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Frustrating not to win but given the lack of pace and mobility of the front two and on the wide positions it's hardly surprising we only score one chance out of twenty


I thought we played some fantastic football today , I thoroughly enjoyed watching it but there is no way that either of those front players are championship standard

The service from out wide was abysmal also

But we should have been 4-0 before they even got sight of our goal
 
Frustrating not to win but given the lack of pace and mobility of the front two and on the wide positions it's hardly surprising we only score one chance out of twenty


I thought we played some fantastic football today , I thoroughly enjoyed watching it but there is no way that either of those front players are championship standard

The service from out wide was abysmal also

But we should have been 4-0 before they even got sight of our goal

Can you please have a word with blade_too_long - he's more than happy.

UTB
 
So you were completely satisfied with the performance today? There was no room for improvement at all?
if we win 4-0 theres room for improvement
but somedays you can try but not win
tell me , did you get a yes from every girl you asked out
or did some not pan out, despite all your best moves
 
I didn't think we quite did enough in the second half when they went down to ten men but I put that down to the effort and great first half perfromance.

Still, if they are second place in the league, what do we have to worry about?
 
Can you please have a word with blade_too_long - he's more than happy.

UTB
I thought the first half was the most one-sided I've ever seen but most of the chances fell to Duffy who lacked composure

The front two don't really offer enough to the midfield for me that's why the wing backs or midfielders always have to turn back and play around a packed defence
 
we are top playing very well and have a great squad and some nice easier games coming up , enough to take us up
whats not to like

As posted before, if you are happy, then that's ok.

I'm not with certain aspects of our play. Our problems are not isolated to this game - it is re-occurring.

If you can't or won't see it - again, that's fine - you, like United, have this re-occuring problem.

All the best.

UTB
 
It's hard for me to be critical of the side after a performance like that, in fact I can't be critical of one single player for endeavour or heart, only for application appt times. And as for application, as frustrating as it is to see chances missed and crosses not clearing defenders, it's not something that you can turn on or off no matter how hard a player tries, sometimes you just need the rub of the green like Scunny got with their goal.

My only concerns today would be around the substitutions. I think Lavery should have come on much earlier maybe, soon after their player got sent off, and played alongside Hanson and Sharp. And I've not the faintest idea why we brought Done on for the last 2 minutes, and I suspect Done hasn't either.

But that's me nit-picking, today they made me proud. UTB.
 
you have to be pragmatic about it

yes we could have been 8 points clear
conversely we could have ended the day just 2 points clear

we all expect to win every game
but history tells us nah dont go like that for any promoted team

wigan won it last year a year agos results
3 February Wigan Athletic 0 - 0 Oldham
20 February Walsall 1 - 2 Wigan Athletic
27 February Wigan Athletic 3 - 0 Bury
1 March Millwall 0 - 0 Wigan Athletic
5 March Wigan Athletic 1 - 1 Peterborough United
12 March Colchester United 3 - 3 Wigan Athletic
4 DRAWS HOW AMAZING
8 POINTS DROPPED ?
 
The reaction on the radio seems to be that we have to be happy because we played well (one of the best performances in years apparently!) and haven't lost any ground.

But for me that's utter bollocks. We were always going to dominate this game. We didn't win. That's what counts. We've wasted a great opportunity to create a big gap between both Scunny and Bolton (who were never likely to win today). And now more pressure is on the Bolton game than there should be.

I think some people will overestimate Scunthorpe and get swept up in the once in a blue moon decent atmosphere and claim it was a great performance. It wasn't, it was good but nothing special by our standards this season.
Today just showed what we should already know, we're a much better team than Scunthorpe.

The referee was an utter, utter cunt. He needs to learn how to use his watch. He failed to add on the right amount of time in either half, and he was himself responsible for a lot of the petty stoppages. He was infuriating and played a massive part in getting Scunthorpe a point.

Scunny scored with the very first chance they had but they're always snidey little bastards so that's only to be expected really. They're a very basic team with little to offer other than kicking the opposition. They're lucky they've got Murray Wallace at the back.

