Not Difficult

[Santos]

Keep Kenny, Naysmith, Monty, Quinn, Sharp and Henderson. Other Championship clubs (Naysmith apart perhaps) are all after these because they're good players at this level. We're already half way there with that spine of the team. Remove all of them and we're starting all over again. Morgan has already signed up, get the rest of them ready for next season. If we sell all the above players we're only going to be getting vastly inferiror and inexperienced players to replace them. We can slag Blackwell off all we like but most managers would struggle losing those six.

 

[Houso]

I'd let Quinn go (because he's stagnated at the Lane) and Henderson (because he's inconsistent and on huge wages). I'd keep the others.

Oh, and I'd lose the manager. Yes, I'd lose the manager.

 

[raul]

If priority No 1 is cutting the wage bill I'd expect at least half to be out the door this summer and to be honest looking at the list there's not many on an individual basis I'd be too bothered about if they did. Time for a bit of a clearout and time to build a squad to win promotion in three or four years time. take some of the expectation away, some of the pressure off and allow us to grow again.

 

[AlienWoodward]

If priority No 1 is cutting the wage bill I'd expect at least half to be out the door this summer and to be honest looking at the list there's not many on an individual basis I'd be too bothered about if they did. Time for a bit of a clearout and time to build a squad to win promotion in three or four years time. take some of the expectation away, some of the pressure off and allow us to grow again.

I lost interest when I got to Kenny ;-)

 

[Big Mart]

Keep Kenny, Naysmith, Monty, Quinn, Sharp and Henderson. Other Championship clubs (Naysmith apart perhaps) are all after these because they're good players at this level. We're already half way there with that spine of the team. Remove all of them and we're starting all over again. Morgan has already signed up, get the rest of them ready for next season. If we sell all the above players we're only going to be getting vastly inferiror and inexperienced players to replace them. We can slag Blackwell off all we like but most managers would struggle losing those six.

'kin hell Kozzy, think you're bollocks went that day you shat it at Wolves, and you've never got 'em back looking at some of the drivel you've been posting lately. With the exception of Sharp, and the Kenny of about 5 years ago, the players you mentioned are nowt but tried and tested failures at this level. Players who are slow, are lacking in footballing brains and all in all, only suited to a certain style of football. It's not good to watch, it's easily sussed, and that's why ultimately if we keep building teams around the players you're in love with then we'll be having the same old conversation this time next season.............as I'm sure we did this time last year

If other division two teams really are after them then let them go, it'll only serve to give us an advantage should we be revolutionary and actually replace them with proper footballers. Time for a major clearout, no prisoners and a complete rebuild. Other teams have done it, why oh why don't we? Oh aye, almost forgot, we have a chairman more interested in off field activities than events on the pitch but there ya go, that's another topic that's also been done to death :hello::header::hello:

:gallop:

 

[beightonblade]

Not difficult ..................... sum of the management at BDTBL can't tie there shoelaces

 

[Micalijo]

Keep Kenny, Naysmith, Monty, Quinn, Sharp and Henderson. Other Championship clubs (Naysmith apart perhaps) are all after these because they're good players at this level. We're already half way there with that spine of the team. Remove all of them and we're starting all over again. Morgan has already signed up, get the rest of them ready for next season. If we sell all the above players we're only going to be getting vastly inferiror and inexperienced players to replace them. We can slag Blackwell off all we like but most managers would struggle losing those six.

We can and we will slag Blackwell off all we like. Kevin Blackwell is a joke manager, an incompetent, pre-historic manager who removes any sense of enjoyment that a fan (me!) has about their club with his lies and pathetic excuses.

I think alot of managers would be delighted to get rid of Quinn and Monty and sign some proper athletic, talented footballers. Not Blackwell though.

