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Cyprus, thanks very much

Anyone notice that the 'Murphy money will be reinvested on players ' has changed to 'will be used for first team football'???????

So it's helping pay the wage bill not buying new players...at least we are clear on that now !
 



But we move forward, sharply, crisply.......... And two hours after that gem we dropped two places to 9th in L1, priceless.

Ends with a chest bump with my tablet
 
A lot of 'politician' type answers in there that don't go down well around these parts.
let's just have it straight John Bull.... I'm tired of all this spin doctoring
 
Cyprus, thanks very much

Anyone notice that the 'Murphy money will be reinvested on players ' has changed to 'will be used for first team football'???????

So it's helping pay the wage bill not buying new players...at least we are clear on that now !

I'm not sure he ever said 'Murphy money will be reinvested on players '..from memory it was probably always 'the team or first team' ....this is part of the problem...weasely words...
 
I despair at some of our fan base ,it's so easy to be abusive sat behind a laptop ,if they really have a greavence Front the board up and take your 3 year ban instead of whining about the past days events ,
yeah i'll come. when is the meeting ;)
right sizing.. that's a new one for my collection. i love spin speak :D
 
He did find players to improve our squad, but for various reasons - could be fees, wages, a reluctance to uproot to Sheffield, or a reluctance to drop down a division - said players didn't sign. The question is whether we should have identified 2nd or 3rd choices. Maybe we did, and they fell through as well. As people have said, there's no point in signing players for the sake of it if they are no better than those we have.

Phipps, KM etc want promotion just as much as we do. They don't have a hidden agenda to keep us in L1 while stripping the club's assets and milking it dry, as some people seem to be implying.

Pfft. You can fuck off, mate.

That sounds too much like calm logic and sound reasoning.

We'll have none of that round these parts. No sir.
 
He did find players to improve our squad, but for various reasons - could be fees, wages, a reluctance to uproot to Sheffield, or a reluctance to drop down a division - said players didn't sign. The question is whether we should have identified 2nd or 3rd choices. Maybe we did, and they fell through as well. As people have said, there's no point in signing players for the sake of it if they are no better than those we have.

Phipps, KM etc want promotion just as much as we do. They don't have a hidden agenda to keep us in L1 while stripping the club's assets and milking it dry, as some people seem to be implying.

I certainly agree that there's no conspiracy to keep us in league one and milk us.

However, I believe they want a return on their investment and want this with as little outlay as possible.

You can't run a football club like a business.
 
I'm not sure he ever said 'Murphy money will be reinvested on players '..from memory it was probably always 'the team or first team' ....this is part of the problem...weasely words...


Invested in the team ( or first team) as you say.
 
OK - in the absence of WHF here is what I managed to bullet point - took me nearly three hours (replaying and replaying to try and make stuff out so apologies if I got any of this wrong). RS questions in a piggy blue. JB in red.

Jim thanks for joining us – a lot of Sheffield United fans are getting in touch with the show tonight, getting in touch on social media. They are very unhappy that the team has not been active in the JTW. What would you like to say to the Blades fans tonight?

· Had hundreds maybe a thousand messages today. Has read through various forums.

· We hear you loud and clear.
(We didn’t hear JP loud and clear though thanks to RS)

· Disappointed in not getting our targets in the transfer window.

· Want to be in a spot that’s more confidence inspiring than the one we are in.

· This isn’t exactly the outcome we wanted.

· I think for those that assume it’s the end of the world that’s taking it a little too far.

· We can get to where we want to go but from here it’s going to take some effort.

· We’ll hear from the gaffer, what he has to say, this week and I am sure that we’ll all try to come together at the club to respond to our circumstances

· The furthest thing from our minds is to fob the fans off .
( Interrupted by RS)

Jim sorry to interrupt, one of the things that the fans have asked us about, look I’ve just had a tweet here from James, and he says that it was said that the Jamie Murphy would be re-invested and he says that it hasn’t. He says that this is a lie and a lot of Sheffield United fans are asking why hasn’t the Jamie Murphy money been spent on new players this window.

· I said the money from that transaction would be used in first team football, that’s where it is, that’s where it will be. It’s not a lie.

· We did try to do transactions this window. We didn’t get our targets. That’s quite obvious. That’s what we are all upset about.

· There’s no evidence of a lie, there is no certainly intention to deceive, it wasn’t a false statement. It’s not a false statement now.

· The money will be used on first team football. Other resources were available also to serve in this window. We just didn’t get our targets.

· And that’s not good. Unintelligible but think it was (Especially for those ????) who do that part of the work.


On that point we had a question from Simon who is a Blade and he wants to know essentially who does Nigel Adkins work with now to complete transfers, you know, in the past it was Nigel Adkins with Mal Brannigan , before that Nigel Clough with Mal Brannigan. Who does Nigel Adkins go to and say these are the players I want and who ultimately makes the final decision as to whether those players will be signed.