Ultimately though we've once again struggled against 10 men. I'm sick of it. We generally struggle far more than we should do at home and for this reason we'll make a meal of promotion when it should be a formality.

I don't know what took Wilder so long to make a change. Worst of all taking 83 minutes to bring on somebody different out wide. We've got great subs to bring on but didn't make good use of them. He got it spot on last week but he didn't today. Should have done all he could to make sure we weren't chasing a goal in the last 5/10 minutes, but once again that was the position we found ourselves in at home.

Can't really complain too much about the performance but above anything today was yet another infuriating and typical missed opportunity due mainly to a wanker of a referee and extremely lucky opponents.

Agreed, I was very pissed off at the final whistle. It felt like two points dropped. We should have got a goal in the first half when we were on top but didn't.

When they had a man sent off, I had to count how many players they had on the field because it felt like they still had 11 on the pitch. We give teams far too much respect when they go down to 10 men.
 
I disagree with Ricky. We'll finish above Scunthorpe because we are better than them. We made lots of chances when we had our original eleven on the pitch and I see no point in taking players off when they are doing a good job. We absolutely battered them in the first half and should have been 2-0 or 3-0 ahead at half time.

Let's not forget also that Scunthorpe are the second best team in this division. They were lucky to be still in the game at half time but they played bravely and well in the second, especially when down to ten men so they played a major part in us not winning.

It was a belting game and we are still top by 5 points. We have the best squad in the division by miles. Everything is OK, I promise!
Agree with that Scunthorpe made more of a game of it in 2nd half ,going down to 10 men galvanised them but on that 90 mins we would have won 9 times out of ten.
Keith Edwards was spot on saying!! that was the best football we have played in many years,just the goals that were missing ,this team is improving all the time and there is more to come ,in my opinion.
Understand your frustration Ricky ,I am as well,but I'm still drooling at the style Wilder has created in double quick time.
Scunthorpe do deserve e. Credit for getting to half time all square how they did it they probably don't know.
The style we have now will grace the championship ,we must make it this season.
Jones the ref was disappointin stopped the game for frivolous things and this played into Scunthorpe hands,seemed to like the idea he was top dog.
John Moss refereed the Bradford game far better ( kept the game moving ).
 



Best performance I have seen in years. The players deserve huge credit to make the 2nd in the league look that poor. Would rather watch an entertaining draw like today than the dull shit them across the city keep churning out
 
I didn't think we quite did enough in the second half when they went down to ten men but I put that down to the effort and great first half perfromance.

Still, if they are second place in the league, what do we have to worry about?

I thought we were a bit complacent in the 2nd half. I got the feeling after the sending off we thought we would win
 
I thought the first half was the most one-sided I've ever seen but most of the chances fell to Duffy who lacked composure

The front two don't really offer enough to the midfield for me that's why the wing backs or midfielders always have to turn back and play around a packed defence

I agree with a lot of that. That's why I like Lavery on the pitch. He's got a bit of pace and the ability to make things happen. He's the only striker we can say that about. It takes some pressure off the midfield having someone like him. For me he should start ahead of Hanson most weeks.
 
I agree with a lot of that. That's why I like Lavery on the pitch. He's got a bit of pace and the ability to make things happen. He's the only striker we can say that about. It takes some pressure off the midfield having someone like him. For me he should start ahead of Hanson most weeks.
I thought Lavery should have been on a lot earlier...Sharp and Hanson did ok and got us the equaliser, but we needed someone with more threat to get behind or turn their defenders and ask a few more questions.
 
I agree with a lot of that. That's why I like Lavery on the pitch. He's got a bit of pace and the ability to make things happen. He's the only striker we can say that about. It takes some pressure off the midfield having someone like him. For me he should start ahead of Hanson most weeks.
But on the other hand ,we Lost a lot of possession and looked far more likely to conceed when Hanson went off as they were just picking up the ball easily off our forwards and trying to turn our defence with 90 yard hoofs ,which almost worked

So it's all swings and roundabouts really
 
The OP is a very constructive criticism but will get ripped to pieces by the same crowd as always. Looking at the stats it's 2 points dropped, no one is saying that we have to win every game at home, just that in games where we play better and have a numerical advantage for large parts we should be coming away with all 3 points. To suggest just because we're top and Bolton only drew that we didn't drop points is nonsense.