 

[AlienWoodward]

'kin hell Kozzy, think you're bollocks went that day you shat it at Wolves, and you've never got 'em back looking at some of the drivel you've been posting lately. With the exception of Sharp, and the Kenny of about 5 years ago, the players you mentioned are nowt but tried and tested failures at this level. Players who are slow, are lacking in footballing brains and all in all, only suited to a certain style of football. It's not good to watch, it's easily sussed, and that's why ultimately if we keep building teams around the players you're in love with then we'll be having the same old conversation this time next season.............as I'm sure we did this time last year

If other division two teams really are after them then let them go, it'll only serve to give us an advantage should we be revolutionary and actually replace them with proper footballers. Time for a major clearout, no prisoners and a complete rebuild. Other teams have done it, why oh why don't we? Oh aye, almost forgot, we have a chairman more interested in off field activities than events on the pitch but there ya go, that's another topic that's also been done to death :hello::header::hello:

:gallop:

I seem to remember the tried and trusted failures Monty,Kenny and Quinn won promotion out of this division.
And to accuse Santos of talking drivel,you're the "kin king of it

 

[Micalijo]

I seem to remember the tried and trusted failures Monty,Kenny and Quinn won promotion out of this division.
And to accuse Santos of talking drivel,you're the "kin king of it

Don't think Quinn played at all, and we had a proper manager in charge.

You think Monty and Quinn are capable of forming a midfield partnership that will gather 70 odd points?

 

[AlienWoodward]

Don't think Quinn played at all, and we had a proper manager in charge.

You think Monty and Quinn are capable of forming a midfield partnership that will gather 70 odd points?

I think Monty is the best in this division at what he does. I think a confident quin is an asset to the team. They were both part of a depleted team that managed 65 points last season. So barring injuries like last season the answer to your question is yes.

 

[Santos]

'kin hell Kozzy, think you're bollocks went that day you shat it at Wolves, and you've never got 'em back looking at some of the drivel you've been posting lately. With the exception of Sharp, and the Kenny of about 5 years ago, the players you mentioned are nowt but tried and tested failures at this level. Players who are slow, are lacking in footballing brains and all in all, only suited to a certain style of football. It's not good to watch, it's easily sussed, and that's why ultimately if we keep building teams around the players you're in love with then we'll be having the same old conversation this time next season.............as I'm sure we did this time last year

If other division two teams really are after them then let them go, it'll only serve to give us an advantage should we be revolutionary and actually replace them with proper footballers. Time for a major clearout, no prisoners and a complete rebuild. Other teams have done it, why oh why don't we? Oh aye, almost forgot, we have a chairman more interested in off field activities than events on the pitch but there ya go, that's another topic that's also been done to death :hello::header::hello:

:gallop:

Keep your hair on

I don't love or hate those players, I'm just being realistic, with the current set up if we were to sign players to replace the likes of those mentioned we'll do awful next season, Blackwell isn't the man in my view to get the best out of players who haven't yet played in the Championship. Our best hope for next season is to keep the core of the side which got us to the PO Final last season.

Ideally i'd like Blackwell Monty et al to do one and we'll bring in Jose and Xavi but it ain't happening.

 

[AlienWoodward]

Keep your hair on

I don't love or hate those players, I'm just being realistic, with the current set up if we were to sign players to replace the likes of those mentioned we'll do awful next season, Blackwell isn't the man in my view to get the best out of players who haven't yet played in the Championship. Our best hope for next season is to keep the core of the side which got us to the PO Final last season.

Ideally i'd like Blackwell Monty et al to do one and we'll bring in Jose and Xavi but it ain't happening.

I seem to remember you telling me Blackwell was the man for the job once upon a time

 

[Worksop II]

Keep your hair on

we'll bring in Jose and Xavi but it ain't happening.

No, No ......... Jose and Millito

Got money on the Inter Argies tonking the Krauts tonite

 

[Bergen Blade]

If priority No 1 is cutting the wage bill I'd expect at least half to be out the door this summer and to be honest looking at the list there's not many on an individual basis I'd be too bothered about if they did. Time for a bit of a clearout and time to build a squad to win promotion in three or four years time. take some of the expectation away, some of the pressure off and allow us to grow again.

This is the club's dilemma. Should we hang on to a few ageing, unexciting and expensive players, leaving peanuts for new signings, and again hoping we somehow will be 'there or thereabouts'? Or should we start to rebuild a squad that will be prepared, confident and strong enough to do well in the Premiership in 3-4 years?

If the club doesn't necessarily go out and state that this will be a season of rebuilding, I hope they at least have a long term plan now, rather than the pathetic series of short term fixes we saw last season. Last season was poor for me, and many wins even felt like they were in vain, as I always felt we weren't strong enough to go up, let alone have anything at all to offer in the Premiership.

 

[Big Mart]

I think Monty is the best in this division at what he does.