· Well it’s in press release we made - the personnel changes. We talked about the people involved there. That’s been true since then.

· We have been working to build a Technical Board that provides support.

· Certainly we are not as far along that development as we want to be. More progress needs to be made this month.

Is the communication at the club since those changes, is it good? Would you describe it, are people working well together?

· Oh yes. It’s not an issue in the slightest.

· They are working cohesively as a team.

· The people who are involved in the day to day know their jobs well and are doing them well.



In the statement that you put out it did say that promotion was imperative towards the end and when the club didn’t win promotion last season ultimately there was a managerial change. Is the club thinking more long term now, is that what we need to read from this JTW. Whatever happens this year are you going to be building for the long term with NA?

· I don’t think that is even a question

· We can’t be talking about changes there.

· We have so much work to do to get to where we want to be.

· Far from the finished product yet.


Have Kevin MCcabe and the Prince fallen out. Are you all still communicating as you need to :

· No. It’s absolutely fine. I have answered that several times today.

Where is the game-changing money, who runs the club and why does the club build the fans up for a fall.

· People have high expectations. We don’t set out to raise people’s expectations.

· We try to be careful about what we say and yet sometimes this is interpreted as not saying enough. Sometimes it’s twisted and turned into somewhat grander expectations than I had wanted.

· We are committed to taking the club up and investing sensibly and we have tried to do that.

· In the summer we brought in Billy Sharp and others, in the window before that Done and Brayford.


· Tried to do things that make sense

· We haven’t got everything right.

· We haven’t got to where we want to be for the amount of time and money put in.

· Nothing for it but to re-double our efforts, to build our understanding of things that need improving and to put our trust in those who we think can do the job.

· Board fully supports NA.


· Nigel knows where he wants to take the club

· Board supports the vision

· Shares supporters’ frustration that we aren’t in the right spot and not making progress we should be making.

· But we move forward, sharply, crisply and don’t give into the emotional part of not having what we want.

· There are things that we need to do better. Some things for some time. I am not happy we haven’t been able to deal with them.

· There are some positives, some of the results since December with a settled side have gotten better. Players starting to play together.

· Fully behind the gaffer.
I've given you a like for your effort, not for what Jim said.
 
...I said the money from that transaction would be used in first team football,

Paying wages?
 
We all know it's factually correct. That's not the point.

I know what the point is, but not everybody accepts that's factual.

The language used is often vague. That's why people misunderstood it. It seems to be still going on so it will happen again.

From the clubs point of view they'd have been better circling the wagons and going back to saying very little. They'd then just be accused of being secretive rather than lying. They learn nothing from any cock up they make, nothing.
 
He did find players to improve our squad, but for various reasons - could be fees, wages, a reluctance to uproot to Sheffield, or a reluctance to drop down a division - said players didn't sign. The question is whether we should have identified 2nd or 3rd choices. Maybe we did, and they fell through as well. As people have said, there's no point in signing players for the sake of it if they are no better than those we have.

Phipps, KM etc want promotion just as much as we do. They don't have a hidden agenda to keep us in L1 while stripping the club's assets and milking it dry, as some people seem to be implying.

As I say though, other clubs, including those next to use in this league, don't seem to have the problem buying players that we seem to face every January. The team is shit. If those in charge can't identify players who would improve it, you have to wonder what they are smoking.
 
As I say though, other clubs, including those next to use in this league, don't seem to have the problem buying players that we seem to face every January. The team is shit. If those in charge can't identify players who would improve it, you have to wonder what they are smoking.

Are the players really that shit, or are we just not playing together as a team? On paper, a team including Adams, Sharp, Brayford, Harris, Done, Flynn, Reed, Baxter, Coutts and Edgar should be ripping this division apart. Most of our signings have done well at other clubs - that's why we signed them. Apart from Wigan, our first team is probably the most expensive in the division. They can't all be shit, can they?
 
I know what the point is, but not everybody accepts that's factual.

The language used is often vague. That's why people misunderstood it. It seems to be still going on so it will happen again.

From the clubs point of view they'd have been better circling the wagons and going back to saying very little. They'd then just be accused of being secretive rather than lying. They learn nothing from any cock up they make, nothing.
Unfortunately Jim's latest interview is just as obtuse. There seems to be a big cultural difference in communication.
I read an article on LinkedIn last year about the differences in the ways the 'English' and Dutch communicate but it could have almost been about the differences between the North and South of England.
I'm struggling to recall specific examples but the crux of it that the Dutch are more literal, like us.
It has taken me a long time to understand the differences and as a northerner in the south I have been sometimes unaware that I have insulted by some southern manager speak, it just goes over my head, and, naturally, people often find it difficult to cope with my plain speaking 'bluntness'.
And that's just England. Factor in the different between us and Americans and there becomes a bit of a gulf.
Jim's style of communication may well suit the U.S. but he needs to understand he's not in Wyoming, he's in Yorkshire and we don't like twaddle.
Given the choice between his current ramblings with comments like 'we don't raise expectations' and silence, I'd prefer silence.
 



