NTT20 Pod on Deadline Day article

[Sean Thornton]

You were on my ignore list so probably didn't see it. But yes, that's what I did. I also think the story was fair - if a player tweets something relevant I think it's fair game. After all, it was all over here so why not report it?
Trouble is when places report exclusively by using tweets. Which we don't

I think you did reply to that thread although not on that point. Can't have been on the IL at that point but never mind.

My point was the article was just about the tweets. Nothing else was new. I wondered if anyone tried to get hold of the player or his agent.

And as you say, it was all over here.....

 

[stringer]

I think you did reply to that thread although not on that point. Can't have been on the IL at that point but never mind.

My point was the article was just about the tweets. Nothing else was new. I wondered if anyone tried to get hold of the player or his agent.

And as you say, it was all over here.....

Ah, I see. Must have just missed it mate, if nothing else I try to reply to most things I'm mentioned in.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

The posts were from Sunday

I asked him to provide some proof back his claims up, 'specifically, where has anyone stated the Cole, Quina or Sinclair bids were 'pretend'?'
He couldn't, so I called bullshit.

Is that 'having a go at someone'?
I'd suggest not.

Why have you linked linked a reply from JJBlade to an entirely different player, Ricky Holmes, as 'proof' here?

Curiouser and curiouser...

The posts were from Sunday where he suggests our club was pretending to sign players by bidding too low, not paying the agent enough money and even the old broken-fax classic humour.

 

[8lade]

It was a superb piece and video, as I have said on here and tweeted. But we'd never get the access; they'd then have to allow RS, Look North et al and there'd be journalists crawling all over the place on Deadline Day.

No, nobody has to give access to anybody (just because you've allowed one in (are you really a journalist?)) and if you were the only one to ask, as The Bleacher Report was you'd be there on your own.

Plus we couldn't agree to not break confidentiality because we'd need to report what's going on as it happens, not just the day after.

That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard! The Star is so far behind with most of it's reports most of us think they nick ideas from here and all over the net. (Are you really a journalist? You just seem to be making poor excuses for not doing anything worthwhile.)

 

[Harrisblade]

I asked him to provide some proof back his claims up, 'specifically, where has anyone stated the Cole, Quina or Sinclair bids were 'pretend'?'
He couldn't, so I called bullshit.

Is that 'having a go at someone'?
I'd suggest not.

Why have you linked linked a reply from JJBlade to an entirely different player, Ricky Holmes, as 'proof' here?

Curiouser and curiouser...

This is getting annoying:
Esa, Fred Tunstall has a long standing feud going with JJBlade re JJ's hatred of Kevin McCabe.
JJ seems to think that every thing said by the club is a lie (including pretty much every potential signing in transfer window)
FT therefore jokingly refers to the current failed bids and the behind the scenes video and everything in it as another sham organised by the club

 

[Sean Thornton]

This is getting annoying:
Esa, Fred Tunstall has a long standing feud going with JJBlade re JJ's hatred of Kevin McCabe.
JJ seems to think that every thing said by the club is a lie (including pretty much every potential signing in transfer window)
FT therefore jokingly refers to the current failed bids and the behind the scenes video and everything in it as another sham organised by the club

JJBladeActive Member
I wonder how many of our fans are going to disappear if a multi billionaire owner comes in and starts signing Europe's top quality players, pays agents what they want and someone who get's the job done without making a film about where and how we failed on transfer deadline day, with no voice on the other end of the phone and no footage of Sinclair waiting in Sheffield Train Station (strange that)

#241Saturday at 4:07 PM

 

[Esablade]

The posts were from Sunday
The posts were from Sunday where he suggests our club was pretending to sign players by bidding too low, not paying the agent enough money and even the old broken-fax classic humour.

This is getting annoying:
Esa, Fred Tunstall has a long standing feud going with JJBlade re JJ's hatred of Kevin McCabe.
JJ seems to think that every thing said by the club is a lie (including pretty much every potential signing in transfer window)
FT therefore jokingly refers to the current failed bids and the behind the scenes video and everything in it as another sham organised by the club

JJBladeActive Member
I wonder how many of our fans are going to disappear if a multi billionaire owner comes in and starts signing Europe's top quality players, pays agents what they want and someone who get's the job done without making a film about where and how we failed on transfer deadline day, with no voice on the other end of the phone and no footage of Sinclair waiting in Sheffield Train Station (strange that)

#241Saturday at 4:07 PM

Fight bull with more bull....enjoy yourselves ladies...

