Ok, I'll be the one to say what the majority think, WILDER OUT !

[coolhandluke]

Plenty of insults I see but no one attempting to challenge what's clearly happening right now and our only way out of this malaise .

Even more bizarre is the way a lot of what's been posted on here following last night's latest abomination, an abomination thats testament to Wilders inability/unwillingness to change, is conveniently forgotten by the posters who made them in the first place .

Grow a backbone ladies and gents, our Club need us .

 

[itsinyerblood]

Plenty of insults I see but no one attempting to challenge what's clearly happening right now and our only way out of this malaise .

Even more bizarre is the way a lot of what's been posted on here following last night's latest abomination, an abomination thats testament to Wilders inability/unwillingness to change, is conveniently forgotten by the posters who made them in the first place .

Grow a backbone ladies and gents, our Club need us .

Try and understand the difference between what you describe as 'insults' (a bit sensitive Lukey, especially after your attack on Wilder) and those posters who disagree with you. Now stop with the cliches and attempt something that is original and adds to your case, otherwise all you'll remain is a less than interesting poster.

 

[Deleted member 875]

Plenty of insults I see but no one attempting to challenge what's clearly happening right now and our only way out of this malaise .

Even more bizarre is the way a lot of what's been posted on here following last night's latest abomination, an abomination thats testament to Wilders inability/unwillingness to change, is conveniently forgotten by the posters who made them in the first place .

Grow a backbone ladies and gents, our Club need us .

I don’t think you are on the wind up, and you are serious.

I can see where you are coming from, we looked like we hadn’t addressed the problems we had during the second half of last season during the summer, and although Wilder has given us two very good seasons, and deserves credit and time and patience on that basis, I also think that he shouldn’t be above criticism himself.

I do think he does deserve time, and it is a bit too soon to be calling for his head, especially as personally I thought this would be a tricky season.

 

[DaleHillBlade]

7.5/10

It's a good effort, but for me should have been a little shorter. A lot shorter.

But makes up marks for putting into context some of the hysteria populating the forum.

 

[Blade56]

Not saying I'm supporting the OP but as supporters it is our job to push for improvements, we did it with Wier, Adams, Adkins and Clough. My criticism is we seem to be trying to do it the way it was done a decade or two ago.

Yes, I take @swiss blades point CW has introduced many modern methods but so has just about every club in L1 upwards. There's plenty of young managers with a fresh take on the game not afraid to embrace foreign players out there.

I was impressed with Grahame potter yesterday. Ok he's inherited some good players but he's lost his best players. Compare Roygbiv view from swans before the game and after. Before they were expecting a mauling, dejected with their squad and upcoming game / season. After they were upbeat, surprised at how the remaining squad got it right tactically and individually and they were upbeat about the rest of their season based on their performance.

A dogged team of average players is not good enough anymore. CW is delighted with the transfer window, I'm not sure why. Lost a world class prospect and brought in a risky forward, a excellent young prospect keeper (we've not had a settled keeper for years, why not?) and broken our transfer record for another average CB plus a few young prospects that PL clubs want developing.

When clubs like Brentford can produce brilliant players from nowhere to replace brilliant players they can't hold onto something is wrong and we've got to adapt, modernise and step up. This won't happen until the ownership is settled.

 

[davidblade]

Perhaps now we can all see where the Oxford fans animosity towards CW emanates from . A great start to his tenure is quickly followed by a season that was ok but could and should have been much better .

But it's as his tenure becomes longer that the real problems begin . CW was slaughtered for trying the same tactics and same line ups despite the fact that everyone could see it wasn't working . Many accused him of being stubborn to the point of it damaging the club because of his deep seated managerial philosophy, it's his way or no way regardless of the fact it's clearly not working .

Thanks for the memories Chris but it's time to step aside . Don't kill the Club you claim to love .

Not many likes I see

 

[coolhandluke]

Try and understand the difference between what you describe as 'insults' (a bit sensitive Lukey, especially after your attack on Wilder) and those posters who disagree with you. Now stop with the cliches and attempt something that is original and adds to your case, otherwise all you'll remain is a less than interesting poster.

