Old Photos For No Reason Whatsoever

[broomhillblade]

Snow this weekend? (No gloves!)

 

[XM657]

Nowt to forgive, good question. I would think everyone got one because as my mam would always say halfway through his stories, “all they use to do was their courting, they wouldn’t have had a clue what to do if they had seen a German”. I do remember though he told us lots of times about the bombings over Sheffield, he said you could hear and see the night sky lit up all over South Yorkshire and how terrible and helpless everyone felt.
For any younger readers, courting at that time was akin to “ Knocking off”.
If there was some kind of museum that would be interested in the document I think it would be a good time to pass it on ,it’s only 2 weeks since it saw the light of day when I found it in a box in my loft, also a photograph of the full squad taken in front of the pavilion at Mexborough. Sure my dad would be proud as punch to know people where still interested .

'Knocking off', made me smile, and as far as memory says, both sexes used it, or did I mix with the wrong kind of girls/woman.
Dare I ask if we could see the photo of your dad and his comrades,
To tempt you to post the photo I post one with my grandfather and my childhood mate's dad(on sturrup pump, both WW1 veterans) at there ARP Post at the school on Hollinsend Rd.
The three younger members are probably teachers, with the man on the right unknown to me. I imagine the teachers did the daytime shift and local men would take over, when home from work, for the night shift.
To the right of the photo there was a recess in the building with a flat roof where a ladder was permanent fixed for clearing incendaries. I add there was a baton roped to the bottom to stop kids climbing up. We had a tom cat, 'Whiskers', who would climb the ladder then proceed to walk on the roof ridge, descending head first down the ladder.
Sorry for the double take but I started writing this yesterday.

 

[XM657]

Snow this weekend? (No gloves!)

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Always a 'like' from me when Sir JH is involved.
Albert's looking a tad camp for a split second as the camera shutter opens. Not really, looking where to put his feet and for good reason, the term 'skating rink' comes to mind.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

'Knocking off', made me smile, and as far as memory says, both sexes used it, or did I mix with the wrong kind of girls/woman.
Dare I ask if we could see the photo of your dad and his comrades,
To tempt you to post the photo I post one with my grandfatherView attachment 99365 and my childhood mate's dad(on sturrup pump, View attachment 99365both WW1 veterans) at there ARP Post at the school on Hollinsend Rd.
The three younger members are probably teachers, with the man on the right unknown to me. I imagine the teachers did the daytime shift and local men would take over, when home from work, for the night shift.
To the right of the photo there was a recess in the building with a flat roof where a ladder was permanent fixed for clearing incendaries. I add there was a baton roped to the bottom to stop kids climbing up. We had a tom cat, 'Whiskers', who would climb the ladder then proceed to walk on the roof ridge, descending head first down the ladder.
Sorry for the double take but I started writing this yesterday.

Does this one count? The rattle pictured in my avatar ( is that the right word?) was my grandfather’s in WW2, used to warn of gas attacks by the ARP wardens. I don’t believe it was ever used in an emergency. In the mid-1950s my brother and I persuaded him to let us have it for football. We painted it red-and-white, and it did years of service on the Kop and at away matches. It made/makes a hell of a racket.

 

[Silent Blade]

Snow this weekend? (No gloves!)

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January 1947

 

[Darnall Siam Blade]

Thanks Silent. I thought it must be somewhere between late forties and early fifties. Jack Smith always seemed to have that knee bandage on, at least everytime I saw him play. Note the thickness of the shin pads , as well, even for a keeper.

 

[Darnall Siam Blade]

Yes, XM65. That photo with the Stirrup pump brings back memories. Obviously, called Stirrup as you stood on the Stirrup to hold it steady on the floor. They were issued in order to contain fires started by the incendiary bombs. However, they were very ineffective , particularly as you had to keep filling up the bucket, but gave people a feeling of fighting back, I suppose. I was still using ours to water the flowers well into the sixties. Great photo, by the way.

