Outswinging vs. Inswinging Freekicks

[highgreenintokyo]

I have absolutely no data on this, but when we have freekicks in crossing positions, to me, it seems we favor greatly outswingers as opposed to inswingers.

I've always been under the impression that a well delivered inswinger would pose more problems for the defense and the opposing keeper than an outswinger. I may have missed a few, but from my count, six goals last year resulted from inswinging freekicks (Sharp vs. Rochdale, Bury, Wimbledon; O'Connell vs. Southend, Walsall; one of the goals against Leyton Orient) against maybe two outswingers (Wilson vs. Oxford; Sharp vs. Bradford).

My questions are: 1. Is it true that we favour outswingers or am I just imagining it? and 2. If it is true, what is the rationale? Our free kicks are clearly well worked on the training field (I can't remember seeing more freekick routines since the Bassett era), so what is the thinking? 3. Are inswingers inherently more dangerous than outswingers, or does it depend on how defences are set up? 4. Am I talking shit?

Cheers!

 

[Slim Man]

I'm not sure but JO'C has had some fantastic chances from set pieces this season and fluffed his lines. Not like him.

 

[mancunianblade]

I have absolutely no data on this, but when we have freekicks in crossing positions, to me, it seems we favor greatly outswingers as opposed to inswingers.

I've always been under the impression that a well delivered inswinger would pose more problems for the defense and the opposing keeper than an outswinger. I may have missed a few, but from my count, six goals last year resulted from inswinging freekicks (Sharp vs. Rochdale, Bury, Wimbledon; O'Connell vs. Southend, Walsall; one of the goals against Leyton Orient) against maybe two outswingers (Wilson vs. Oxford; Sharp vs. Bradford).

My questions are: 1. Is it true that we favour outswingers or am I just imagining it? and 2. If it is true, what is the rationale? Our free kicks are clearly well worked on the training field (I can't remember seeing more freekick routines since the Bassett era), so what is the thinking? 3. Are inswingers inherently more dangerous than outswingers, or does it depend on how defences are set up? 4. Am I talking shit?

Cheers!

Thread last week, with more in-depth analysis on our set plays than I think even our own coaching staff possess.

 

[mancunianblade]

Here you go

https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/article-on-our-set-pieces.60091/

 

[Ricky]

One thing in favour of the outswinger is that it reduces the chances of the keeper collecting the ball or it going out for a goal kick. Which is the most frustrating and wasteful thing that can happen with such free kicks.

 

[BushBlade]

https://soccerlogic.wordpress.com/2014/05/06/analytic-insights-and-dubious-corners-stats/

 

[Dnblade]

We need to bring back the old inswinger to the near post for a flick on header...it would often bypass the defenders and go in at the far post or someone would be following in to bury it...losds of teams used it,and produced loads of goals....trouble is you need a Woody type to deliver an accurate ball with the right pace on it,but don't see it anymore.
Woody used also do an outswinger to TC or occasionally Hockey just beyond the D to shoot on the volley.

 

[Silent Blade]

We need to bring back the old inswinger to the near post for a flick on header...it would often bypass the defenders and go in at the far post or someone would be following in to bury it...losds of teams used it,and produced loads of goals....trouble is you need a Woody type to deliver an accurate ball with the right pace on it,but don't see it anymore.
Woody used also do an outswinger to TC or occasionally Hockey just beyond the D to shoot on the volley.

Don't remember Hockey having a volley in him!

 

[Dnblade]

Don't remember Hockey having a volley in him!

He probably volleyed a few opponents though...It might be my memory SB,but I'm sure i remember a Woody corner from the right to Hockey on the edge of the D,who did a scissor volley against the bar...I mentioned it once before on here,but everyone said it must have been TC as Hockey wouldn't have been capable..Can't remember who we were playing,but it was an away game with the highlights on TV...never seen it since,..think we were in White shirts like we wore v ManU.

 

[Trafford]

Doesn't much matter which way they go if you don't beat the 1st defender...

 

[The Fox]

We could bamboozl the opposition by hitting it straight

 

[JordoBlade]

The worse set pieces are when they're floated in slowly. Absolutely boils my piss to the point where I want to pour my bovril over a child or elderly person and then naturally being a blade throw a flare at them.

 

[SteveBlade]

We seem to like to cross the bastard to the other corner flag. Could do with someone standing on it just in case.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

We need to bring back the old inswinger to the near post for a flick on header...it would often bypass the defenders and go in at the far post or someone would be following in to bury it...losds of teams used it,and produced loads of goals....trouble is you need a Woody type to deliver an accurate ball with the right pace on it,but don't see it anymore.
Woody used also do an outswinger to TC or occasionally Hockey just beyond the D to shoot on the volley.

The flick on header was usually made by Gil Reece - we used it loads of times and it was very effective.

Trouble is, as you rightly say, the ball has to be delivered with absolute precision and flicked in a similar manner and few players today possess those abilities.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Which way does yours swing?

Not in a gay way, like.

 

[Bladesthorpe]

The flick on header was usually made by Gil Reece - we used it loads of times and it was very effective.

Trouble is, as you rightly say, the ball has to be delivered with absolute precision and flicked in a similar manner and few players today possess those abilities.

Stan the Man was the king of the near post flick on.

 

[Dnblade]

The flick on header was usually made by Gil Reece - we used it loads of times and it was very effective.

Trouble is, as you rightly say, the ball has to be delivered with absolute precision and flicked in a similar manner and few players today possess those abilities.

Wel it appearsl the old near post flick on is alive and well...just watched Atletico"a goal v Chelsea.

 

[Mumbo]

I have absolutely no data on this, but when we have freekicks in crossing positions, to me, it seems we favor greatly outswingers as opposed to inswingers.

I've always been under the impression that a well delivered inswinger would pose more problems for the defense and the opposing keeper than an outswinger. I may have missed a few, but from my count, six goals last year resulted from inswinging freekicks (Sharp vs. Rochdale, Bury, Wimbledon; O'Connell vs. Southend, Walsall; one of the goals against Leyton Orient) against maybe two outswingers (Wilson vs. Oxford; Sharp vs. Bradford).

My questions are: 1. Is it true that we favour outswingers or am I just imagining it? and 2. If it is true, what is the rationale? Our free kicks are clearly well worked on the training field (I can't remember seeing more freekick routines since the Bassett era), so what is the thinking? 3. Are inswingers inherently more dangerous than outswingers, or does it depend on how defences are set up? 4. Am I talking shit?

Cheers!

Low out swinger for Woodward to volley straight down the middle with such immense pace that the keeper dunt move.
Seriously though,I want more shots on goal.Evans can proper hit the ball........I hope he gets the chance to swing his boot when he’s fit.
Ins or outs,floaters or grass cutters I really don’t mind as long as it ends in a goal attempt and is’nt wasted.