Originality ? Why ? What we are experiencing is anything but original . If you can't remember the Oxford fans claims against Wilder during his tenure then you were almost certainly swept along with the same tidal wave of optimism on here and can't remember them or simply chose to ignore them .

What they claimed then is almost exactly what's being claimed on here now . Wilder seems either unable to see what the majority on here see, or he does see our shortcomings and simply wont do anything to redress them . Do you really need me to rehash countless posts made on here regarding the last 6 months of his tenure to remind you ? Really ??

 

[AWetFlannel]

No sign of any WUM support at all for archWUM coolhandluke. This is a shame, as I was very much looking forward to coining the phrase "Pukey Lukeys".*

*we need something fresher than "slasher".

Nothing would cheer me up more than 'Pukey Lukey's' taking off hahaha.

 

[zablade]

Perhaps we should look to put the blame where it lies, with the people responsible for us being out bid for almost all our major targets.. again.

 

[SB_90]

Someones bored. I know i was slept for a unusually long time yesterday after all the holiday exersions. But i didnt realise id woke up on boxing day & we were bottom 10pts adrift

But doesn't surprise me because football fans will always be fickle. Achievements are always forgotten. I always bring up ranieri that man was god. He had the most secure job in european maybe world football. After the miraculous premier league title by 10pts he was bulletproof. But 4 months later, fans were calling for his head

 

[AdamSufc1997]

you really should ask for mccabe and prince out not wilder, if they gave him money to spend, he wouldn't be signing the shite from lower leagues we have

 

[coolhandluke]

I don’t think you are on the wind up, and you are serious.

I can see where you are coming from, we looked like we hadn’t addressed the problems we had during the second half of last season during the summer, and although Wilder has given us two very good seasons, and deserves credit and time and patience on that basis, I also think that he shouldn’t be above criticism himself.

I do think he does deserve time, and it is a bit too soon to be calling for his head, especially as personally I thought this would be a tricky season.

No, I'm not on a wind up Brownie . I didn't want him in the first place and I've had nagging doubts ever since his appointment . It's 6 months that we've badly needed a different approach and I'm confident ( sadly ) that there will be no change for another 6 months to come . By this point we could be at the point of no return .

 

[Nick Jansky]

Perhaps we should look to put the blame where it lies, with the people responsible for us being out bid for almost all our major targets.. again.

Which targets have we been outbid for this summer?

 

[North East Blade]

 

[robbiez666]

What this thread needs is a poll

 

[itsinyerblood]

Originality ? Why ? What we are experiencing is anything but original . If you can't remember the Oxford fans claims against Wilder during his tenure then you were almost certainly swept along with the same tidal wave of optimism on here and can't remember them or simply chose to ignore them .

What they claimed then is almost exactly what's being claimed on here now . Wilder seems either unable to see what the majority on here see, or he does see our shortcomings and simply wont do anything to redress them . Do you really need me to rehash countless posts made on here regarding the last 6 months of his tenure to remind you ? Really ??

I'll counter those 'countless' posts you mention with an equally large number who are supportive of Wilder. It's not blind faith, but you seem to interpret the last couple of seasons as 'predictable' and that what we witnessed yesterday was an inevitable defeat. Yes, the performance was poor, it happens to all teams, but your rancid comments add very little that is helpful. By all means revert to hysteria if you think it helps, but you'll have to do a lot better if you want to present a convincing argument.

The last two seasons have see this club progress, yet you decry anything that doesn't fit with your strange and negative obsession.

 

[coolhandluke]

I'll counter those 'countless' posts you mention with an equally large number who are supportive of Wilder. It's not blind faith, but you seem to interpret the last couple of seasons as 'predictable' and that what we witnessed yesterday was an inevitable defeat. Yes, the performance was poor, it happens to all teams, but your rancid comments add very little that is helpful. By all means revert to hysteria if you think it helps, but you'll have to do a lot better if you want to present a convincing argument.

The last two seasons have see this club progress, yet you decry anything that doesn't fit with your strange and negative obsession.

