in the championship as he was a major factor in our relegation.

He has been total dogshite for a total of 1 season of his career, his first with us arriving as a 19 year old with a big price tag round his neck. He wasn’t total dogshite in our relegation season. He scored 9 goals in an awful relegated team during a season where he turned 21, missed the end of the season through injury and played under 4 different managers through the season including a spell where he played wide right in a front 3 under Adams. He was our top scorer. Nobody shone that year but overall, he didn’t do bad that season. Nor did he do bad for Norwich in the championship. And he was one of the best strikers this league has seen during his one season there with us.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Tough titty mate. These forums are places where people can come and freely express their opinion. I have an opinion that Evans didn't cost us promotion and that people who want to blame him for that are like little children lashing out at something or someone when things don't go their way. There's no doubt that losing Evans was a big blow, but no one player can be blamed for a club with 30+ professional footballers in it not getting promoted. As for his behaviour being a disgrace - well...he was an idiot to get caught up in something like that for sure. He certainly disgraced himself in terms of his girlfriend and family. But I don't think having a threesome is a disgraceful thing to do personally. In fact I think it's jolly good fun between consenting adults - you ought to try it sometime if you get a chance! I wish I still had the chance - but it's something I did many years ago as a young student - and I wasn't the only one - but since then I got married and I've not managed to persuade the old boiler to partake in any of that stuff unfortunately.

Anyhow, whatever our views on Evans behaviour, it's not a reason why I wouldn't want him to play for my club - I think what Marlon King did, groping girls in public and then smashing their face in when they objected, is far worse. I don't see why anyone should feel unable to talk about Ched Evans on here on anyone else.

The facts are, he's still a very good player. Considering the length of absence he's had from the game he looks remarkably fit. He's not 100% yet and of course he's 3 years older than what he was when he last played professionally, but he's still good, even at this level of fitness - and that will only get better.

I was disappointed Sheffield United didn't sign him once his sentence was quashed. At that point he was an innocent man awaiting a re-trial. We could have, should have, offered him a contract in the same way that Chesterfield did, with a get-out clause in case the re-trial found him guilty. That was a smart move by Danny Wilson (the man with an Owl tattoo on his leg according to some).

It is worth continuing this tale about Ched because, whether you like it or not, this is not going to go away. You may have heard that Dave Allen resigned from Chesterfield football club yesterday. This is a highly significant event for Chesterfield and for football in general, because Allen is owed a lot of money and Chesterfield haven't got any. Within a few weeks they will run out of money to pay the players wages. There is a real risk that they will not just go into administration, but go bust altogether. Players will need to be sold, quickly and on perhaps on the cheap. Chesterfield have 2 or 3 players that I think would benefit Sheffield United - and Evans is one.

Sorry to disappoint you owd lad, but, I strongly suspect you're going to be hearing a lot more about Evans over the coming weeks.

Nailed it.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Cerberus Blade, you make some good points, however for me he is history, if he came back he would be a one man distraction and for the first time in a long time we are playing as a team...no big time Charlie's and the press are reporting on us for the right reasons.

That’s your opinion on the subject and you are entitled to it. It does not give you the right to shut down discussion from others who have differing opinions.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Just imagine if he signed for Bolton, Scunthorpe or Bradford for example. I defy anyone not to be frustrated and annoyed in those circumstances.

We should indeed have signed him in the summer. We even had Brexit to bury it under, as Chesterfield smartly did. Not that any of the reporting has been excessive or harmful to them.

Now Chesterfield are desperate financially we could also look at Ariyibi and Jon Nolan as well as Evans.

For me, we should have signed him on his release (subject to proving his fitness and ability by training with us first). He would have been even better then than he is now and we might have been promoted by now if we had.


I agree Ariyibi is worth looking at. Nolan did OK against us but haven’t seen enough of him to form an opinion.


Their right back McGinn (out injured at the moment) made an impressive start upon signing for them in the summer. Given our need for someone to battle it out with/ lighten the load on Freeman, he might be worth a look too if he gets fit and in form again before January.


And before you say it, yes I know, multi-quote but I don't like it. Too chaotic on my screen.

 

[FMBlade1]

But without him if he had been sold his 20k a week wages could have been spent elsewhere, + whatever transfer fee we would have got.

If he went in July 2011 until May 2012 that would have saved us 720k + let's say 400k.

That's 1.12 million pounds that could well have got us promoted.