 

[WhiteHawk]

That's a great listen. This whole "Behind the scenes" thing has been absolutely fascinating, from the original article, to the video, and then the Radio Sheffield interview with Wilder and this one with Ed Hawkins. Brilliant stuff.

 

[NTT20Pod]

Didn't mean to prompt S24SU WWIII, or get involved with some sort of for/against the local paper, but I'm glad you enjoyed the podcast and I hope that you'll continue to listen.

Someone earlier asked for another episode to sample, so why not try out Championship preview podcast...

Some of the predictions have (as always) aged poorly, but I think you'll like some of what we said (re: yourselves and SWFC especially!) and generally I hope you'll find us to be passionate and well-informed when it comes to the EFL - and that you may fancy subscribing. We are an independent podcast, but for the next week or so (until the Totally Football Show release their EFL offering) we are also the biggest, so get involved!

Those with iPhones/iTunes can subscribe here: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/not-the-top-20-podcast/id1112915286?mt=2

Other options are available as well, just ask.

 

[WhiteHawk]

The Bleacher video has had 10,000 retweets and 20,000 likes. What sort of numbers do The Star & Radio Sheffield get on the stuff they post? Only asking cause I can't be arsed to look myself.

 

[stringer]

No, nobody has to give access to anybody (just because you've allowed one in (are you really a journalist?)) and if you were the only one to ask, as The Bleacher Report was you'd be there on your own.


That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard! The Star is so far behind with most of it's reports most of us think they nick ideas from here and all over the net. (Are you really a journalist? You just seem to be making poor excuses for not doing anything worthwhile.)

It's a fair question. If someone on an Internet forum questions your credentials, are you really a journalist at all? One to ponder. What do you do for a living, out of interest?

 

[Jon Bon II]

Covering up the fact we were putting in pretend bids,and this video is all stage managed,we never had any intention of signing the 3 players.

Have you not read this forum since deadline day?

Actually, if you get a still from that video and pull the contrast right down, you can just about make out the space suits on Wilder and Knill which have been airbrushed out. I tell ya, they're not at Shirecliffe at all, they fuckin filmed that on the moon and photoshopped the background in afterwards. All the shadows are in the wrong places and everything... look!

 

[8lade]

It's a fair question. If someone on an Internet forum questions your credentials, are you really a journalist at all? One to ponder. What do you do for a living, out of interest?

I'm a gardener as I've stated on more than one occasion.

 

[stringer]

I'm a gardener as I've stated on more than one occasion.

Must be nice to be anonymous

 

[8lade]

Must be nice to be anonymous

No idea what you are getting at now mate but stop acting the dick. You cannot in all honesty defend the shit that the star produces, Deadbat and Roygbiv to name just 2 of the posters on here regularly produce articles that would make the local rag have something worthy to read in them. Most discussions on this forum are more entertaining than the ageing crap that the star publishes, so just settle down.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

JJBladeActive Member
I wonder how many of our fans are going to disappear if a multi billionaire owner comes in and starts signing Europe's top quality players, pays agents what they want and someone who get's the job done without making a film about where and how we failed on transfer deadline day, with no voice on the other end of the phone and no footage of Sinclair waiting in Sheffield Train Station (strange that)

#241Saturday at 4:07 PM

A post from JJ where he claims Wilder was pretending to speak to new signings on the phone and Wilder was lying about Sinclair being at the train station. Makes Esablade look a numpty for calling Fred a bullsh1tter.

 

[stringer]

No idea what you are getting at now mate but stop acting the dick. You cannot in all honesty defend the shit that the star produces, Deadbat and Roygbiv to name just 2 of the posters on here regularly produce articles that would make the local rag have something worthy to read in them. Most discussions on this forum are more entertaining than the ageing crap that the star publishes, so just settle down.

