Not happy one bit

[1danewhitehouse]

can some one post a seasons records where a team thats gone up that hasnt lost or drawn any home games

from any english league

there must be plenty seeing how some of our fans think its what we should be doing

There will always be some drawn or lost games through a season. That doesn’t mean people cannot feel disappointed or frustrated by them when they feel it’s a game they “should” have won. Similarly, show me a team that goes through an entire season without winning a game- does that mean we should never be delighted by a win because we’re bound to win at some point?


We can acknowledge that we’re having a very good season whilst still expressing frustration that our dominance in games isn’t always capitalised on (as was the case at the weekend).

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Keith Edwards describing it as the best performance in years is plain ridiculous!

We played well, but other than hitting the post, I can't remember us going close and their keeper didn't need to make a save.

The thing is that they could have easily won the match as well having hit the post, so it could have easily gone either way.

Their keeper made a couple of saves from Hanson headers and a Lavery shot on the angle following a great long diagonal ball into his path. Sharp missed a glorious chance second half. Their defender made a goal-saving last ditch tackle as Sharp went through in the first half. Duffy missed a good chance in the first half. O’Shea hit the post and Fleck blasted one just over when many of us thought it was going in. Meanwhile they had 2 shots I think and Moore didn’t make a single save.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

if we win 4-0 theres room for improvement
but somedays you can try but not win
tell me , did you get a yes from every girl you asked out
or did some not pan out, despite all your best moves

And by your reckoning we should be delighted when a girls tells you to fuck off because it happens to everyone once in a while?

 

[blade too long]

There will always be some drawn or lost games through a season. That doesn’t mean people cannot feel disappointed or frustrated by them when they feel it’s a game they “should” have won. Similarly, show me a team that goes through an entire season without winning a game- does that mean we should never be delighted by a win because we’re bound to win at some point?


We can acknowledge that we’re having a very good season whilst still expressing frustration that our dominance in games isn’t always capitalised on (as was the case at the weekend).

Again , Ive said several times I was disappointed with the actual result

but not the team , they tried put in the effort ,made some chances ,but results like this occur
Ive watched us over 50 seasons
Have we never only drawn before when we deserved to win ,, hell yes
but once its in the record book we cant do a bloody thing about it

 

[blade too long]

And by your reckoning we should be delighted when a girls tells you to fuck off because it happens to everyone once in a while?

who said anything about being delighted with it
just saying football is like life
some days shit happens

 

[1danewhitehouse]

who said anything about being delighted with it
just saying football is like life
some days shit happens

But the whole point of the OP was to say he wasn't happy with the point which many seemed to be. That's the subject everyone else on the thread is discussing. Everyone knows that teams sometimes draw games of football. Telling us that adds absolutely nothing.

 

[blade too long]

But the whole point of the OP was to say he wasn't happy with the point which many seemed to be. That's the subject everyone else on the thread is discussing. Everyone knows that teams sometimes draw games of football. Telling us that adds absolutely nothing.

whereas dissecting the game looking how it happened changes anything
we lost no ground at all
and the chasing pack have 1 game less to catch us
dwelling on the fact we could be 8 points clear. does that need saying more than once

yes we get it , but it didnt happen
move on

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

I'm not disappointed by a point - we maintained our lead at the top etc, I think 'frustrated' is more accurate - when you play as well as that and don't get the breaks it frustrates you. Hopefully that will be taken out on Bolton this Saturday.

 

[Grecian2000]

But the whole point of the OP was to say he wasn't happy with the point which many seemed to be.

I think the problem with the OP was it's title and the hyperbole in the first couple of lines. Once it settled down it was a reasonable assessment but I can see how many would take objection if they'd stopped after paragraph one.

There was much to like about the performance, there really wasn't a great deal to worry about in the result as neither of our nearest rivals gained anything, and, in the grand scheme of things, I'm much happier with our team and prospects over Scunnies.
Where I will always disagree with the OP is that it most certainly isn't all about the result. If you play well you will win more often you lose. We ARE playing well, that is more important than results taken in isolation.

 

[itsinyerblood]

The reminder from the OP was hardly necessary.

Yes - we're well aware of just how long we've been in this division.

Yes - we know exactly how long it's been since we ere in the Premiership.

