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I’ll bet someone was watching Grandstand and waited for the half times on the teleprinter, that would be my guess anyway.

I don't think Grandstand was on in the 50s. If my memory is correct, we only found the results out at 5 on the radio via Sports Report; hence the importance of the intonation - if the home club's name had a falling intonation, you knew it was a good away day. Nightmare if they had a stand-in reader, mind.

 

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Steve Perryman tackling Rodney Trotter? Strange, he never mentioned his spell with us down the Nag's Head....

 

[Superblades]

Found this on Facebook so thought I’d post it in here, hope the link works:

 

[GrayBlade]

 

[DifferentClass]

It was due to stuff being chucked at the GK's, I'm sure I recall a knife or something. But we didn't understand though, it was just the scallies having a bit of fun.

P.S. The Everton player is Alex Young.

I seem to recall reading that Chic Brodie of Brentford (he of dog-related injury fame) once had a GRENADE thrown at him

 

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Wonder what happened to the score board after the demise of the pavilion. Would have been good to erect it somewhere in BDTBL, it is so iconic to that period of the grounds history.

 

[Eddiecolquhounsleg]

Found this on Facebook so thought I’d post it in here, hope the link works:

Right at the end there, is that Jarvis Cocker doing his Rolf Harris impression?

 

[BigBed]

 

[Cerberus Blade]

I don't think Grandstand was on in the 50s. If my memory is correct, we only found the results out at 5 on the radio via Sports Report; hence the importance of the intonation - if the home club's name had a falling intonation, you knew it was a good away day. Nightmare if they had a stand-in reader, mind.

The use of rising intonation has taken over from falling intonation these days. Not so much for football scores, but for general conversation, especially amongst southerners. They finish every sentence on a rising tone, which makes me think they are asking a question?

 

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The use of rising intonation has taken over from falling intonation these days. Not so much for football scores, but for general conversation, especially amongst southerners. They finish every sentence on a rising tone, which makes me think they are asking a question?

That is a helpful answer (but is the tone rising or falling?)

 

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That is a helpful answer (but is the tone rising or falling?)

Can you still hear those high tones Hodgy? I know you’re getting on a bit lad, like me! Hearing’s not what it used to be. I put it down to spending too many hours in t’ Virgin record store at Moorfoot, sat in t’ Recaro seats wi t’ headphones on listening to King Crimson.

 

[Lucky Polo's]

Wonder what happened to the score board after the demise of the pavilion. Would have been good to erect it somewhere in BDTBL, it is so iconic to that period of the grounds .

My 1st post on these hallowed pages, I've even skipped the intro.

I confess.

I know what happened to a section of the scoreboard in question, it was used as concrete shuttering on our driveway in Grenoside the 70's. My Dad worked at Bramall Lane from '74 until he retired as club secretary in the 90's. He liberated the wood from the demolished site, brought it home and we partially buried it. Tony Robinson should be able to find it if he excavates the driveway on Halifax Road, I'll not mention the number but it was between 27 and 31.

 

[grafikhaus]

A technology question from a non-tech person. I always assumed for the updates on the scoreboard every 15 mins (eg for United away matches with the reserves playing at the Lane), that someone rang up the away ground for each update. But how did they get all the half-time and full-time scores? Was there a centralised system they could access to get all the scores at once? It was very hard in the 50s to access scores at home, even by radio.

I’ll bet someone was watching Grandstand and waited for the half times on the teleprinter, that would be my guess anyway.

It's easy to forget how primitive communications were back then. In the late 60s - when United played away - it was normal to go and watch the reserves play at Bramall Lane in the Central League. Part of the attraction was that there were always plenty of people with transistor radios who would know the latest scores.

On January 18, 1975 I went to see United play at White Hart Lane (we won 3-1 - Currie, Eddy, Woodward. This game was in the top flight and Derby would win the title under Brian Clough. Spurs were piss-poor and would finish fourth-bottom, we finished sixth and just missed out on a place in Europe. The crowd for this Saturday afternoon fixture? 15,812. The following season, I went down again, we lost 0-5 and finished the season rock-bottom).

Anyway, I digress. I was stood on 'The Shelf' and, at half-time went down to the tea bar. The game was being televised and, under the stand, was a small 'cage' made of that tennis-court wire. This was the 'command centre' and housed a bloke, a camera, a small monitor and a bunch of cards with most conceivable scores (3-2, 1-3 etc.) in Letraset which they propped up in front of the camera as the score changed.

Even more primitive, televised cricket in the 60s (?) used to have the score card hand-drawn in a calligraphic style (Copper Plate) which they put in front of the camera. When I went to the cricket at Bramall Lane, they sold little score cards which were updated whenever a wicket fell.

 

[DifferentClass]

On January 18, 1975 I went to see United play at White Hart Lane (we won 3-1 - Currie, Eddy, Woodward. This game was in the top flight and Derby would win the title under Brian Clough. Spurs were piss-poor and would finish fourth-bottom, we finished sixth and just missed out on a place in Europe. The crowd for this Saturday afternoon fixture? 15,812. The following season, I went down again, we lost 0-5 and finished the season rock-bottom).

