Our abysmal away record

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Since Wilder took over our away record against top half teams so far is as follows.

2016-17 - LLDDDWWDDWW
2017-18 - LLLLDDLLDDW
2018-19 - LLWLLD

Total - P28 W6 D10 L12

Doesn't bode well for Friday night when you consider Villa have scored in every home match since a 0-0 draw with Millwall on 9th December 2017.
 



What do you think explains it? Any proposed solutions?
 
Maybe due to the fact that we play fairly open, attacking football and commit bodies forward.

This works well vs lower placed teams but will more often come unstuck vs the top teams who have the quality to expose any errors at the back, and much meaner defences. Home advantage would seem to make the difference between our result vs the top teams, both for them and for us.

Also, I'm guessing this is vs teams top half at the end of the season, rather than mid-season?
Form ebbs and flows during the season. Beating a team in great form who go onto finish lower table may be a more impressive result overall than winning vs a team in terrible form who end up making the play offs.

I agree that the stats tell a story that generally isn't great, but I think it's slightly more nuanced than that.
 
Many many years from now, long after Wilder and Co have left us, whenever I look back on this wonderful
period, the first thing that I will think about is how shit we were away from home against comparably good teams. :rolleyes:
 
So where we at pur weakest is playing the better teams in the league away from home??

Stunning insight. You should get a gig on talksport PeterNdlovu081

Not just weak though, outstandingly, remarkably and concerningly weak.

We're fucking gash.

Last season Sunderland finished bottom of the league but won more points away from home against top half teams than we did.
 
Not just weak though, outstandingly, remarkably and concerningly weak.

We're fucking gash.

Last season Sunderland finished bottom of the league but won more points away from home against top half teams than we did.

I bet the Sunderland supporters talk about this over a pint quite often. It must gloss over their double relegation quite nicely.
 



Since Wilder took over our away record against top half teams so far is as follows.

2016-17 - LLDDDWWDDWW
2017-18 - LLLLDDLLDDW
2018-19 - LLWLLD

Total - P28 W6 D10 L12

Doesn't bode well for Friday night when you consider Villa have scored in every home match since a 0-0 draw with Millwall on 9th December 2017.
Didn't bode well for us when we went to Blackburn who had not lost at home to anyone for months but we won 2-0. .....So there!
 
Which actually amounts to 1.03 points per game, away from home against top half opposition.

That's actually not too bad and certainly not "abysmal". Well done on spelling it correctly though. Last thing you'd have wanted was to embarrass yourself on your teams football forum.

1.03?

Where do you get that from?
 
Since Wilder took over our away record against top half teams so far is as follows.

2016-17 - LLDDDWWDDWW
2017-18 - LLLLDDLLDDW
2018-19 - LLWLLD

Total - P28 W6 D10 L12

Doesn't bode well for Friday night when you consider Villa have scored in every home match since a 0-0 draw with Millwall on 9th December 2017.

Who is this seasons ‘W’ representing? We beat Bolton when they were third. We beat Norwich when they weren’t top and beat Villa when they weren’t up high.

You can’t list like this until end of season
 
Since Wilder took over our away record against top half teams so far is as follows.

2016-17 - LLDDDWWDDWW
2017-18 - LLLLDDLLDDW
2018-19 - LLWLLD

Total - P28 W6 D10 L12

Doesn't bode well for Friday night when you consider Villa have scored in every home match since a 0-0 draw with Millwall on 9th December 2017.
We beat Bolton and Villa earlier in the season and they were both top half when we played them, so thats two more W to add to your list
 
Who is this seasons ‘W’ representing? We beat Bolton when they were third. We beat Norwich when they weren’t top and beat Villa when they weren’t up high.

You can’t list like this until end of season
Villa and Norwich games were both at home though. Bolton is fair enough, if early on in the season.

Last season we also beat Leeds away when they were top half, so personally I would also count that one as well, even if they finished 13th.
 
You can probably put it down to them having much better players than us
Budgets we could only dream of
England international's up front
Hostile crowds
Weak refs
Us over achieving
The weather
 
You can probably put it down to them having much better players than us
Budgets we could only dream of
England international's up front
Hostile crowds
Weak refs
Us over achieving
The weather
And Brexit.....
 
Villa and Norwich games were both at home though. Bolton is fair enough, if early on in the season.

Last season we also beat Leeds away when they were top half, so personally I would also count that one as well, even if they finished 13th.

They were at home, you’re correct. I’m miles away. It is early mind.
 
Since Wilder took over our away record against top half teams so far is as follows.

2016-17 - LLDDDWWDDWW
2017-18 - LLLLDDLLDDW
2018-19 - LLWLLD

Total - P28 W6 D10 L12

Doesn't bode well for Friday night when you consider Villa have scored in every home match since a 0-0 draw with Millwall on 9th December 2017.


think youll find a lot of away against top half team records look like ours, especially first season back up in the championship
have a look at boltons

we only lost 2 in league one
last years was never going to match that

finishing 10th was epic compared to how owls fans had us down to fare
 
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No no no no, threads like this aren't allowed.

Shameful post by a very, very bad Blade.
 
Since Wilder took over our away record against top half teams so far is as follows.

2016-17 - LLDDDWWDDWW
2017-18 - LLLLDDLLDDW
2018-19 - LLWLLD

Total - P28 W6 D10 L12

Doesn't bode well for Friday night when you consider Villa have scored in every home match since a 0-0 draw with Millwall on 9th December 2017.

The first 2 seasons - we just played on the front foot - with a general, fuck the opposition.

CW said we ran out of gas after the away game at Hull.

CW & AK have learnt a lot from last season, and for me they are playing a smarter game - starting at Norwich and may do so for the tough games coming up.

As a glass half full type, after Norwich, I expect better, smarter performances for us.

Villa have a home record of W:6, D7, L2 - which isn't outstanding for them.

We also have a fantastic opportunity to go top of the league - if that isn't enough motivation for the players, then I don't know what is.

UTB
 



Do you get more points for beating top half teams, when was that new rule introduced?

As far as the thread title is concerned, it’s selective and deliberately misleading. Our away record is the fifth best in the league, in which case all those below us must be really, really bad.

Damn, I just took the bait....
 

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