And that my friend confirms that it's a complete waste of time trying to talk about football with you. All teams need a workhorse, we've got a clothes horse, an aimless runner who stifles and ruins the game for both sides and one who offers nothing. If he's the best in your eyes then ffs get to Specsavers :heart::kissass::heart:

Keep your hair on

Kozzy, you know as well as I do that I have no hair.......................I'm still rocks and gorgeous though

As to doing awful next season, we did awful this season!!! We were boring, one dimensional and shit for most of the games. If we're looking to match that again then yes, keep the footballing retards but personally I'd hope and expect we'd be looking for a bit of progression.

:gallop:

 

[sheffielder]

Keep Kenny, Naysmith, Monty, Quinn, Sharp and Henderson. Other Championship clubs (Naysmith apart perhaps) are all after these because they're good players at this level. We're already half way there with that spine of the team. Remove all of them and we're starting all over again. Morgan has already signed up, get the rest of them ready for next season. If we sell all the above players we're only going to be getting vastly inferiror and inexperienced players to replace them. We can slag Blackwell off all we like but most managers would struggle losing those six.

Not difficult? I stopped reading your thread when you said keep Henderson. Gotta be fucking joking

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

As to doing awful next season, we did awful this season!!! We were boring, one dimensional and shit for most of the games. If we're looking to match that again then yes, keep the footballing retards but personally I'd hope and expect we'd be looking for a bit of progression.

:gallop:

I wasn't aware that you'd actually been to any matches last season, BM....

 

[Big Mart]

Shows what you know then..........................sweet FA

:gallop:

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Shows what you know then..........................sweet FA

:gallop:

Eye theng you ;P

 

[Santos]

Not difficult? I stopped reading your thread when you said keep Henderson. Gotta be fucking joking

You see, I don't think I fully explained myself here.

I don't think any of the above players are amazing at this level, however I'm looking at us getting out of this division not holding out unrealistic ambitions that we're going to get Sean O'Drisscoll as manager and never see the ball go higher than two metres all season.

With this in mind, and as Blackwell a fixture as manager I'm looking at players who can play within a Blackwell system and Henderson, plus the others (Sharp perhaps excluded going on history) are ideal for it (no matter how much some of us detest it).

To take Henderson inparticular, Henderson showed enough for me to see he could do well next season if he can cut out his silly red cards and try and play 40+ games for us, although i do concede he had a poor end to the season. He did afterall score just as many as Cresswell, Hulse, Fryatt, Simpson and Bogdanovic.

I'd be interested to hear your views if you've managed to read all of this.

 

[Big Mart]

You see, I don't think I fully explained myself here.

I think you already did. You said that you want us to keep a bunch of make weights who really aren't good enough, and you said that you think that they should be the backbone of the side. Wrong. They aren't good enough, we should be looking for players a lot better. :loopy::bomb::loopy:

If you disagree then fair enough, get used to more of the same next season :dj::foxy::dj:

:gallop:

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Rearrange into well-known phrase or saying

ship rudderless

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Shows what you know then..........................sweet FA

:gallop:

There's kite flying going on at Harewood this weekend....

 

[sheffielder]

You see, I don't think I fully explained myself here.

I don't think any of the above players are amazing at this level, however I'm looking at us getting out of this division not holding out unrealistic ambitions that we're going to get Sean O'Drisscoll as manager and never see the ball go higher than two metres all season.

With this in mind, and as Blackwell a fixture as manager I'm looking at players who can play within a Blackwell system and Henderson, plus the others (Sharp perhaps excluded going on history) are ideal for it (no matter how much some of us detest it).

To take Henderson inparticular, Henderson showed enough for me to see he could do well next season if he can cut out his silly red cards and try and play 40+ games for us, although i do concede he had a poor end to the season. He did afterall score just as many as Cresswell, Hulse, Fryatt, Simpson and Bogdanovic.

I'd be interested to hear your views if you've managed to read all of this.

Many many questions, where shall I start.

1. So shall we cross fingers that Henderson can cut out the crap?
2. Henderson will be in the team because it suits Blackwell's style. Route one.
3. The last 2 seasons we have had Henderson we have played better when he hasn't played.
4. If we get some decent money for him, then money can be sent in areas of the team which have a higher priority, or should we have 6 strikers?

For however bad Blackwell has been, someone should do the purchasing because he buys and signs crap, Ward discounted.. however he probably won't be here much longer and add to that the 2nd or 3rd top scorer in the division Billy Sharp.

