Our 'leaders'?

[SotonBlade]

Scouser though Sotty, what can you expect??

In all honesty though what I will say is that everytime I've had a day out, home or away, in his company, despite disagreeing with pretty much everything he believes in (McCabe, Warnock, Mexican Waves etc), that day has been all the more enjoyable for it.

It's the only thing i hate about Internet forums. You never get a true depiction of the person until you actually meet them.

 

[Ollessendro]

It's the only thing i hate about Internet forums. You never get a true depiction of the person until you actually meet them.

something tells me I'd never want to meet some posters*

I am actually talking about our potty mouthed scouse numpty (judge)

 

[judge]

something tells me I'd never want to meet some posters*

I am actually talking about our potty mouthed scouse numpty (judge)

Feelings mutual mate now why don't you carry on boring every one to tears with your pathetic shed thread ? About as funny as your beard

 

[Deadbat]

Because we lose we are a team of bottlers ? beggars belief

It is not just about 1 defeat. It has now got to the business end and we put ourselves in with a great chance. Team surprised me in a good way witht he win at Huddesfield. We just needed to keep our nerve but sadly seem incapable and the 4 results/perofrmances prove that (lucky to beat Scunthorpe in my opnion).

Injuries and suspensions happen to all the teams - we have ben fortuante to have same team bar the shouting all season - certainyl back four - that is why you should have back ups and not have to panic and bring people in a few hours before kick off but thats another point....)

Much of the bottling comment is based on last year (you could say Quinn and Monty were part of team that did same in Prem but that would be harsh)...when we lost every big game when it mattered and when presented with pressure could not handle it and the total lack of leadership after Morgan was injured was noticeable. We may have got away with it this year due to poor sides but now even sides like Walsall, Oldham when pressuring us and goign at us are realsing we fall to pieces.

The only people who seemed to have reverted to type during this bad run of results are the fans just like they do every time we hit a bad run of form at critical times FFs man up and get behind the team it might help more turning into a bunch of hysterical girls who seem to enjoy these moments more than when we are winning

To a point I agree some of us are a miserable bunch but we have a basis for it based on years of United failings in the past and also in more relevant times last season where I recall a run of games when we played 4 of the bottom 5 and I think lost every single game (Preston, Palace, Scunthorpe, Derby as it was in the league). It was pathetic to watch our spinless, rudderless side just limp to defeat after defeat and its happenign again. Make no mistake this is not about talent as Williamson, Quinn, Doyle, Cresswell, even Simonsen etc are better players than most at this level or should be (based on what they have done in their career - always playing higher up).

I just want one or maybe a collective of players to get us organised, kick us up the backside. Maybe thats the managers jobs but I see real lack of leadership on the pitch and seeing some of the aboves heads drop on Saturday confirmed it. These are players who should be rallying the younger players. Someone should have had a word with Lowton after the yellow and told him to calm down for 5 mins for instance in my opinion....Just little things but just what I feel from what I am seeing.


I will see say I thought we would be around the middle of the league but I based that on a lot of the above (as much as I have slammed them) moving on. We kept a decent core of players; despite us going down last year they really should have done better. Some of those players it is c a crucial part of their careers. They need to grab games by the scruff of the neck and seze the chance we have. Do they think teams will be queing up for them if they fail again (for second straight year?)

 

[super_pig]

cheer up DB.. being a blade too long is taking it's toll mate..
agree about one thing though.. i was surprised doyle didn't get the whole team round at 2-2 and tell them to shut the game down and play for a point

 

[sitwell]

The feeling was after the second equaliser was that we were on the front foot and should go on and win ,but yet another punt up the left wing and the makeshift defence conceded.If they hadn't scored it really could have gone either way with us being the favourites I would have thought.