Ah, I see your assertion more clearly now . We haven't struggled really badly for the last 6 months now, desperate for a change in formation or line up . No one's seriously questioned Wilders insistence on continually playing those who clearly aren't up to the standard needed at this level . And no one has called yesterday's ' performance ' a boring rehash of the last 6 months either . It's me and me only and my ' strange and negative obsession ' .

I expected a little bit better that that from you IYB .

 

[Keef Chedwyn]

 

[Damski]

This post will age badly when we smash QPR in 6 days

 

[ucandomagic]

We were so bad yesterday that we were beating a relegated Prem Club after an hour, when they were able to bring on an international winger who played a blinder and they narrowly beat us, as we missed a couple of good chances. How far we have fallen in the last 2 years!

 

[coolhandluke]

This post will age badly when we smash QPR in 6 days

I sincerely hope we do smash QPR next Saturday . I also hope we smash the smogmonsters on Tuesday night too . What's more I hope we go on a run now that puts us at the business end of the League all season leading to a playoff place or better . I can't see any of that though, can you ? Honestly ?

 

[JayGreen17]

Plenty of insults I see but no one attempting to challenge what's clearly happening right now and our only way out of this malaise .

Even more bizarre is the way a lot of what's been posted on here following last night's latest abomination, an abomination thats testament to Wilders inability/unwillingness to change, is conveniently forgotten by the posters who made them in the first place .

Grow a backbone ladies and gents, our Club need us .

You would quite happily see us slink back into League 1? Because without change of ownership that’s exactly what would happen, over the last 2 years we have played some of the best football seen at the Lane for 30 Years..on your bike. 6 month’s of inconsistency and let’s theow everything up in he air.

So I’ll ask you this, Wilder goes who comes in ...with the same budget Wilder has Had, who do you think could come in and do a better job?

 

[JayGreen17]

Can the mods delete this pathetic thread... and get rid of this well known clown as well.

 

[zablade]

Which targets have we been outbid for this summer?

Waghorn.

 

[coolhandluke]

You would quite happily see us slink back into League 1? Because without change of ownership that’s exactly what would happen, over the last 2 years we have played some of the best football seen at the Lane for 30 Years..on your bike. 6 month’s of inconsistency and let’s theow everything up in he air.

So I’ll ask you this, Wilder goes who comes in ...with the same budget Wilder has Had, who do you think could come in and do a better job?

Post #51 should tell you exactly what I hope will happen this season .

6 months of inconsistency ? You mean relegation form ??

Who do I think could do a better job with the same money ? This season ?? Virtually any one of the managers with more championship experience than CW who isn't afraid to make changes when the players/formation used simply don't work . Take your pick, there's plenty of them out there .

 

[gavtheblade]

Yep.
Lets get alan pardew in and set the division alight.
Plonker.

 

[Dkc]

Plenty of insults I see but no one attempting to challenge what's clearly happening right now and our only way out of this malaise .

Even more bizarre is the way a lot of what's been posted on here following last night's latest abomination, an abomination thats testament to Wilders inability/unwillingness to change, is conveniently forgotten by the posters who made them in the first place .

Grow a backbone ladies and gents, our Club need us .

'Crass' attempt at a wind-up mate

 

[Fraggle Blade]

Can the mods delete this pathetic thread... and get rid of this well known clown as well.

That's a bit harsh, freedom of speech n'all

 

[coolhandluke]

Yep.
Lets get alan pardew in and set the division alight.
Plonker.

Alan Pardew ? Seriously ? Fuck me Gav, I don't want Wilder but Alan Pardew ?

 

[Fraggle Blade]

You would quite happily see us slink back into League 1? Because without change of ownership that’s exactly what would happen, over the last 2 years we have played some of the best football seen at the Lane for 30 Years..on your bike. 6 month’s of inconsistency and let’s theow everything up in he air.

So I’ll ask you this, Wilder goes who comes in ...with the same budget Wilder has Had, who do you think could come in and do a better job?

I'd only change the above by saying we've played some of the best football for 1.5 years out of the last 2. I didn't think we really played that well after christmas onwards, only the odd flash appearing of the form we had pre-christmas.
I think we obviously missed Coutts, but also changed too much tactically to try and stop being caught on the counter attack as much as we had been.