 

[BushBlade]

Tbf, whether he cost us promotion or not has no bearing on whether we should sign him now. The only things that matter is whether or not Chris Wilder thinks he's good enough, will fit into our system and has the right attitude and whether or not the board can find the money to sign him, in addition to any other strengthening Wilder thinks is needed.

 

[Hartley Hare]

For the avoidance of any doubt.

I did not approve of the recruitment of Marlon King along with a good number of others.

HH

 

[BushBlade]

For the avoidance of any doubt.

I did not approve of the recruitment of Marlon King along with a good number of others.

HH

I stopped going. Until this season I regretted going back.

 

[Not_a_Cheat]

I am sick and I know many others are too, about this constant talk about Evans.....fact is he is irrelevant.....he cost us promotion, regardless of the court decision his behaviour was a disgrace and we move on....the team is better....if you have an Evans obsession - support Chesterfield........great result today blades we are looking the real deal....COYRAWW!!!

Mate! If he had not had the court case looming over him, he would almost certainly have been sold with a number of suitors. As it was, the court case came a few games too soon and we know the rest.

He wouldn't have been the one firing in the goals for us otherwise, as to whether his replacement (whoever it may have been) would have is impossible to say.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

I’d say 5 goals (and a few assists) in about 13/14 games playing for the worst team in the division suggests he can still cut it at this level.


As for the championship. He only played there up to the age of around 21 so it’s hard to judge him. 9 goals in an awful relegated team is decent for a 21 year old and without the career break you’d imagine he would have kicked on and become a very good championship striker. It remains to be seen whether he can still do that but I don’t think we’ll find anyone more likely for a similar cost.

Without the career break I think he would have left us at the beginning of that season (we were cost-cutting at the time). From that point of view, the court case did us a rather perverted favour. Had he been found not guilty he would have left in that summer as well. But it was a good few years ago and he's missed out on those years of development. when he may well have kicked on and become a PL player. He might come good again, he might progress, he might not. As some have said, it's a gamble for anyone, and there will be those prepared to take it and those that decide not to. Whatever, I think he'll leave Chesterfield next year.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Without the career break I think he would have left us at the beginning of that season (we were cost-cutting at the time). From that point of view, the court case did us a rather perverted favour. Had he been found not guilty he would have left in that summer as well. But it was a good few years ago and he's missed out on those years of development. when he may well have kicked on and become a PL player. He might come good again, he might progress, he might not. As some have said, it's a gamble for anyone, and there will be those prepared to take it and those that decide not to. Whatever, I think he'll leave Chesterfield next year.

Spot on with your observations SEB, and whether Evans would return is debatable......but elsewhere the point has been made that if he came here he'd have a far better quality of player around him, and the potential quality of supply he'd receive might mean the difference between a so-so season and having a forward who could pose a genuine threat for us. Just a thought, and I currently need to be persuaded that Evans' return would be a good thing.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Cerberus Blade, you make some good points, however for me he is history, if he came back he would be a one man distraction and for the first time in a long time we are playing as a team...no big time Charlie's and the press are reporting on us for the right reasons.

I get you. We don't need any distractions I totally agree. I don't see why he would be a distraction though.

My missus is so convinced he will never play for us again that she said if he does she'll have a threesome!

That's why I want him back here!

(Jesus! I hope she wasn't thinking of her fat sister!)

No! Scrub that idea! I'll stick to my one-somes!

 

[Weasel]

Evans looked a very dangerous player for chessie on sunday, and i was pleased whrn he went off with a knock. On purely footballing reasons alone, id happily go pick him up and drive him over to the lane to get him to sign up for us. On a personal level the lad was guilty of acting like a thick moron who had no scruples or consideration for his lass that night. But he didnt break the law and has probably just served two and a half years in the nick for his lack of morals that night. He has already paid a heavy price and it is about time people got off their high horse and allowed a young lad who made a silly mistake to get on with his life. Ffs if his lass can forgive him and his infidelity then it really shouldnt be a problem for anyone else and for other people to have a problem about it. I repeat, he broke no law and is legally a free man. If u dont want him to come back for purely footballing reasons then fair enough i can respect that opinion. I might not agree with you but i respect your right to have a different opinion to me. But if you dont want the lad back cos he is 'tainted' in your eyes or cos he has done time...then really what your saying is that you dont want a player to play for Utd cos you dont like his private life. Thing is its his private life with his missus and shouldnt be of any concern to anyone else. The fact that he is now a dad and is married might also add weight to the possibility that he might now have sorted himself out, grown up, and learnt from his past mistakes. Still sod that, lets castigate the lad for ever shall we.