Paul Heaton - Concert at the Lane

[Ricardo Mantelban]

I certainly don't want him to be cancelled or to do anything he wouldn't otherwise do to be clear as a result of this.

Even now it wouldn't be too late to say 'I should have spoken up and resigned about Marlon King in the way I did with Ched Evans' and that would suffice in my book, not that I think he does/should care what I think.

But how many “celebrity “ types associated to the Blades did speak up about King. I can’t think of any. And where does that stop for example do we expect Dave Bassett to come out and give a statement about such things.

 

[FMBlade1]

But how many “celebrity “ types associated to the Blades did speak up about King. I can’t think of any. And where does that stop for example do we expect Dave Bassett to come out and give a statement about such things.

Charlie Webster did:

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And for the record my criticism is not personal or particular to Paul Heaton, I made the same point about Jessica Ennis Hill previously on here.

 

[Ricardo Mantelban]

Charlie Webster did:

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That was after the Ched incident though.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

And if it was a moral stand he was making, why did he keep quiet and not resign when we signed Marlon King?

Maybe Heaton and King are mates?

 

[Ricardo Mantelban]

That was after the Ched incident though.

Sorry she did.

 

[FMBlade1]

That was after the Ched incident though.

Nope her statement about King was in November 2013.

 

[CrookesBlade]

Yes he was trying to milk publicity, using the situation to promote one of his concerts to boost his profile and image.

Sean Bean kept quiet, why couldn't he?

And if it was a moral stand he was making, why did he keep quiet and not resign when we signed Marlon King?

I'm not saying he's a bad person or should be vilified, rather that he deserves scrutiny and it should not be forgotten about.

Well we’ll never know for certain if he was trying to simply “milk publicity” but it seems very odd to state that as fact given it runs contrary to pretty much everything the guy has done in the past. He’s been putting on benefits for various good causes since the Miners strike.

As for the Marlon King comparison - Heaton said at the time he felt Evans had a right to rebuild his career in the game but it would be wrong to “walk straight back into the club he so badly let down”. So in there you probably have your answer.

Either way as a club and fan base we really should have put the Ched Evans thing behind us now. It was a shoddy episode in so many ways and it’s mad to continue a permanent witch hunt of those not 100% behind him or McCabe in bringing him back.

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

He used this attention to draw attention to his concert and boosted his profile and public image by announcing what he would do about the proceeds.

Show me evidence of him doing this?

You have again told me you know nothing about Heaton. “Draw attention to his concert” which concert was this? “boosted his profile and public image by announcing what he would do about the proceeds” not sure what that even means.

 

[FMBlade1]

Show me evidence of him doing this?

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Used this terrible situation to promote his concert and boost his own image by saying what he would do with the proceeds.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Tell me you know nothing about Heaton without telling me you know nothing about Heaton

I'm getting the impression this is personal for FMBlade1

Maybe Paul Heaton once stoke his girlfriend/boyfriend or he just doesn't like middle of the road quirky pop music ... Either way it's a rather peculiar hill he's chosen to stand firm on...

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

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Used this terrible situation to promote his concert and boost his own image by saying what he would do with the proceeds.

Heaton said he planned to donate his fee for a gig at Sheffield’s City Hall later this month to Sheffield Rape Crisis Centre and thanked the foundation for its “continued hard work” in the city.

Yes I’m sure he was desperate to promote a concert that had already sold out

God you speak some absolute shite at times on here

 

[FMBlade1]

I'm getting the impression this is personal for FMBlade1

Maybe Paul Heaton once stoke his girlfriend/boyfriend or he just doesn't like middle of the road quirky pop music ... Either way it's a rather peculiar hill he's chosen to stand firm on...

There's an irony here as I've previously been criticised on here for NOT calling out Paul Heaton:

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CONFIRMED Thread 'Ched Evans officially signs for SUFC'

May 8, 2017

http://www.sufc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/sheffield-united-ched-evans-3710797.aspx

Its finally happened after all these years, I've got a tear in my eye....

'Ched Evans has re-signed for Sheffield United.

Following the completion of a medical, the Blades have agreed an undisclosed fee with Chesterfield for the Welsh international to officially return to Bramall Lane.
A three-year deal was concluded after discussions between the clubs at board level and the player meeting United manager Chris Wilder.

The Blades boss said: "The signing is just one element of the plans we have...

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[FMBlade1]

Yes I’m sure he was desperate to promote a concert that had already sold out

God you speak some absolute shite at times on here

You can still promote a concert when the tickets have all been sold out

He used this situation to elevate/enhance awareness of him and his concert on a national stage.

His motivations were probably well-intended with the donation but he nevertheless he did milk the publicity when he didn't need to (compare and contrast with Sean Bean's approach).

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Heaton was completely out of the loop with all things Sheffield United around the time we signed King.