And Yes - we've underwhelmed, in ways that are embarrassing and deeply frustrating.

So, with that off your chest, what else do you have to impart that will come as a surprise?

Oh, in case you'd missed events, next season we're likely to have achieved promotion. Will that be cause for celebration Ollie, or will you munch on your pubes and spout something predictably deflating......again. UTB

 

[BushBlade]

I think the problem with the OP was it's title and the hyperbole in the first couple of lines. Once it settled down it was a reasonable assessment but I can see how many would take objection if they'd stopped after paragraph one.

Reading some of the responses, I think a lot didn't even read the first paragraph properly. That's the problem with posting after a game. Most people are a bit pissed and just fly off the handle.

 

[FlamingLip]

None of the above BTL, just that it's disappointing not to win a game you've dominated and that we could have been 2 points better off. Sounded a good team performance. Sorry if it's unrealistic to expect us to win when we dominate and play well, I'll go back to being happy when we draw at home.

its football - you don't always get what you deserve. as a Blade we're over qualified in such matters!

But, on average, routinely playing better than what's put in front of you will sit you well in the league, kind of like it is doing. It was disappointing not to win on Sat, but there will similarly be times (hopefully next season) where we'll steal similar fortune being second best to a superior opposition.

 

[Ricky]

Where I will always disagree with the OP is that it most certainly isn't all about the result. If you play well you will win more often you lose. We ARE playing well, that is more important than results taken in isolation.

I didn't say it's always all about the result. I agree that performances are more important long term. But in a big game like that, all that matters is the result. If you don't get the result you want in a big game you can't be happy just because the performance was decent. At least with us now, because our performance levels are well established. I expected nothing less than the dominance we displayed, I expected nothing more from Scunthorpe and that's what my reaction was based on.

The reminder from the OP was hardly necessary.

Yes - we're well aware of just how long we've been in this division.

Yes - we know exactly how long it's been since we ere in the Premiership.

And Yes - we've underwhelmed, in ways that are embarrassing and deeply frustrating.

So, with that off your chest, what else do you have to impart that will come as a surprise?

Oh, in case you'd missed events, next season we're likely to have achieved promotion. Will that be cause for celebration Ollie, or will you munch on your pubes and spout something predictably deflating......again. UTB

If that's aimed at me then that's a very strange post indeed.

 

[itsinyerblood]

I didn't say it's always all about the result. I agree that performances are more important long term. But in a big game like that, all that matters is the result. If you don't get the result you want in a big game you can't be happy just because the performance was decent. At least with us now, because our performance levels are well established. I expected nothing less than the dominance we displayed, I expected nothing more from Scunthorpe and that's what my reaction was based on.




If that's aimed at me then that's a very strange post indeed.

Ricky, you're absolutely right, incorrectly posted and intended for another thread.

No excuses, so apologies.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Ricky, you're absolutely right, incorrectly posted and intended for another thread.

No excuses, so apologies.

Come on - what about the 20 page ping pong bicker fest?

Very disappointing response.

 

[I should coco]

Ricky, you're absolutely right, incorrectly posted and intended for another thread.

Ello, ello ello, what's been goin' on 'ere then?

 

[1danewhitehouse]

whereas dissecting the game looking how it happened changes anything
we lost no ground at all
and the chasing pack have 1 game less to catch us
dwelling on the fact we could be 8 points clear. does that need saying more than once

yes we get it , but it didnt happen
move on

It won’t change anything that’s quite right. Discussing performances and results after a game will never change the result. Nobody is saying it will. But this forum would be pretty dull if nobody is allowed to talk about such things. I’d better tell Deadbat to give over with his reports as they won’t change the result. And tell Roygbiv that he shouldn’t bother collecting views from the opposing fans as however they saw the game, it won’t change the result.


It’s a football forum. It’s a place for people to discuss their opinions and perspectives on football matches. That’s what the OP did. For what it’s worth, I don’t 100% agree with him but if that’s how he feels about the match he has just witnessed, he is entirely within his rights to post as such. Telling people they can’t express frustration or disappointment at a particular result because all teams fail to win sometimes is silly. As is quoting facts that everyone is aware of.


We all know that no team wins every game.


