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I read a good biography of Doc Holiday and what an interesting man with a very interesting life. Nasty piece of work, but not that dissimilar to the role that Val Kilmer played in Tombstone.

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When I was 12 years old at Grammar School I wrote an essay in which I included the word plummeting .

The English teacher who marked it struck it out in red ink and wrote in the side column “ No such word “.!!
Language, such a lucid environment. words move into and out of fashion over time.
Doesn't "plummet" mean something plummeting therefore the "ing" is redundant. Maybe.
 
Language, such a lucid environment. words move into and out of fashion over time.
Doesn't "plummet" mean something plummeting therefore the "ing" is redundant. Maybe.

I don’t think so .

It is the present participle of the verb to plummet and has its own definition In any decent dictionary .

If your theory were to be correct , the same would have to apply to many other words with a similar meaning such as plunging and falling and hundreds if not thousands of others ending in ‘ing ‘ such as calling or falling etc. etc .
 
I don’t think so .

It is the present participle of the verb to plummet and has its own definition In any decent dictionary .

If your theory were to be correct , the same would have to apply to many other words with a similar meaning such as plunging and falling and hundreds if not thousands of others ending in ‘ing ‘ such as calling or falling etc. etc .

When I was 8, my teacher marked my piece on dinosaurs by writing in red ink next to the word "Pteranodon", "I've not heard of this one - are you sure it existed?" I wouldn't mind, but an 8-year-old spelling "Pteranodon" correctly was no mean feat, I can tell you. It was only when Ozric Tentacles released Jurassic Shift in 1993, 19 years on, that I was finally satisfied I was right and Mrs Hill was wrong.

 
Joe Choynski and a very young Jack Johnson in prison in Texas, 1901. They were both arrested after a prize fight back when it was illegal. At the time both Jews and blacks were looked upon very unfavourably but both men were quite famous for their 'fuck you'attitude and thumbing their noises at the prejudices thrown at them.

Choynski actually knocked Johnson out in the 3rd round which was no mean feat. Anyhow, when they were banged up together, they took a shine to each other and Choynski taught Johnson all the skills of the noble art and in later years, when no one could get near him, old Jack always credited his fighting prowess to Choynski for teaching him to box.

I have a biography of Jack Johnson called Unforgivable Blackness by Geoffrey C. Ward, a very long and detailed account of his life and the shocking by today's standards racism that was thrown his way. Heavy going but an excellent read that I'd definitely recommend.

Real tough guys in a tough world.

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I read a good biography of Doc Holiday and what an interesting man with a very interesting life. Nasty piece of work, but not that dissimilar to the role that Val Kilmer played in Tombstone.

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My brother and me visited Tombstone about 3 years ago, fascinating if you have an interest in ‘The Wild West’…..OK Corral, Boot Hill cemetery and the Birdcage Theatre were interesting.20220523_160746.webp20220524_102906.webp20220524_084048.webp
 

Joe Choynski and a very young Jack Johnson in prison in Texas, 1901. They were both arrested after a prize fight back when it was illegal. At the time both Jews and blacks were looked upon very unfavourably but both men were quite famous for their 'fuck you'attitude and thumbing their noises at the prejudices thrown at them.

Choynski actually knocked Johnson out in the 3rd round which was no mean feat. Anyhow, when they were banged up together, they took a shine to each other and Choynski taught Johnson all the skills of the noble art and in later years, when no one could get near him, old Jack always credited his fighting prowess to Choynski for teaching him to box.

I have a biography of Jack Johnson called Unforgivable Blackness by Geoffrey C. Ward, a very long and detailed account of his life and the shocking by today's standards racism that was thrown his way. Heavy going but an excellent read that I'd definitely recommend.

Real tough guys in a tough world.

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I too have that book in my boxing collection MM.
A superb read and the levels of racism back then were sickening to say the least.
I've probably read read it 2 or 3 times over the years it's been on my shelf, a stark reminder of how human beings are capable of treating fellow man....
Fair to say Johnson is one of my sporting heroes.
 
I don’t think so .

It is the present participle of the verb to plummet and has its own definition In any decent dictionary .

If your theory were to be correct , the same would have to apply to many other words with a similar meaning such as plunging and falling and hundreds if not thousands of others ending in ‘ing ‘ such as calling or falling etc. etc .
Try "called" and "Fell".
Maybe?
 
I read a good biography of Doc Holiday and what an interesting man with a very interesting life. Nasty piece of work, but not that dissimilar to the role that Val Kilmer played in Tombstone.

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Was rail riding USA and stopped off at Glenwood Springs Nevada. Went to the graveyard and can remember he was buried there but didn't know where. Good bar called The Wyatt Earp nearby.
 
Joe Choynski and a very young Jack Johnson in prison in Texas, 1901. They were both arrested after a prize fight back when it was illegal. At the time both Jews and blacks were looked upon very unfavourably but both men were quite famous for their 'fuck you'attitude and thumbing their noises at the prejudices thrown at them.

Choynski actually knocked Johnson out in the 3rd round which was no mean feat. Anyhow, when they were banged up together, they took a shine to each other and Choynski taught Johnson all the skills of the noble art and in later years, when no one could get near him, old Jack always credited his fighting prowess to Choynski for teaching him to box.

I have a biography of Jack Johnson called Unforgivable Blackness by Geoffrey C. Ward, a very long and detailed account of his life and the shocking by today's standards racism that was thrown his way. Heavy going but an excellent read that I'd definitely recommend.

Real tough guys in a tough world.

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Me too, great read.
 
I too have that book in my boxing collection MM.
A superb read and the levels of racism back then were sickening to say the least.
I've probably read read it 2 or 3 times over the years it's been on my shelf, a stark reminder of how human beings are capable of treating fellow man....
Fair to say Johnson is one of my sporting heroes.

Me too, great read.

If you like the boxing books these two take some beating. Emile Griffith is a legend to me, all he wanted to do in life was make ladies hats but he got press ganged into boxing and the rest is history. Killed Benny Paret in the ring, and I'm pretty sure you know the background to it and led a very secretive life. Being black back then was bad enough but being gay as well he had to be very careful.

The other one shows just how corrupt boxing was back in the day and you have to have a strong stomach to read about the fight where Max Baer basically got away with murder. I had a chat with the author and she was a nice lass, meticulous in her research and you can see in the level of detail.

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If you like the boxing books these two take some beating. Emile Griffith is a legend to me, all he wanted to do in life was make ladies hats but he got press ganged into boxing and the rest is history. Killed Benny Paret in the ring, and I'm pretty sure you know the background to it and led a very secretive life. Being black back then was bad enough but being gay as well he had to be very careful.

The other one shows just how corrupt boxing was back in the day and you have to have a strong stomach to read about the fight where Max Baer basically got away with murder. I had a chat with the author and she was a nice lass, meticulous in her research and you can see in the level of detail.

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Thanks Maurice. I've got the Emile Griffith book, another excellent read and Donald Macrae is someone prolific in my collection.
I'll certainly try and get hold of the Max Baer book.
Fascinating subject for me is boxing, the whole pysche of it. Ali started me on this road even before he became world champion , the way he psyched out the supposedly unbeatable Sonny Liston (some good literature on him available too) grabbed me at a very young age.
The local scene around Sheffield too provided plenty of characters especially in the Ingle era and spawned a few interesting reads.
Oddly enough I have little interest in modern day boxing.....
 

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