Sorry to nitpick, but Cloughie had only just joined Forest at this time. Dave Mackay was in charge of Derby for their second title.

 

[grafikhaus]

Sorry to nitpick, but Cloughie had only just joined Forest at this time. Dave Mackay was in charge of Derby for their second title.

Alzheimer's dear boy, Alzheimer's.

 

[DifferentClass]

Alzheimer's dear boy, Alzheimer's.

Ironically enough, Cloughie's first match in charge had been several days earlier against Spurs. Forest won IIRC.

 

[derfblade.3]

Men in bathing costumes....Longley Baths.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

It's easy to forget how primitive communications were back then. In the late 60s - when United played away - it was normal to go and watch the reserves play at Bramall Lane in the Central League. Part of the attraction was that there were always plenty of people with transistor radios who would know the latest scores.

On January 18, 1975 I went to see United play at White Hart Lane (we won 3-1 - Currie, Eddy, Woodward. This game was in the top flight and Derby would win the title under Brian Clough. Spurs were piss-poor and would finish fourth-bottom, we finished sixth and just missed out on a place in Europe. The crowd for this Saturday afternoon fixture? 15,812. The following season, I went down again, we lost 0-5 and finished the season rock-bottom).

Anyway, I digress. I was stood on 'The Shelf' and, at half-time went down to the tea bar. The game was being televised and, under the stand, was a small 'cage' made of that tennis-court wire. This was the 'command centre' and housed a bloke, a camera, a small monitor and a bunch of cards with most conceivable scores (3-2, 1-3 etc.) in Letraset which they propped up in front of the camera as the score changed.

Even more primitive, televised cricket in the 60s (?) used to have the score card hand-drawn in a calligraphic style (Copper Plate) which they put in front of the camera. When I went to the cricket at Bramall Lane, they sold little score cards which were updated whenever a wicket fell.

For the benefit of our younger viewers, 'televised' at that time meant it was going to be shown on Match of the Day (was it 2 matches by then?), so it was a real treat to see your team on TV, and particularly such a good win, which began a good run, including the also televised 'quality goal' match v West Ham. We missed out on qualifying for Europe by 1 point. No doubt with a crowd of 15000, the Spurs fan forum was the first to start a 'Why are our fans so shit?' thread.
Does anyone know how they got all the half-time and full-time scores together to put up on the board in the 1950s and early 60s?

 

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Men in bathing costumes....Longley Baths.

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Not the same costumes, but happy memories of courting there. Always knew no good would come of it - it's our golden wedding this year!

 

[wavy-blade]

It's easy to forget how primitive communications were back then. In the late 60s - when United played away - it was normal to go and watch the reserves play at Bramall Lane in the Central League. Part of the attraction was that there were always plenty of people with transistor radios who would know the latest scores.

On January 18, 1975 I went to see United play at White Hart Lane (we won 3-1 - Currie, Eddy, Woodward. This game was in the top flight and Derby would win the title under Brian Clough. Spurs were piss-poor and would finish fourth-bottom, we finished sixth and just missed out on a place in Europe. The crowd for this Saturday afternoon fixture? 15,812. The following season, I went down again, we lost 0-5 and finished the season rock-bottom).

Anyway, I digress. I was stood on 'The Shelf' and, at half-time went down to the tea bar. The game was being televised and, under the stand, was a small 'cage' made of that tennis-court wire. This was the 'command centre' and housed a bloke, a camera, a small monitor and a bunch of cards with most conceivable scores (3-2, 1-3 etc.) in Letraset which they propped up in front of the camera as the score changed.

Even more primitive, televised cricket in the 60s (?) used to have the score card hand-drawn in a calligraphic style (Copper Plate) which they put in front of the camera. When I went to the cricket at Bramall Lane, they sold little score cards which were updated whenever a wicket fell.

God you've just reminded me how old I am getting !! Remember all of this lol .

 

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God you've just reminded me how old I am getting !! Remember all of this lol .

Start worrying when you can't remember it...

 

[bornablade]

My 1st post on these hallowed pages, I've even skipped the intro.

I confess.

I know what happened to a section of the scoreboard in question, it was used as concrete shuttering on our driveway in Grenoside the 70's. My Dad worked at Bramall Lane from '74 until he retired as club secretary in the 90's. He liberated the wood from the demolished site, brought it home and we partially buried it. Tony Robinson should be able to find it if he excavates the driveway on Halifax Road, I'll not mention the number but it was between 27 and 31.

Bloody sacrilege. Phelan got his comeuppance last night and he only buried a couple of bodies.

For the benefit of our younger viewers, 'televised' at that time meant it was going to be shown on Match of the Day (was it 2 matches by then?), so it was a real treat to see your team on TV, and particularly such a good win, which began a good run, including the also televised 'quality goal' match v West Ham. We missed out on qualifying for Europe by 1 point. No doubt with a crowd of 15000, the Spurs fan forum was the first to start a 'Why are our fans so shit?' thread.
Does anyone know how they got all the half-time and full-time scores together to put up on the board in the 1950s and early 60s?

