CONFIRMED Olsen Loan Terminated

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My concern is with covid floating around.

Usually keepers don't get injured that much and they can often be ever present.

Worry here is that our margin for error this season is not high.

Whilst I've not liked his performances so far you do have genuine competition.

On the other hand, he's not exactly been available all the time either.

Definitely need another player in. I wonder if we get some money from Villa for the inconvenience?

Surprised Jed Steer isn't seen as good enough to sit on the bench unless he's injured.
 



Champagneblade said:
My concern is with covid floating around.

Usually keepers don't get injured that much and they can often be ever present.

Worry here is that our margin for error this season is not high.

Whilst I've not liked his performances so far you do have genuine competition.

On the other hand, he's not exactly been available all the time either.

Definitely need another player in. I wonder if we get some money from Villa for the inconvenience?

Surprised Jed Steer isn't seen as good enough to sit on the bench unless he's injured.
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There is an easy way out of this, United don't stand in his way, re only allowing him to leave when we have a replacement, Jed Steer for the rest of the season, and Villa pay his wages,,
 
Champagneblade said:
My concern is with covid floating around.

Usually keepers don't get injured that much and they can often be ever present.

Worry here is that our margin for error this season is not high.

Whilst I've not liked his performances so far you do have genuine competition.

On the other hand, he's not exactly been available all the time either.

Definitely need another player in. I wonder if we get some money from Villa for the inconvenience?

Surprised Jed Steer isn't seen as good enough to sit on the bench unless he's injured.
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Agreed - I think with the state of play with Covid or an injury we can’t go in just with Eastwood and Wes.

Especially given we let verrips go also. I’d be surprised if there isn’t some alternative

That said he will be on large wages so it’s probably a saving to let him go and replace him. He always looked decent for Sweden but not very good for us, though to be fair he was playing in a side that couldn’t defend - maybe he’d look better behind the three.

We also lack depth at centreback and in midfield, significant hangover there from wilders lopsided squad building.
 
He’s shit, let him go and save the wages, get any average Championship keeper in and it will be an improvement.
 
Did we pay a loan fee which would of been for the full season though?

I would say yes.
 
Freddie Woodman or Kjell Scherpen on loan seem like obvious choices if we’re gonna bring another keeper in.
 
It's a bit difficult to know the thinking of the club here without being party to the figures.

If we are due to shell out half a million to a million in wages between now and the end of the season on someone getting splinters then start the car.

It's just such a double edged sword. He goes. We save. But then who replaces?

Yes, Eastwood can sit on the bench and do the warm ups but you'd be off your rocker to rely on someone so unproven.

You've got to think if Wes gets covid the day before the next game, am I happy with the option I have? If it were Eastwood I'd have to say "no".

As Hagansbootlaces alluded to, just asking for Villa to stump up Steer would seem relatively pain free.

Not sure if Unitwd World has an answer. Maybe Vanhammel fancies a stint here? He's the Beerschot keeper and captain. After the last game there is talk that he'll have to give up the captaincy and they'll give another keeper a run in goal.

You might think I've lost the plot suggesting a guy who just conceded 7 (so did Meslier) but apart from the 7th(!) I didn't think he was really at fault and the game was gone by then. In the limited games I saw him, he's looked reliable especially his distribution being decent and has pulled off a few acrobatic saves.

It's in these situations you'd hope that United World teams cna help each other out.

Hate to say but I do think that after today if the court ruling on potential 3-0 forfeit doesn't go the way of Beerschot then that could be it.

Football fans are eternal optimists but it will take a remarkable turnaround for the same players who sit on 9 points to pull this out of the fire.

As much as the Board will take stick for the current plight, they are entering the phase where you'd just be throwing good money after bad. Time to regroup for next year, me thinks.
 
Olsen leaving would be met with a big shoulder shrug by me. We haven't really had chance to see if he's any good as he's only played about a dozen games and you need longer than that to get a real feel for players consistency etc.

During those games he's had at least 3 significant mistakes though, and that is a poor start for a goalie, certainly worse than Wes during his time with the shirt. !st goal v Preston, 1st goal v Millwall and 3rd goal v Blackburn are all shockers really and whilst he's pulled off a few decent saves, that's a minimum expectation really.

We'll bring in a 3rd keeper in thenext few days, because 2 isn't enough, and in my mind we bring in the best we can afford. It's a critical position that should be prioritised.
 
Agree that we would need another keeper. Doesn’t seem like Eastwood is up to the job, if needed. Probably too soon for either Dewhurst or Amissah.
 
It also shows how crap Verrips is if we've let him go without a second thought.
 



The problem with Eastwood is that he's so injury prone that we simply can't rely on his to be fit. Wes is having a good stint but we've seen that cam easily change to becoming a liability. Need to bring in someone. Hopefully permanently.
 
robbiez666 said:
The problem with Eastwood is that he's so injury prone that we simply can't rely on his to be fit. Wes is having a good stint but we've seen that cam easily change to becoming a liability. Need to bring in someone. Hopefully permanently.
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The question is who?

I'm struggling to think of a better option than Woodman on loan - I assume Utd wouldn't be able to afford him permanently (unless they somehow get up this season).
 
robbiez666 said:
The problem with Eastwood is that he's so injury prone that we simply can't rely on his to be fit. Wes is having a good stint but we've seen that cam easily change to becoming a liability. Need to bring in someone. Hopefully permanently.
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I would be amazed if we bring anyone good in, which is why I think this is a bad idea.
 