Yes, I clearly need to settle down despite you getting personal on a forum, nice one mate

 

[nicksufc]

It was a superb piece and video, as I have said on here and tweeted. But we'd never get the access; they'd then have to allow RS, Look North et al and there'd be journalists crawling all over the place on Deadline Day. Plus we couldn't agree to not break confidentiality because we'd need to report what's going on as it happens, not just the day after. Will you read Bleacher's preview/report before/from Sunderland, nicksufc?

Read what - Bleacher's preview of our game at Sunderland? No, probably not?

 

[nicksufc]

Didn't mean to prompt S24SU WWIII, or get involved with some sort of for/against the local paper, but I'm glad you enjoyed the podcast and I hope that you'll continue to listen.

Someone earlier asked for another episode to sample, so why not try out Championship preview podcast...

Some of the predictions have (as always) aged poorly, but I think you'll like some of what we said (re: yourselves and SWFC especially!) and generally I hope you'll find us to be passionate and well-informed when it comes to the EFL - and that you may fancy subscribing. We are an independent podcast, but for the next week or so (until the Totally Football Show release their EFL offering) we are also the biggest, so get involved!

Those with iPhones/iTunes can subscribe here: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/not-the-top-20-podcast/id1112915286?mt=2

Other options are available as well, just ask.

Not on Audioboom?

 

[nicksufc]

The Bleacher video has had 10,000 retweets and 20,000 likes. What sort of numbers do The Star & Radio Sheffield get on the stuff they post? Only asking cause I can't be arsed to look myself.

I think it's fair to say nothing of the sort - which is why Danny's boasts of his story being picked up by the Derby Telegraph a little hollow to say the least...

 

[ShefRedandWhite]

Didn't mean to prompt S24SU WWIII, or get involved with some sort of for/against the local paper, but I'm glad you enjoyed the podcast and I hope that you'll continue to listen.

Someone earlier asked for another episode to sample, so why not try out Championship preview podcast...

Some of the predictions have (as always) aged poorly, but I think you'll like some of what we said (re: yourselves and SWFC especially!) and generally I hope you'll find us to be passionate and well-informed when it comes to the EFL - and that you may fancy subscribing. We are an independent podcast, but for the next week or so (until the Totally Football Show release their EFL offering) we are also the biggest, so get involved!

Those with iPhones/iTunes can subscribe here: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/not-the-top-20-podcast/id1112915286?mt=2

Other options are available as well, just ask.

I've been listening since these pre-season podcasts and so far they seem great content, much needed to give an impartial and well thought out view of what's happening in the league. Refreshing to have some quality stuff that's not 90% Premier League orientated. Keep up the good work.

 

[itsinyerblood]

I think it's fair to say nothing of the sort - which is why Danny's boasts of his story being picked up by the Derby Telegraph a little hollow to say the least...

Throughout, Danny has inferred that being in the 'industry' enables a more knowing insight than mere mortals will ever understand about the print industry. A stupid argument to champion, especially when I've worked for The Observer, The Guardian, The New York Times and various other publications of note. The Star is just one title amongst many that are owned by a far larger owner. It serves a basic news gathering role amongst it's readership and is in decline, something that Danny either resists or refuses to accept. I believe that it still manages to bring in a reasonable amount from it's local advertising market, which explains why it still has a presence on Sheffield's streets.

Sadly, The Star chose to ditch it's specialist reporters some time ago, an example of this being it's popular music feature. What was once a well informed and regular piece was dropped because.....? I can only imagine it was one less financial outgoing for The Star to have to worry about. It's a shame that Sheffield is struggling to sustain a local newspaper, perhaps the fact that news can be obtained via various other outlets has been the reason for The Star's reversal - the internet being the most obvious challenger to the printed word.

In summary, I think Danny sometimes prefers to use waffle where a more straightforward approach would be more helpful. It's good that Danny chooses to use the forum, I just wish he wouldn't be so lop-sided in his defence of The Star. There's no need to view your employer as if it's beyond criticism. Maybe taking a leaf out of the pages of the forum devoted to criticising United, despite the often misguided comments the club survives and thrives.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

A post from JJ where he claims Wilder was pretending to speak to new signings on the phone and Wilder was lying about Sinclair being at the train station. Makes Esablade look a numpty for calling Fred a bullsh1tter.

