Paul coutts v Ruby walsh

[Argentinemanager]

not sudgesting ruby replaces coutts in midfield, but both broke there tibias within 24 hrs of each other , the turf club medical officer has stated walsh will 100% be ready for cheltenham ( mid march ). I fully understand different sports , but jockeys put tremendous pressures on there lower legs. So are our management / medical team over playing pauls recovery time to take the pressure off him , may we se him this season.
For what its worth walsh is crap in midfield, anyway all the best with the recovery paul

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Totally different.

Valentino Rossi had a compound leg break and was racing within a month.

 

[Blade for Sale]

not sudgesting ruby replaces coutts in midfield, but both broke there tibias within 24 hrs of each other , the turf club medical officer has stated walsh will 100% be ready for cheltenham ( mid march ). I fully understand different sports , but jockeys put tremendous pressures on there lower legs. So are our management / medical team over playing pauls recovery time to take the pressure off him , may we se him this season.
For what its worth walsh is crap in midfield, anyway all the best with the recovery paul

Comparing apples and pears there I think. Even assuming the injuries and people were identical, which they clearly aren't, with a leg that is not 100%, a jockey can perform to a much higher level on the back of a horse than a footballer can running round kicking a ball and being kicked by opponents. You could for example ride a horse with a heavily bandaged and supported lower leg, clearly not something a footballer could do.
Let's just allow the medical team to do their jobs and get Coutts' leg, and almost as importantly, head, right.

 

[Argentinemanager]

Have you read about joe marler the england rugby player, broke lower leg and back within 3 weeks, puts it down to drinking blue top milk, coutts would do it and come back like fatty foulkes

 

[snootyfenooty]

Totally different.

Valentino Rossi had a compound leg break and was racing within a month.

Totally different is an understatement. In a sport where you could be dead in a split second a broken leg is classed as a minor inconvenience.

 

[elgoog44]

Totally different.

Valentino Rossi had a compound leg break and was racing within a month.

22 days, which is astounding, but they are some what made of slightly different stuff, plus although pressure on the leg a lot is taken away by the bike and which way the track turns and if it is gear leaver side, and so on.

I hope they give Coutts all the time he needs to come back to full fitness and everything in order, no point rushing something that they don't need to, fingers crossed he will come back next year and regain the levels he was before the Accident.

 

[carthesis]

This is interesting, especially as Wilder stated he "didn't require surgery":

https://www.drdavidgeier.com/tibia-fracture-return-sports/

This site suggests 4-6 months for an NBA player, although he also had a dislocated ankle.

http://heavy.com/sports/2017/10/gordon-hayward-broken-ankle-leg-fractured-heal/

Probably difficult to predict more closely than that. If it isn't a dislocated fracture; is a clean break and can be re-set easily, logic might suggest Couttsy might be at the low end of this scale given his otherwise good physical fitness and health etc. BUt then He's got to get game sharpness and general sporting fitness back after a couple months not being able to do much more than hobble on crutches, so basically tail-end of season. Might get him back for the celebratory last game (where with a strong fair wind, we might possibly be recouping years of bad luck and getting back-to-back promotions!)

 

[WhiteHawk]

Totally different.

Valentino Rossi had a compound leg break and was racing within a month.

Yeh but those guys are super-human.

 

[elgoog44]

to slightly side track the thread, the most remarkable Come back from Injury was Clint Malarchuk, Ice Hockey goal keeper, had his carotid artery sliced open by a skate and injuring the surrounding carotid sheath and jugular vein, lost nearly 2 litres of blood and total of 300 stitches to close the 6 inch wound, was back on the ice playing 10 days later.. 10 days after nearly losing his life! that for me is the most remarkable come back from injury ever.

 

[elgoog44]

Yeh but those guys are super-human.

they are, Lorenzo when he broke his collar bone in the Assen GP practise and went to Barcelona to have the surgery to get a plate fitted, back on the bike and qualifying 24 hours later.

Finished 5th in the race I think?

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

to slightly side track the thread, the most remarkable Come back from Injury was Clint Malarchuk, Ice Hockey goal keeper, had his carotid artery sliced open by a skate and injuring the surrounding carotid sheath and jugular vein, lost nearly 2 litres of blood and total of 300 stitches to close the 6 inch wound, was back on the ice playing 10 days later.. 10 days after nearly losing his life! that for me is the most remarkable come back from injury ever.

Quite simply the luckiest sportsman ever.

Not an isolated incident either, it's happened a couple of times. Can't remember the player, but some guy had his neck sliced and skated off immediately with his hands around his own throat.

 

[elgoog44]

Quite simply the luckiest sportsman ever.

Not an isolated incident either, it's happened a couple of times. Can't remember the player, but some guy had his neck sliced and skated off immediately with his hands around his own throat.

quite right Richard Zednik, again sliced completely accidently after a check put a player near him on the floor and his skate flicked up and sliced open his throat, a very similar incident to Malarchuk but this time because of the Malarchuk incident they were ready and had most of the work done on him in the stadium, both still very lucky to be alive after both incidents.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

quite right Richard Zednik, again sliced completely accidently after a check put a player near him on the floor and his skate flicked up and sliced open his throat, a very similar incident to Malarchuk but this time because of the Malarchuk incident they were ready and had most of the work done on him in the stadium, both still very lucky to be alive after both incidents.