Do you think we are sitting on this due to money? If we mutually cancel his loan would we forfeit a fee that we have already paid? Whereas if Roma recalled they would owe us some money back? Are we asking Villa to pay the difference?
 
TheGregBlade said:
Do you think we are sitting on this due to money? If we mutually cancel his loan would we forfeit a fee that we have already paid? Whereas if Roma recalled they would owe us some money back? Are we asking Villa to pay the difference?
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Presumably Roma would prefer he goes to Villa, more chance of a permanent move, and if Villa don't trigger the option to buy, its easier to push the story re a PL keeper is being available rather than a Championship keeper, for his next move.
 
Mouth of the South said:
The question is who?

I'm struggling to think of a better option than Woodman on loan - I assume Utd wouldn't be able to afford him permanently (unless they somehow get up this season).
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Potentially, he's not necessarily that much. If Newcastle bring another keeper in then he's 3rd or 4th choice. I suspect they'll be more interested in moving players on than money, given their endless wealth. I reckon we could get a loan to permanent with a initial fee between 500k and 1 million. And if they want more for him, then Darlow.
 
robbiez666 said:
Potentially, he's not necessarily that much. If Newcastle bring another keeper in then he's 3rd or 4th choice. I suspect they'll be more interested in moving players on than money, given their endless wealth. I reckon we could get a loan to permanent with a initial fee between 500k and 1 million. And if they want more for him, then Darlow.
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If so then great although I was under the impression (possibly incorrectly) that Newcastle value him at £6-8m. I certainly rate him higher than Darlow - if he's available and within Utd's reach then he should be a no brainer - he'd certainly improve the team!
 
Mouth of the South said:
If so then great although I was under the impression (possibly incorrectly) that Newcastle value him at £6-8m. I certainly rate him higher than Darlow - if he's available and within Utd's reach then he should be a no brainer - he'd certainly improve the team!
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I suspect that's not the happiest dressing room. I guess it depends what they are going to do. If Dubravka got badly injured you'd assume they splash out money on a replacement so where does that leave the other two? I suspect Woodman would be available to loan, at least, and given they were all vying for number 1 at the start of the season, maybe pushing for first team football. They did value him highly but not sure how much that stacks up now.
 
Scarebus said:
Henderson is kicking off big time at Man Utd. Take a pay cut, get out of that toxic mess and come home to be loved by dem blades lad.
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Man U would have to pay 90% of his wages for him to come here
 
Yogi said:
Man U would have to pay 90% of his wages for him to come here
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Been a real sliding doors moment for Henderson, not just his 'status' at ManU but it's possible Ramsdale wouldn't have got the move to Arsenal if Henderson hadn't withdrawn injured from the England squad ( Saka doing the hard yards reporting to and fro with Arteta)
Henderson not only lost the chance to stake a claim for Man U through injury, but watched on as Ramsdale on the back of another relegation and more questions about his ability,,took his England place, got a big money move and is now Arsenals first choice, and being talked up re starting for England, it's almost become a case of Henderson? Who????
 
Hagansbootlaces said:
Been a real sliding doors moment for Henderson, not just his 'status' at ManU but it's possible Ramsdale wouldn't have got the move to Arsenal if Henderson hadn't withdrawn injured from the England squad ( Saka doing the hard yards reporting to and fro with Arteta)
Henderson not only lost the chance to stake a claim for Man U through injury, but watched on as Ramsdale on the back of another relegation and more questions about his ability,,took his England place, got a big money move and is now Arsenals first choice, and being talked up re starting for England, it's almost become a case of Henderson? Who????
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I’m sure the money softens the blow but he really came across as a player who want achievement above money it was the number one jersey at Man U that was the draw for him not the contract but he is now a cautionary tale. I think there’s a real case to be made as a player you want to be in an elite academy to get access to that top level coaching but that you shouldn’t sign a contract which ties you to them beyond the age of 21. If you’re good enough you’ll get back there but you’ll be coming back as a big money signing which means you’re guaranteed to play.
 
Yogi said:
I’m sure the money softens the blow but he really came across as a player who want achievement above money it was the number one jersey at Man U that was the draw for him not the contract but he is now a cautionary tale. I think there’s a real case to be made as a player you want to be in an elite academy to get access to that top level coaching but that you shouldn’t sign a contract which ties you to them beyond the age of 21. If you’re good enough you’ll get back there but you’ll be coming back as a big money signing which means you’re guaranteed to play.
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I think his injury, although minor, set him back a bit, also the change in management hasn't helped, I don't think there us any particular loyalty or 'romance' re academy players coming through its more immediate/short term results, think Rangnick is a totally different character to Ole, and any promises along with a sympathetic ear, went out of the door when Ole got the elbow
 
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Hagansbootlaces said:
I think his injury, although minor, set him back a bit, also the change in management hasn't helped, I don't think there us any particular loyalty or 'romance' re academy players coming through its more immediate/short term results, think Rangnick is a totally different character to Ole, and any promises along with a sympathetic ear, went out of the door when Ole hot the elbow
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Yeah he’s done at Man U they’re on the verge of blowing that whole thing up hopefully he lands somewhere where he can rebuild his career the difficulty will be the money he’s on in terms of clubs taking a chance on him
 



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