 

[Fiery Blade]

It's time that the players (Evans excepted) should take a long hard look at themselves and start taking some accountabilty - Cresswell, Doyle, Quinn, Simonsen, Williamson are all on big contracts, possibly higher value than almost every player in this division - they should start proving their worth
Wilson - you can't put players on for a few minutes and expect them to get you out of the sh!t - it's the same every week
As for having to loan players on the afternoon of the match - words fail me!
United are a shambles - Professional Footballers, Professional Club - No they are third rate, third division and still the prima donna players can't hack it!

 

[sitwell]

We've also got some 3rd rate 'supporters' unfortunately.

 

[Fiery Blade]

We've also got some 3rd rate 'supporters' unfortunately.

Particularly those who go week in week out and get served up sh!te and accept it! - no in some cases embrace it!

 

[Micalijo]

It's time that the players (Evans excepted) should take a long hard look at themselves and start taking some accountabilty - Cresswell, Doyle, Quinn, Simonsen, Williamson are all on big contracts, possibly higher value than almost every player in this division - they should start proving their worth
Wilson - you can't put players on for a few minutes and expect them to get you out of the sh!t - it's the same every week
As for having to loan players on the afternoon of the match - words fail me!
United are a shambles - Professional Footballers, Professional Club - No they are third rate, third division and still the prima donna players can't hack it!

Great stuff Fiery. The shambles we are comes from the very top. It is ready to pounce at all times and a couple of injuries, some bad luck and it all implodes because as you say we are third rate in every aspect - Ched apart. SUFC should never, ever lose 3-2 to Oldham and Walsall in the space of 4 days under any circumstances, let alone ones where half the side will earn in a month what plenty of the opp earn in a year.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Great stuff Fiery. The shambles we are comes from the very top. It is ready to pounce at all times and a couple of injuries, some bad luck and it all implodes because as you say we are third rate in every aspect - Ched apart. SUFC should never, ever lose 3-2 to Oldham and Walsall in the space of 4 days under any circumstances, let alone ones where half the side will earn in a month what plenty of the opp earn in a year.

Well Said that man!
This year despite all the so called 'Great Football' we have thrown two goal leads away more than once lost to mighty sides like Leyton Orient, Walsall and Wycombe allowed Exeter to put four past us at home conceded three goals at home against Huddersfield and Oldham and have to rely on one midfielder that can actually pass a ball to the same coloured shirt, and a rookie centre half.
Wilson bottled it when he failed to take Swindon up - it now looks like a repeat performance - from his interviews he hasn't a clue what to do to arrest the slide - perhaps he may loan another left back!

 

[oldblade]

Well Said that man!
This year despite all the so called 'Great Football' we have thrown two goal leads away more than once lost to mighty sides like Leyton Orient, Walsall and Wycombe allowed Exeter to put four past us at home conceded three goals at home against Huddersfield and Oldham and have to rely on one midfielder that can actually pass a ball to the same coloured shirt, and a rookie centre half.
Wilson bottled it when he failed to take Swindon up - it now looks like a repeat performance - from his interviews he hasn't a clue what to do to arrest the slide - perhaps he may loan another left back!

Steady on. We haven't lost to Leyton Orient yet. We have to wait until 14th April for that to happen!

 

[sitwell]

These two are poised cock in hand waiting for it.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Steady on. We haven't lost to Leyton Orient yet. We have to wait until 14th April for that to happen!

Sorry, getting carried away with myself - I mean't Stevenage!!

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Sitters my sides are splitting!
Get Real - at present we are playing very poorly and no one seems to be able to arrest the slide!

 

[Micalijo]

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These two are poised cock in hand waiting for it.

Bang out of order Sitwell that. Expect it from The Scouse Filth but not you.

Thought we'd got somewhere re Simo but obviously not.

100% assure I want the best for SUFC and as the last 4 games have shown, we are very, very fragile - all thanks to the 'leadership' shown from the top.