He heard whispers about something but misunderstood and ended up boycotting Emmerdale.

He got the wrong Marlon.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

As I said above, I don't think Paul Heaton is a bad person or deserves to be vilified, rather scrutinised.

The club's reputation in November 2014 was not in the gutter because we signed Marlon King in September 2013 (although arguably it should have been).

A one-sentence statement about King, even in late 2014, would have sufficed yet he was unwilling to do so.

It's fair to ask why.

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[ISZA ⚔️]

He used this situation to elevate/enhance awareness of him and his concert on a national stage.

Complete and utter horse shit

 

[Grappler]

I can imagine Mr Heaton looks at this forum and if he saw too much of an uproar about his stance (or non stance) on historic incidents involving the club, he would probably cancel the event. I wouldn’t want that to happen. He is one of us who like many on this forum has a certain opinion about things that may differ from others. Let’s move on and enjoy the music in May.

Do you mean that Noa The Lupa, who posts on here, isn't Paul Heaton (anagram)?, and if that is the case, are you saying that you are not the actor who the main star of Fantasy Island?

 

[Rodders]

Do you mean that Noa The Lupa, who posts on here, isn't Paul Heaton (anagram)?, and if that is the case, are you saying that you are not the actor who the main star of Fantasy Island?

 

[FMBlade1]

Complete and utter horse shit

In the context of the Ched Evans fiasco, he promoted his concert. That's a fact and cannot be denied.

"The term virtue signalling refers to the act of expressing opinions or stances that align with popular moral values, often through social media, with the intent of demonstrating one's good character. While the expression might sometimes be sincere, it is frequently used pejoratively to suggest that the person is more concerned with appearing virtuous than with actually supporting the cause or belief in question."

I do believe he is sincere about the cause of supporting survivors (which makes his silence on King compared to Evans all the more strange and unfortunate), yet I also believed he used this situation at the same time to demonstrate his good character and promote his concert.

If the tickets were already sold out why did he need to publicly say where he was putting his fee?

 

[Rodders]

Ched Evans always guaranteed to bring the weirdos out

 

[FMBlade1]

Ched Evans always guaranteed to bring the weirdos out

Its not his stance on Ched Evans I have a problem with, as previously stated I agreed he shouldn't have come back in October 2014.

It was how he went about it, and his comparative silence on Marlon King that deserves scrutiny.

 

[Guesty]

Do you mean that Noa The Lupa, who posts on here, isn't Paul Heaton (anagram)?, and if that is the case, are you saying that you are not the actor who the main star of Fantasy Island?

Fuck, this is like Mr Mojo Risin' all over again.

 

[Dkc]

Maybe, just maybe he thinks rape is even worse than groping a woman and punching her. Neither are great but one is obviously worse.

Groping and punching a woman is arguably worse than what Ched was charged with (and ultimately aquitted) - having consensual sex with a woman who was extremely pissed.

 

[Irv]

He was in the national spotlight and got himself on Question Time as a result of his stand on Evans.

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He used this attention to draw attention to his concert and boosted his profile and public image by announcing what he would do about the proceeds.

Why didn't he do that when we signed Marlon King?

If you knew anything at all about Paul Heaton you’d know he doesn’t give a flying fuck about his ‘profile’. Drinks in his local pubs in Salford, respects working people, is a proper down to earth bloke. If you want to ask him about this subject instead of banging on about it on here, then send him a message on social media and I guarantee he’ll respond to you with his answer.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Given that Heaton now has a concert to promote, I wonder how long it'll be before he calls out the latest United player with a criminal record in order to garner publicity ...

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[Rodders]

Groping and punching a woman is arguably worse than what Ched was charged with (and ultimately aquitted) - having consensual sex with a woman who was extremely pissed.

He was charged with rape you fucking wrong’un

 

[The Fox]

It is possible to be a massive blade , love the music Heatons created over many years and still think he's a bit of a nob at times.

 

[Irv]

I can imagine Mr Heaton looks at this forum and if he saw too much of an uproar about his stance (or non stance) on historic incidents involving the club, he would probably cancel the event. I wouldn’t want that to happen. He is one of us who like many on this forum has a certain opinion about things that may differ from others. Let’s move on and enjoy the music in May.

You can still promote a concert when the tickets have all been sold out

He used this situation to elevate/enhance awareness of him and his concert on a national stage.

His motivations were probably well-intended with the donation but he nevertheless he did milk the publicity when he didn't need to (compare and contrast with Sean Bean's approach).

Was it you that went to the Ched Evan’s court case or am I confusing you with someone else?

 

[Irv]

Groping and punching a woman is arguably worse than what Ched was charged with (and ultimately aquitted) - having consensual sex with a woman who was extremely pissed.

‘Yeah that’s mint, I’ll post that’

 

[Dkc]

He was charged with rape you fucking wrong’un

...and aquitted