2 points dropped (in my opinion) is where you let a lead slip. To say otherwise is to assume that you should have beaten the other team simply because you played better than them, that isn't how football always works and is also a tad arrogant.
We didn't take the lead today therfore we have salvaged a point, as hard as that may be to swallow.
 
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so should scunthorpe in their eyes and bolton

but
no team has ever ever won every game
unless you know of someone who has

seen lots of teams batter other teams draw and lose games
its how football is

10 man millwall beat prem champs leicester today in the cup
mind you leicester couldnt score in a brothel just now

So because Milwall beat Leicester we should be happy with a point? Or is it still because Bolton drew?

Where have I said we should win every game? Read the whole post that people make instead of twisting the bits that suit your agenda.
 
The OP is a very constructive criticism but will get ripped to pieces by the same crowd as always. Looking at the stats it's 2 points dropped, no one is saying that we have to win every game at home, just that in games where we play better and have a numerical advantage for large parts we should be coming away with all 3 points. To suggest just because we're top and Bolton only drew that we didn't drop points is nonsense.

Looking at the stats it isn't 2 points dropped because our closest rivals didn't gain 2 points on us. Sometimes, statistically you play shit and win, sometimes quite the opposite, and sometimes you even end up drawing :tumbleweed:

Fucking hell, I've never seen such an over reaction to a home draw. Nothing's guaranteed, it's a game, win some lose some, the manager is fucking ace and if he saw weaknesses I trust him to try and put things right.

Some of you sound as though it's fucking blob week, get a fucking grip, we've got another big game coming up and it would be terrible if you all wet yourselves should Bolton score first :rolleyes:
 
Who was the linesman with the Yellow flag - shockingly poor, the 'not offside' near the end was amazing terrible, the forward must have been 3 yards offside and they hit the post!

I was bang in line and thought he could have been level, otherwise only marginally off. Be good to see it back conclusively.
 
Looking at the stats it isn't 2 points dropped because our closest rivals didn't gain 2 points on us. Sometimes, statistically you play shit and win, sometimes quite the opposite, and sometimes you even end up drawing :tumbleweed:

Fucking hell, I've never seen such an over reaction to a home draw. Nothing's guaranteed, it's a game, win some lose some, the manager is fucking ace and if he saw weaknesses I trust him to try and put things right.

Some of you sound as though it's fucking blob week, get a fucking grip, we've got another big game coming up and it would be terrible if you all wet yourselves should Bolton score first :rolleyes:

The stats being 19 shots at goal, them having a player sent off 40 mins before the end of the game and us dominating by all accounts, I wasn't there but it sounds like we really ought to have taken 3 points and I'm disappointed that we didn't. Before these 2 games I would have been more than happy with a point from Scunthorpe and will be happy if we do the same again next week. But a very sensible OP is being shot down in flames by the same old arguments of "stop moaning we're top" and "Bolton didn't win so it doesn't matter". Must be hard to post on a forum for those people who start referencing female menstruation at anyone who doesn't agree with their point of view.

Where is the over reaction you talk about? Disappointment at drawing at home to 2nd place is far from throwing toys out of the pram, I would actually say it's a good thing that we are disappointed with the result rather than thankful for the point as you suggest we should be, it's a measure of our prior success this season.

I also thank you for the explanation of the "win, lose and draw" options in football, it clears up any potential questions I may have.
 
"I wasn't there". OK, me neither so no point arguing with a dead psychic who can't relax and enjoy the fact that we're top of the league, in better form than our closest rivals and not dropping points to them despite how you choose to use the "stats".

I'm disappointed we didn't win, I always am but I don't resort to whining and shitting myself in public.
 



I think the big question after reading all this....... Is Ricky this season's Barney?
 

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