I certainly agree that there's no conspiracy to keep us in league one and milk us.

However, I believe they want a return on their investment and want this with as little outlay as possible.

You can't run a football club like a business.

The middle line is spot on mate. If it weren't then we would have seen greater investment like that lot from S6 are getting. Instead we're waiting till this summer to remove the dead wood and start again, which has resulted in the likes of Walsall doing better than us.
 
Are the players really that shit, or are we just not playing together as a team? On paper, a team including Adams, Sharp, Brayford, Harris, Done, Flynn, Reed, Baxter, Coutts and Edgar should be ripping this division apart. Most of our signings have done well at other clubs - that's why we signed them. Apart from Wigan, our first team is probably the most expensive in the division. They can't all be shit, can they?
Of that lot Harris, Flynn and Baxter are average L1 players and Adams and Reed are yet to prove they are any better than L1.
So you're looking at Sharpy, Beardy, Doney, Couttsy and Edgary as good players in this division.
Offset against a poor centre half, an average keeper and left back, a midfielder who's supposed to be box to box but gets a nosebleed when he gets anywhere near the opposition's area and Woolford.
It isn't really good enough.
 
Are the players really that shit, or are we just not playing together as a team? On paper, a team including Adams, Sharp, Brayford, Harris, Done, Flynn, Reed, Baxter, Coutts and Edgar should be ripping this division apart. Most of our signings have done well at other clubs - that's why we signed them. Apart from Wigan, our first team is probably the most expensive in the division. They can't all be shit, can they?

Why should they? Have they done it before? Have they even looked anything like they would threaten to do so for us?

I think some of our fans like to think our players are better than they actually are. I'd say Sharp and Brayford are of good quality for this league and decent enough for the one above. Possibly Adams too if he fulfils his potential. The rest, meh. Every team we come up against this year has players that are equal if not better than those you list.
 
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Are the players really that shit, or are we just not playing together as a team? On paper, a team including Adams, Sharp, Brayford, Harris, Done, Flynn, Reed, Baxter, Coutts and Edgar should be ripping this division apart. Most of our signings have done well at other clubs - that's why we signed them. Apart from Wigan, our first team is probably the most expensive in the division. They can't all be shit, can they?

I can only go on a) what I've seen and b) our league position.
 
I agree about bringing in quality rather than quantity. However, we have gone from bringing in quantity rather than quality to bringing in neither.

As for Phipps, he is a senior Board member so picking up the phone is the least he should do after yesterday's shambles. Then again, he talks shite so it doesn't really help.
But if the quality that has been identified is unavailable then surely we are right to not go and buy someone else who's not what we want but available
 
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But if the quality that has been identified is unavailable then surely we are right to not go and buy someone else who's not what we want but available

The problem is that people are saying that "anyone" would be better than half our players which is not true. A few weeks ago this awful bunch of players kept Man United out at Old Trafford for 90 minutes.

Call it blind hope, but I'm sure they can perform better
 
Does Jim know that in England 'we are fully behind the gaffer' is code for 'we will be firing the manager as soon as possible'?
 
The problem is that people are saying that "anyone" would be better than half our players which is not true. A few weeks ago this awful bunch of players kept Man United out at Old Trafford for 90 minutes.

Call it blind hope, but I'm sure they can perform better
..but they don't. And for most of them they haven't since Day 1 since they've been here. A one-off performance in the Cup is all well and good but the league is where the Club lives & dies - and this lot do not have the cojones to consistently apply those same performances.
 
I can only go on a) what I've seen and b) our league position.
There's more than just "quality of players" that factor into what you've seen and our league position, though.

Regarding "The Board" - Can I remind everyone that we were told on day one that serious investment would only be made once we achieved promotion?
 
Incidentally have we ever qualified for the Play Offs in 6th?[/QUOTE]

I think it was 1998 - we finished 6th, Sunderland finished 3rd.

We won 2-1 at home and lost 2-0 up there.
 
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Incidentally have we ever qualified for the Play Offs in 6th?

I think it was 1998 - we finished 6th, Sunderland finished 3rd.

We won 2-1 at home and lost 2-0 up there.[/QUOTE]

Well thanks for cheering us all up Echo mate.....
 



It is cheerful mate, remembering the days when Championship top 10 / play offs was our minimum aim!
 

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