 

[XM657]

Yes, XM65. That photo with the Stirrup pump brings back memories. Obviously, called Stirrup as you stood on the Stirrup to hold it steady on the floor. They were issued in order to contain fires started by the incendiary bombs. However, they were very ineffective , particularly as you had to keep filling up the bucket, but gave people a feeling of fighting back, I suppose. I was still using ours to water the flowers well into the sixties. Great photo, by the way.

Please look at the photo again, do you know what the box like object on the floor is, it looks to me it's use is to hold something but what?
I imagine the photo is 1940 but several years later the pump was still around as I used to have ago with it.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Nowt to forgive, good question. I would think everyone got one because as my mam would always say halfway through his stories, “all they use to do was their courting, they wouldn’t have had a clue what to do if they had seen a German”. I do remember though he told us lots of times about the bombings over Sheffield, he said you could hear and see the night sky lit up all over South Yorkshire and how terrible and helpless everyone felt.
For any younger readers, courting at that time was akin to “ Knocking off”.
If there was some kind of museum that would be interested in the document I think it would be a good time to pass it on ,it’s only 2 weeks since it saw the light of day when I found it in a box in my loft, also a photograph of the full squad taken in front of the pavilion at Mexborough. Sure my dad would be proud as punch to know people where still interested .

Fascinating stuff Alf , but I have to disagree with the courting = knocking off bit .

The former was quite a formal affair in my experience and that of many others . For instance , I was not even allowed to take my first proper girlfriend out until I had met her parents and been given their seal of approval .

Even then , she was on a strict 10 pm. curfew and a bit of bare tit on the back row of the cinema was the height of expectation for me and many others .

The ‘knocking off’ only came much later for many and often only when they were engaged or even married , which is why so many did so at such a young age even when the bride hadn’t been ‘knocked up.’

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Thanks Silent. I thought it must be somewhere between late forties and early fifties. Jack Smith always seemed to have that knee bandage on, at least everytime I saw him play. Note the thickness of the shin pads , as well, even for a keeper.

You’re right - Jack Smith did often wear a knee bandage but in this photo he is clearly wearing purpose made knee pads , as many goalies did at the time on the rock hard winter pitches .

Lovely photo of Sir James . I was only thinking the other day that his ability to instantly control a ball while on the move and deliver a killer pass all in the same movement was better than that of any English player I ever saw .

For those who never saw him , think Dennis Bergkamp at his best but Jimmy was both more consistent and more prolific than him .

What a player .

 

[peniblade]

January 1947

According to Dennis Clarebrough's bible the above photo is for the January 1947 FA Cup Game against Wolves which is completely different to the photo of Broomhillblade.

Which is correct ?

 

[Alf Tuppers Shorts]

'Knocking off', made me smile, and as far as memory says, both sexes used it, or did I mix with the wrong kind of girls/woman.
Dare I ask if we could see the photo of your dad and his comrades,
To tempt you to post the photo I post one with my grandfatherView attachment 99365 and my childhood mate's dad(on sturrup pump, View attachment 99365both WW1 veterans) at there ARP Post at the school on Hollinsend Rd.
The three younger members are probably teachers, with the man on the right unknown to me. I imagine the teachers did the daytime shift and local men would take over, when home from work, for the night shift.
To the right of the photo there was a recess in the building with a flat roof where a ladder was permanent fixed for clearing incendaries. I add there was a baton roped to the bottom to stop kids climbing up. We had a tom cat, 'Whiskers', who would climb the ladder then proceed to walk on the roof ridge, descending head first down the ladder.
Sorry for the double take but I started writing this yesterday.

Yes no problem. Not the greatest with technology but here goes. Seem to remember my Dad saying a few on the picture where Bevin Boys,these where the men whose conscription number ended in “00” or just zero , instead of getting drafted into the army had to go down the mines, who without out these my Dad said we would not have reached anywhere near the coal output required for the war effort. Apparently they numbered almost 45,000. Proper war effort and hopefully we never have to see it again. Thanks for your interest.