They used to get the scores via telephone. There was a pattern - during the course of the Central League game if the 'phone rang in the John Street stand then we all knew that there was a change in score (usually in our away game) and this always seemed to be confirmed on the next 15 minute update of the scoreboard.

It's easy to forget how primitive communications were back then. In the late 60s - when United played away - it was normal to go and watch the reserves play at Bramall Lane in the Central League. Part of the attraction was that there were always plenty of people with transistor radios who would know the latest scores.

On January 18, 1975 I went to see United play at White Hart Lane (we won 3-1 - Currie, Eddy, Woodward. This game was in the top flight and Derby would win the title under Brian Clough. Spurs were piss-poor and would finish fourth-bottom, we finished sixth and just missed out on a place in Europe. The crowd for this Saturday afternoon fixture? 15,812. The following season, I went down again, we lost 0-5 and finished the season rock-bottom).

Anyway, I digress. I was stood on 'The Shelf' and, at half-time went down to the tea bar. The game was being televised and, under the stand, was a small 'cage' made of that tennis-court wire. This was the 'command centre' and housed a bloke, a camera, a small monitor and a bunch of cards with most conceivable scores (3-2, 1-3 etc.) in Letraset which they propped up in front of the camera as the score changed.

Even more primitive, televised cricket in the 60s (?) used to have the score card hand-drawn in a calligraphic style (Copper Plate) which they put in front of the camera. When I went to the cricket at Bramall Lane, they sold little score cards which were updated whenever a wicket fell.

 

[Lucky Polo's]

We had a better pour than Phelan, I insisted we put the boards in with the writing on the outside.

My Dad died last month, we've started clearing their last house and I've found a few Blades related skeletons...

 

[Canterbury Blade]

Found this on Facebook so thought I’d post it in here, hope the link works:

3minutes 23 seconds shows House of Barrington sports. Never heard of Relum sports goods, and google says it’s all guns and camping equipment. Weird don’t remember any of that kind of stuff as I got me Footer boots and Hobbott kit.

 

[SW12 to S12 to S18]

It's easy to forget how primitive communications were back then. In the late 60s - when United played away - it was normal to go and watch the reserves play at Bramall Lane in the Central League. Part of the attraction was that there were always plenty of people with transistor radios who would know the latest scores.

On January 18, 1975 I went to see United play at White Hart Lane (we won 3-1 - Currie, Eddy, Woodward. This game was in the top flight and Derby would win the title under Brian Clough. Spurs were piss-poor and would finish fourth-bottom, we finished sixth and just missed out on a place in Europe. The crowd for this Saturday afternoon fixture? 15,812. The following season, I went down again, we lost 0-5 and finished the season rock-bottom).

Anyway, I digress. I was stood on 'The Shelf' and, at half-time went down to the tea bar. The game was being televised and, under the stand, was a small 'cage' made of that tennis-court wire. This was the 'command centre' and housed a bloke, a camera, a small monitor and a bunch of cards with most conceivable scores (3-2, 1-3 etc.) in Letraset which they propped up in front of the camera as the score changed.

Even more primitive, televised cricket in the 60s (?) used to have the score card hand-drawn in a calligraphic style (Copper Plate) which they put in front of the camera. When I went to the cricket at Bramall Lane, they sold little score cards which were updated whenever a wicket fell.

I was standing on the shelf that day, it was absolutely pissing down. It was a dash to get home to Sheffield in time for Match of the Day, as usual, we were the second game.
That was my first visit to WHL and I ended up going on my own as my mates dropped out due to the weather. I ended up going the long way round, instead of catching a train to White Hart Lane I got the tube to Seven Sisters and then a bus to the ground, I had no idea where I was as the bus windows were steamed up due to the rain and as you said, it was a very sparse crowd so no obvious crowd getting off the bus to give me a clue.
I was also there the following season for the 5 - 0 but took the easy way out and went on SUT.

 

[Sandygate Blade]

Bert would get a triple like for the cricket one if it were possible.

For all the stickball experts, is that Phil Sharpe taking another fine catch?

Don't think it is. Phil Sharpe was always 1st slip.

 

[Trigger Blade]

Bloody sacrilege. Phelan got his comeuppance last night and he only buried a couple of bodies.

Although he fell a long way down into the freezing cold waters of the Irish Sea, which would make survival for more than a few minutes unlikely, I suspect that won't be the end of Weatherfield's omniscient and omnipotent murderer/builder.

If his body isn't found in the next episode (and the authorities in soap operas make Greater Manchester Fire Brigade's commanding officers look very competent, so it almost certainly won't be), Pat will be back skulking in doorways and never being noticed by anybody for several episodes before another explosive plot twist involving his up the duff daughter.

I know, I know, too much time on my hands

 

[Bert]

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

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It passed me by that Rumpole of the Bailey was running the line.

 

[Bert]

It passed me by that Rumpole of the Bailey was running the line.

What a massive crowd jammed on the Kop. Bert is in there somewhere. Spurs equalised from a Chivers long throw and a Gilzean flick on as far as Bert's memory can recall.