 

[Pragmatic Blade]

Isn't it always more feisty on here when we've lost. We love a good moan don't we. No one comes on here slagging players off when we have won. I don't see any other team apart from Charlton who haven't suffered a series of poor results and players under-performing.

Hello! We are still second; the Blades will bounce back and I believe we will go up. I am not sure how many people who post on here after a defeat think the same way.

Goodness me - as for getting two loanees in on Tuesday before the game - well - we didn't have much option did we! By all accounts (and I didn't go), the midfield should have done more to prevent the goals. Easy to blame the defence when they were still shaking hands in the car park before the game!

 

[Balham]

We've done remarkably well this season considering that many of the problems from last season remain: namely no leadership on the pitch, a lack of technical ability, a lack of pace throughout the side and a lack of depth in the squad.

We were only ever a couple of injuries to the wrong players away from a couple of defeats on the bounce but I would expect a better performance come Saturday. We can beat Brentford and Colchester over the next seven days and then who knows? We might be back 7 points clear.

I know that Fiery has his views on how the club is being run but unfortunately, we don't have immunity from contract law and so the players' contracts have to be respected - whether you believe them to be deserved or not.

Micalijo: Simonsen is the only member of the back five who started the game against Scunthorpe to play against Walsall. Don't you think there's going to be inevitable hesitance and communication issues with that level of upheaval? What would you have said if he'd come for the cross for the third Walsall goal but got nowhere near it? It's been described as "the best cross you'll see at any level this season" by a West Midlands paper: how about chastising the defence for not cutting out the supply?

 

[sitwell]

why are you only interested in the last 4 and not the 12 before ? We must be good we're above Barcelona listening to the nobheads on radio pig who have beaten Bury , we must be shitting ourselves.

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According to Blades on p and g its Porter and Montgomerys fault last night. What are we up against ?

 

[Fiery Blade]

To be fair Sitters - we beat Bury 0-3 and we were crowing about it!
I'll go on Saturday but I expect Wilson to respond to three defeats out of four -his team selection is like his substitutions very predictable!

 

[Micalijo]

why are you only interested in the last 4 and not the 12 before ? We must be good we're above Barcelona listening to the nobheads on radio pig who have beaten Bury , we must be shitting ourselves.

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According to Blades on p and g its Porter and Montgomerys fault last night. What are we up against ?

I was very interested in the 12 before the abject display at Hillsborough. Really enjoyed the term but we are a mega money side in L1 terms and 1 injury and we have totally collapsed. It is a follow on from the disgraceful way the club has been runand managed in the last 5 years.

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We've done remarkably well this season considering that many of the problems from last season remain: namely no leadership on the pitch, a lack of technical ability, a lack of pace throughout the side and a lack of depth in the squad.

We were only ever a couple of injuries to the wrong players away from a couple of defeats on the bounce but I would expect a better performance come Saturday. We can beat Brentford and Colchester over the next seven days and then who knows? We might be back 7 points clear.

I know that Fiery has his views on how the club is being run but unfortunately, we don't have immunity from contract law and so the players' contracts have to be respected - whether you believe them to be deserved or not.

Micalijo: Simonsen is the only member of the back five who started the game against Scunthorpe to play against Walsall. Don't you think there's going to be inevitable hesitance and communication issues with that level of upheaval? What would you have said if he'd come for the cross for the third Walsall goal but got nowhere near it? It's been described as "the best cross you'll see at any level this season" by a West Midlands paper: how about chastising the defence for not cutting out the supply?

Perfectly fair comment Balham but my view is that a keeper of Simo's wedge and experience should be able to cope and yes he needs to come out more and try and sort the cross out because they don't all head it straight at them, even for a half decent cross. Keepers are obv l;ast line fo defence and are there to help when a defender has inevitably lost a man or good play has beaten them - our keepr makes sod all difference

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

We play

Bournemouth
Brentford
Bury
Carlisle
Chesterfield
Colchester United
Exeter City
Hartlepool
Orient
Notts County
Oldham Athletic
Rochdale
Scunthorpe
Stevenage
Walsall
Wycombe
Yeovil

We are over 10 pts behind Charlton

Don't let 2nd place or if we pull it off promotion cloud your red tinted glasses.