Careful Eddie,you will be on his stalker list now

 

[Esablade]

A post from JJ where he claims Wilder was pretending to speak to new signings on the phone and Wilder was lying about Sinclair being at the train station. Makes Esablade look a numpty for calling Fred a bullsh1tter.

Would you like a spade?

 

[stringer]

Throughout, Danny has inferred that being in the 'industry' enables a more knowing insight than mere mortals will ever understand about the print industry. A stupid argument to champion, especially when I've worked for The Observer, The Guardian, The New York Times and various other publications of note. The Star is just one title amongst many that are owned by a far larger owner. It serves a basic news gathering role amongst it's readership and is in decline, something that Danny either resists or refuses to accept. I believe that it still manages to bring in a reasonable amount from it's local advertising market, which explains why it still has a presence on Sheffield's streets.

Sadly, The Star chose to ditch it's specialist reporters some time ago, an example of this being it's popular music feature. What was once a well informed and regular piece was dropped because.....? I can only imagine it was one less financial outgoing for The Star to have to worry about. It's a shame that Sheffield is struggling to sustain a local newspaper, perhaps the fact that news can be obtained via various other outlets has been the reason for The Star's reversal - the internet being the most obvious challenger to the printed word.

In summary, I think Danny sometimes prefers to use waffle where a more straightforward approach would be more helpful. It's good that Danny chooses to use the forum, I just wish he wouldn't be so lop-sided in his defence of The Star. There's no need to view your employer as if it's beyond criticism. Maybe taking a leaf out of the pages of the forum devoted to criticising United, despite the often misguided comments the club survives and thrives.

Maybe if I wasn't brought into most discussions and asked to defend it, it'd be better for anyone. If I ever disagree with anything in the New York Times, I'll be sure to come to you

 

[Esablade]

Careful Eddie,you will be on his stalker list now

Very sad old men...I'll mention McCabe also just to get your piss boiling.

 

[stringer]

I think it's fair to say nothing of the sort - which is why Danny's boasts of his story being picked up by the Derby Telegraph a little hollow to say the least...

Did you miss the Daily Mail too? Guess that doesn't suit the agenda though

 

[itsinyerblood]

Maybe if I wasn't brought into most discussions and asked to defend it, it'd be better for anyone. If I ever disagree with anything in the New York Times, I'll be sure to come to you

You've misunderstood young Dan,

I can't recall anyone asking you to defend anything, you've done that all of your own accord without any prompting from anyone else. It's a natural reaction which I understand, the trouble is it fails to take on board the more understandable questions that are asked. As with many of your previous posts, you've adopted what I think is referred to as avoidance.

I can understand why, as an employee of The Star, you feel unwilling to adopt a more balanced position when it comes to offering a critique of your employers. The same might apply to most of us. However, the sensible thing to do would be to sit out any questions that might compromise you. In attempting to answer/defend The Star you took on a poison chalice. Far better to avoid the flak as feelings on here towards The Star are, to put it politely, less than charitable.

 

[stringer]

You've misunderstood young Dan,

I can't recall anyone asking you to defend anything, you've done that all of your own accord without any prompting from anyone else. It's a natural reaction, the trouble is it fails to take on board the more understandable questions that are asked. As with many of your previous posts, you've adopted what I think is referred to as avoidance.

I can understand why, as an employee of The Star, you feel unwilling to adopt a more balanced position when it comes to offering a critique of your employers. The same might apply to most of us. However, the sensible thing to do would be to sit out any questions that might compromise you. In attempting to answer/defend The Star you took on a poison chalice. Far better to avoid the flak as feelings on here towards The Star are, to put it politely, less than charitable.

Absolutely. Thanks for the patronising tone too, old itsinyerblood

 

[itsinyerblood]

Absolutely. Thanks for the patronising tone too, old itsinyerblood

Sometimes facing the truth can be difficult to accept. In time you'll realise that yours isn't the only position that matters.

The fact that you replied so quickly to my post suggests that you couldn't have taken enough time to digest and consider my post before replying. As with previous replies you've allowed your gut instincts to better your potential for considered thinking.

I suppose you're right Dan, I am older than yourself, which probably explains why I have far more experience where this is concerned. But don't allow that to get in the way of feeling it necessary to respond in your inimitable fashion.