 

[Kop sufferer]

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According to Dennis Clarebrough's bible the above photo is for the January 1947 FA Cup Game against Wolves which is completely different to the photo of Broomhillblade.

Which is correct ?

I think we played more than one home game in Jan 1947. If it's the Wolves FA cup replay it was on the day after Tuesday, doesn't look like a night game, was that because the floodlights were still out of action from WW2. Fascinating photo though. What time did you have to get in the ground to secure a spot around the tunnel?, especially at the top. Good selection of head wear, I can only spot a couple of blokes wearing spectacles though.

 

[bornablade]

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According to Dennis Clarebrough's bible the above photo is for the January 1947 FA Cup Game against Wolves which is completely different to the photo of Broomhillblade.

Which is correct ?

By January 1947 Jimmy Hagan had been a Sheffield United player for over 8 years and yet this was his first full football league season as a Blades player.

What a waste of an incredible talent.

 

[Silent Blade]

I think we played more than one home game in Jan 1947. If it's the Wolves FA cup replay it was on the day after Tuesday, doesn't look like a night game, was that because the floodlights were still out of action from WW2. Fascinating photo though. What time did you have to get in the ground to secure a spot around the tunnel?, especially at the top. Good selection of head wear, I can only spot a couple of blokes wearing spectacles though.

We didnt have floodlights until 1954. Midweek games during winter months before 1954 kicked off in the afternoon

 

[Silent Blade]

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According to Dennis Clarebrough's bible the above photo is for the January 1947 FA Cup Game against Wolves which is completely different to the photo of Broomhillblade.

Which is correct ?

Both were in the same season. Broomhill's photo has Walter Rickett and Denis' photo has Alex Forbes. Both left us in 1947. Looks like Denis' photo was the 6th round against Newcastle (see video below). The 1947 freeze began on 23rd January and lasted till mid March

 

[XM657]

Yes no problem. Not the greatest with technology but here goes. Seem to remember my Dad saying a few on the picture where Bevin Boys,these where the men whose conscription number ended in “00” or just zero , instead of getting drafted into the army had to go down the mines, who without out these my Dad said we would not have reached anywhere near the coal output required for the war effort. Apparently they numbered almost 45,000. Proper war effort and hopefully we never have to see it again. Thanks for your interest.

What a splendid building the pavilion is or probably was, is it still there? A few slates missing, mind there was a war on.
Interesting about the conscription numbers, that has made today another school day for me. Astonishing the contribution those young men made, but I think in todays climate there must be thousands of young people contributing towards the logistics of keeping the country on a reasonably level footing.
I'm from mining stock. In my photo the fella in overalls went down the pit in 1903,following his dad with his younger brothers following on later. Yorks and Lancs 1914. Wounded twice and after the second time opted to return to the pit, I've always thought that an extremely shrewd move on his behalf.
Stayed down the pit till 1933 then got the job you see him in on the photo. He told me of the period before he left the pit, recession starting to bite, bad practice of working, at 43 he got, with others of his age and older, all the crap and dangerous jobs. He finally retired in 1959 and I grew up with him, that's why I'm a Blade, had no choice, Happily.

 

[XM657]

Both were in the same season. Broomhill's photo has Walter Rickett and Denis' photo has Alex Forbes. Both left us in 1947. Looks like Denis' photo was the 6th round against Newcastle (see video below). The 1947 freeze began on 23rd January and lasted till mid March

Great footage of the game ,you can see the whites of there eyes, and the Hagan 'shimmy' to lay off to Collindridge classic.

 

[XM657]

I think we played more than one home game in Jan 1947. If it's the Wolves FA cup replay it was on the day after Tuesday, doesn't look like a night game, was that because the floodlights were still out of action from WW2. Fascinating photo though. What time did you have to get in the ground to secure a spot around the tunnel?, especially at the top. Good selection of head wear, I can only spot a couple of blokes wearing spectacles though.

No NHS, be interesting to look at crowds the following season.

 

[Kop sufferer]

No NHS, be interesting to look at crowds the following season.