We are not good enough and if we do go up without major changes will be cannon fodder in the championship

 

[metalblade]

Those thoughts crossed my mind too Grumps. I also wonder if the owner of the club is that bothered what division we are in as long as 15000 clappers pass through the turnstiles each week and we have a good supply of youngsters to sell after the season ticket renewals are in.

 

[sitwell]

Clappers ? havent we moved on ?

 

[metalblade]

It would seem not, seeing as some think everything in the garden is rosey at BDTBL

 

[Balham]

Not everything is rosey in the BDBTL garden but then again, not everything is shit either.

 

[oldblade]

We play

Bournemouth
Brentford
Bury
Carlisle
Chesterfield
Colchester United
Exeter City
Hartlepool
Orient
Notts County
Oldham Athletic
Rochdale
Scunthorpe
Stevenage
Walsall
Wycombe
Yeovil

We are over 10 pts behind Charlton

Don't let 2nd place or if we pull it off promotion cloud your red tinted glasses.

We are not good enough and if we do go up without major changes will be cannon fodder in the championship

Really?! I think any of the current top 4 or 5 in this division would be able to stay clear of the relegation places in the Championship, and Charlton will probably do a Southampton.

I think you may have let our disgraceful relegation cloud your judgement. Although there were many obvious weaknesses in the side, that squad of players could and should have stayed comfortably clear of relegation.

 

[judge]

This thread and most of the posters on it sums up the situation at united perfectly , no wonder we bottle the big games
Just look at some of the spineless skirt wearers posting on here , some of them haven't posted for months but as soon as we lose a few it's the same old faces just like when we wobbled under warnock on our way to the prem

It's the exa t same miserable people posting the exact same crap , hope your enjoying it lads all power to you

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

There are 17 clubs listed that should not be a problem to us.
We have a 2nd division squad playing in the 3rd division. Whilst we have no right to be promoted we also had no right to stay up last season; league tables don't lie, we were poor last year.
Why would this poor team perform better if promoted? We have not strengthened at all although why should we to play in lower division? I just feel next season will be very difficult if we manage to get up unless we rebuild drastically. How many did Charlton bring in, 18?

Being 10 points or more off Charlton is poor in my opinion given our squad. 2nd place is the minimum we should be.

 

[oldblade]

There are 17 clubs listed that should not be a problem to us.
We have a 2nd division squad playing in the 3rd division. Whilst we have no right to be promoted we also had no right to stay up last season; league tables don't lie, we were poor last year.
Why would this poor team perform better if promoted? We have not strengthened at all although why should we to play in lower division? I just feel next season will be very difficult if we manage to get up unless we rebuild drastically. How many did Charlton bring in, 18?

Being 10 points or more off Charlton is poor in my opinion given our squad. 2nd place is the minimum we should be.

Because it is managed and playing differently.

 

[Balham]

Why would this poor team perform better if promoted? We have not strengthened at all although why should we to play in lower division? I just feel next season will be very difficult if we manage to get up unless we rebuild drastically. How many did Charlton bring in, 18?

Being 10 points or more off Charlton is poor in my opinion given our squad. 2nd place is the minimum we should be.

We've got a playmaker now in McDonald, something we've lacked for years; so to say we've not strengthened is misleading.

I've said it a lot over the past week: we can't "rebuild drastically" at the moment as there isn't enough room to manoeuvre on the wage front. Charlton were able to bring in 18 as the majority of their first team squad was out of contract last summer.

I'd rather look at it from the perspective that Charlton are doing incredibly well to be 10 points ahead of us. We're probably 3-6 points behind where we "should" be, the rest of the gap is down to the efficiency of the Addicks.