Yeah, he just happened to be in the vicinity of the felled checked player....

Just shows you, then no matter what precautions you take (neck guards), you can still be screwed.

 

[SK10Blade]

Don't want him to rush back, i've seen more than enough of Chris Wilder to know he will do the right thing both for him and for his cover and the team.
Tonight will be a good measure of this although Fulham fans don't seem to be over confident about anything.

 

[Davie Blade]

they are, Lorenzo when he broke his collar bone in the Assen GP practise and went to Barcelona to have the surgery to get a plate fitted, back on the bike and qualifying 24 hours later.

Finished 5th in the race I think?

and still only his mum likes him

 

[sitwell]

quite right Richard Zednik, again sliced completely accidently after a check put a player near him on the floor and his skate flicked up and sliced open his throat, a very similar incident to Malarchuk but this time because of the Malarchuk incident they were ready and had most of the work done on him in the stadium, both still very lucky to be alive after both incidents.

Isis claimed reponsibility

 

[Lil red rooster]

For me it's one thing the bone healing but the big thing is getting back to not thinking about it when going in to challenge's ,it's a psychological injury as well .
It will take time from getting on the pitch to recovering form,wilder will do right by him I'd leave it till pre season.

 

[ghandi]

Comparing apples and pears there I think. Even assuming the injuries and people were identical, which they clearly aren't, with a leg that is not 100%, a jockey can perform to a much higher level on the back of a horse than a footballer can running round kicking a ball and being kicked by opponents. You could for example ride a horse with a heavily bandaged and supported lower leg, clearly not something a footballer could do.
Let's just allow the medical team to do their jobs and get Coutts' leg, and almost as importantly, head, right.

No Jumps jockey would ever consider riding with a leg that wasn't 100% nor would he be allowed to by the horse racing authorities.

 

[Blade-on-Tyne]

Don't put too much faith in what you read in the media about injuries. It's an open secret amongst physios that footballers - more likely their agents and clubs - tend to exaggerate the recovery time from injuries of all types. This is not just pessimism. It's done to make players appear to be superman when they resume training/playing weeks before anticipated. Shearer was noted for it 20 years ago but they're all at it today.

 

[Small Mendonca]

Breaks can vary though. Lee Baxter broke his dignity and never played for us again. It's bonky madness.

 

[DifferentClass]

to slightly side track the thread, the most remarkable Come back from Injury was Clint Malarchuk, Ice Hockey goal keeper, had his carotid artery sliced open by a skate and injuring the surrounding carotid sheath and jugular vein, lost nearly 2 litres of blood and total of 300 stitches to close the 6 inch wound, was back on the ice playing 10 days later.. 10 days after nearly losing his life! that for me is the most remarkable come back from injury ever.

I remember that.

And that's why I will never play ice hockey. That and being absolutely useless on skates.

 

[elgoog44]

I remember that.

And that's why I will never play ice hockey. That and being absolutely useless on skates.

Either incident would make you think twice, but again Ice Hockey players have a different head space, heard stories of two enforcers going at it, fists flying and then one might do a rota cuff in his shoulder and say I'm done, and the other one helps him off the Ice, then back fighting a week later!
I skate like a duck walks on ice, and I wanted to play Ice Hockey but never happened for me.

 

[SwissBlade]

Have a look on physio rooms for an idea, they don't track them in the same way as they used to as they used to have the date of injury and expected time out, so it will need a google search of when they got the injury if you're that interested

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php

 

[GodricBlade]

I once broke my little toe by running over it with a full wheelie bin whilst wearing slippers.
Only had it strapped up with a bit of sticky plaster.
I was back taking the bin out - carefully - within a week.
Hard as nails me.
Hard as nails.

 

[blade too long]

has anyone ever seen the six million dollar man
not only would Coutts be back but hed run a hell of a lot faster too

 

[mancunianblade]

Whilst he may be repaired by April getting back upto speed with take ages.

No point rushing him I think wilder publicly announcing his season is over is a veiled message to the board too

 

[Robby Blade]

Yeh but those guys are super-human.

Don't you mean fuckin nutters?

 

[derfblade.3]

He will score the winning goal in added on time after coming on in the 90th min of the play-off final v pork. You heard it here first!

 

[Robby Blade]

I had a guy who made my fence panels turn up for work one Monday morning with his fingers bandaged up. He'd got them caught in his hedge trimmer the day before. Made a proper mess, but what the fuck, started working because in his words, it's just a couple ideas deep scratches.

 

[derfblade.3]

I had a guy who made my fence panels turn up for work one Monday morning with his fingers bandaged up. He'd got them caught in his hedge trimmer the day before. Made a proper mess, but what the fuck, started working because in his words, it's just a couple ideas deep scratches.

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