We all know that no ground was made up by our nearest rivals (except Fleetwood)


We all know that it’s another game gone.


We all know we played some very good stuff first half.


BUT for some, it will feel more like a missed opportunity to put further distance between ourselves and the chasing pack and they are entitled to that view. It’s not an unreasonable view although there was an element of hyperbole in the OP as Grecian2000 mentions. There are positives to take from it (first half performance, coming back from a goal down, nobody making ground up on us) but there are negatives and frustrations too (failure to capitalize on the extra man, lack of composure in the final third, conceding from a very rare attack, missed opportunity to extend our lead). Seeking to allow only one side of that to be discussed as you so often do is very strange behavior and more fitting with our North Korean neighbours.

 

[Grecian2000]

I didn't say it's always all about the result. I agree that performances are more important long term. But in a big game like that, all that matters is the result.

Ok, I've misinterpreted the sentence below to be more all encompassing than that, my mistake:

But for me that's utter bollocks. We were always going to dominate this game. We didn't win. That's what counts.

Like I said previously, I generally agreed on the whole!

 

[blade too long]

BUT for some, it will feel more like a missed opportunity to put further distance between ourselves and the chasing pack .

no , well I never , I hadnt realised that aspect

theres me thinking a draw was the best outcome

 

[1danewhitehouse]

no , well I never , I hadnt realised that aspect

theres me thinking a draw was the best outcome

You're welcome. I don't mind clarifying these things for you.

 

[GaryHamsonsLeftBootLace]

To be fair, Ricky does have a point in one respect and CW stated much the same earlier in the season. We're not as cynical as we could be in front of goal and keepers regularly seem to have a man of the match performance against us. Had we been more cynical that game [Scunny] could have finished 5-2, we'd have beaten Walsall at home and possibly others. But that's why CW brought in Hanson and already he's had an impact. 1 goal and 3 assists in 3 games isn't bad going by anyone's standards. Sharp will get another 10 at least, Hanson should get at least 6 or more. Freeman we know could get another 4 or 5. If the midfield do start pitching in then it's going to be a breeze from here in. Luck is going to go our way one game and someone is going to be on the end of a heavy thrashing. Hopefully this weekend!

That said, a point against Scunny is enough for now, as would a point against Bolton. Three points on Saturday and we're laughing and that's of course what we're all hoping for. There's still a long way to got and we're still in pole position. As Kevin Gage paraphrased on Twitter "when running from the bear, you only need to be faster than the slowest of your companions.".

 

[BushBlade]

To be fair, Ricky does have a point in one respect and CW stated much the same earlier in the season. We're not as cynical as we could be in front of goal and keepers regularly seem to have a man of the match performance against us. Had we been more cynical that game [Scunny] could have finished 5-2, we'd have beaten Walsall at home and possibly others. But that's why CW brought in Hanson and already he's had an impact. 1 goal and 3 assists in 3 games isn't bad going by anyone's standards. Sharp will get another 10 at least, Hanson should get at least 6 or more. Freeman we know could get another 4 or 5. If the midfield do start pitching in then it's going to be a breeze from here in. Luck is going to go our way one game and someone is going to be on the end of a heavy thrashing. Hopefully this weekend!

That said, a point against Scunny is enough for now, as would a point against Bolton. Three points on Saturday and we're laughing and that's of course what we're all hoping for. There's still a long way to got and we're still in pole position. As Kevin Gage paraphrased on Twitter "when running from the bear, you only need to be faster than the slowest of your companions.".

Clinical.

 

[South Bucks]

Unfortunately in the last 3 games its been Billy scores or no one scores.

The guilty elephant standing quietly in the corner of the room recently IMO is our midfield not chipping in with enough goals.

Fleck + Coutts + Duffy = not even a shot on target in the last 3 games = not good enough for a midfield unit = need to turn some of that possession into efforts on target.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

So, we've scored more goals than anybody else, we've also got the leagues top scorer, but we've got no quality in the box?

Just tell me, how does that one work?

I'll tell you how it works - we should be doing what Charlton did - getting over 100 points.

We WILL finish top, but we should be out of sight by now.

It's all about getting better to some - not accepting what we have as others do - that isn't a crime.

Strive to be better, and there are things we can do to be better.

UTB