Ha Ha XM everybody would have them, apart from the Referee, of course

 

[Bob Socks]

Question for Bert, I see you use some images from picturesheffield. com Bert, did you get permission from them? I’m asking because I emailed them asking if I could use one of their photos for a book I’m writing, they said the charge would be £75 for one photo. Cheers.

 

[Bert]

Question for Bert, I see you use some images from picturesheffield. com Bert, did you get permission from them? I’m asking because I emailed them asking if I could use one of their photos for a book I’m writing, they said the charge would be £75 for one photo. Cheers.

No, Bert didn't get permission.

He'd better lie low for a few days.

 

[Bob Socks]

OK cheers pal.

 

[Darnall Siam Blade]

Yes, XM657 ,Interesting point about the specs (only 2 wearers in the crowd) and the NHS being formed a year later, in 1948.
I don't know , for sure, about the box thing in the Stirrup pump photo. We had to connect the pump to our tap in the kitchen and run back in to fill the bucket or use buckets filled up by neighbours. Some buildings had water connections outside so that may be one of them. There does seem to be a pipe running from the pump to that box looking thing which may be a cover.
Yes, ( I saw Joe Shaw and XM657) I agree , absolutely with your remarks regarding Jimmy Hagan- the younger readers must be fed up of our extolling the virtues of Jimmy- what a player, indeed.
BTW did you notice the commentator on The Pathe newsreel refer to us as just Sheffield, even back in 1947. That would infuriate a few of our Forum Members.

 

[broomhillblade]

No, Bert didn't get permission.

He'd better lie low for a few days.

The terms for the site say it's ok to copy them for personal use, but if used for commercial purposes there will be a fee. I believe photos are generally copyright for the lifetime of the photographer plus 70 years. I'm sure this forum is very personal!

 

[Bert]

The terms for the site say it's ok to copy them for personal use, but if used for commercial purposes there will be a fee. I believe photos are generally copyright for the lifetime of the photographer plus 70 years. I'm sure this forum is very personal!

Damn, Bert was quite enjoying hiding in his wine cellar.

 

[Greenwich Blade]

Does this one count? The rattle pictured in my avatar ( is that the right word?) was my grandfather’s in WW2, used to warn of gas attacks by the ARP wardens. I don’t believe it was ever used in an emergency. In the mid-1950s my brother and I persuaded him to let us have it for football. We painted it red-and-white, and it did years of service on the Kop and at away matches. It made/makes a hell of a racket.

Honestly, this thread just gets better and better. These stories are warming the cockles of my old heart.

 

[Wapping Blade]

Does this one count? The rattle pictured in my avatar ( is that the right word?) was my grandfather’s in WW2, used to warn of gas attacks by the ARP wardens. I don’t believe it was ever used in an emergency. In the mid-1950s my brother and I persuaded him to let us have it for football. We painted it red-and-white, and it did years of service on the Kop and at away matches. It made/makes a hell of a racket.

I’ve posted this before but snap, we had exactly the same. My paternal grandad (died before I was born unfortunately) was a policeman then an ARP Warden. My dad and uncle, both of the dark side persuasion, painted their rattle b**e and w***e and it was in my grandma’s garage when we were growing up and, yep it made a hell of a racket (and weighed a ton).

 

[Andingmen]

The Royal Society for the Blind Institute on Mappin St, July 1985.
Opened in 1939 but now gone.
However, the doorway has survived and is incorporated in the new premises

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

I’ve posted this before but snap, we had exactly the same. My paternal grandad (died before I was born unfortunately) was a policeman then an ARP Warden. My dad and uncle, both of the dark side persuasion, painted their rattle b**e and w***e and it was in my grandma’s garage when we were growing up and, yep it made a hell of a racket (and weighed a ton).

I missed your previous post on this - thanks for sharing this. Has yours survived? It has taken considerable cunning to ensure that ours has not been disposed of. And if it had fallen to pieces, it would now be suitable for the Jay Blades programme on TV - a family heirloom!