If it was me then I would make a decision on the team on how to get the best out of Sharp. That obviously means getting rid of Henderson, and putting someone around sharp who has better movement in pace, in turn making more space for Sharp.

Obviously that won't happen because the tactical genius that is Blackwell a, unfortunately will be here next season and b, too fucking stubborn by half to admit mistake and make the changes to this team's style to take us forward.

Paddy, Morgan, Naysmith, Ward, Monty, Williamson, Quinn, Cresswell, Evans, Sharp

Not a long ball merchant in them (discounting the 1st three).

What we need is to do what McCabe and Blackwell promised us when we signed Ward... Younger talented cheaper talent from the lower division.

Do you know we have signed only 1 played froma lower division since? Andy Taylor

Yes I know this was about Henderson... but look what a negative impact he has on us as a team.

 

[bladesman1889]

We can play well with Henderson in the team quite easily if we play passing football. Just remember the two Bristol C games for instance.

 

[sheffielder]

We can play well with Henderson in the team quite easily if we play passing football. Just remember the two Bristol C games for instance.

'We Can'

Not very often though is it, which I don't blame Henderson for.

What I do blame him for is the cards and persistant fouling. anyone who thinks he is going to change at his age.

Blackwell needs to move Henderson on just to prove that he himself can change

 

[Santos]

Many many questions, where shall I start.

1. So shall we cross fingers that Henderson can cut out the crap? Well, insofar as we cross our fingers that Evans scores 30 goal or that Wednesday slip down another division. Specifically about Henderson, he has shown more than enough to suggest he is an important part to our team, infact I'll go even further and say that despite his injuries, suspensions that the majority of our wins have come with him in the team. I'm sure that whether or not he's at SUFC, QPR or anyone else he more than anyone doesn't want to miss games due to suspension or injury.
2. Henderson will be in the team because it suits Blackwell's style. Route one. I completely agree, and baring in mind Blackwell isn't going anywhere this summer it seems prudent to try and keep him, if we lose him we'll sign a player on much lesser wages (a player of similiar ilk to Leon Clarke I guess) who is probably going to be very poor.
3. The last 2 seasons we have had Henderson we have played better when he hasn't played. Disagree, 08/09 our results picked up massively when Henderson was in the team for the second half of the season, i'm sure it was due to the management but when James Beattie played it seemed like 'give the ball to James', when Henderson came in everyone seemed to take a bit more responsibility and as a result we were a more effective team.
4. If we get some decent money for him, then money can be sent in areas of the team which have a higher priority, or should we have 6 strikers? Six strikers? I count Henderson, Evans and Cresswell. Sharp seems desperate to leave and Blackwell hasn't played Ward upfront all season, Camara has left and I can't think of anyone else. I partly answered this in point 2. Anyway, if he's as shit as everyone makes out we'll be lucky to get 200K for him,

For however bad Blackwell has been, someone should do the purchasing because he buys and signs crap, Ward discounted.. however he probably won't be here much longer and add to that the 2nd or 3rd top scorer in the division Billy Sharp.

If it was me then I would make a decision on the team on how to get the best out of Sharp. That obviously means getting rid of Henderson, and putting someone around sharp who has better movement in pace, in turn making more space for Sharp.

Obviously that won't happen because the tactical genius that is Blackwell a, unfortunately will be here next season and b, too fucking stubborn by half to admit mistake and make the changes to this team's style to take us forward.

Paddy, Morgan, Naysmith, Ward, Monty, Williamson, Quinn, Cresswell, Evans, Sharp

Not a long ball merchant in them (discounting the 1st three).

What we need is to do what McCabe and Blackwell promised us when we signed Ward... Younger talented cheaper talent from the lower division.

Do you know we have signed only 1 played froma lower division since? Andy Taylor

Yes I know this was about Henderson... but look what a negative impact he has on us as a team. I really wish it was as easy as that.

I have to write something here as the message is too short!

 

[Worksop II]

No, No ......... Jose and Milito

Got money on the Inter Argies tonking the Krauts tonite

Ahem !!

Loverly Jubberly, well done Jose and Milito

 

[AlienWoodward]

And that my friend confirms that it's a complete waste of time trying to talk about football with you. All teams need a workhorse, we've got a clothes horse, an aimless runner who stifles and ruins the game for both sides and one who offers nothing. If he's the best in your eyes then ffs get to Specsavers :heart::kissass::heart:



Kozzy, you know as well as I do that I have no hair.......................I'm still rocks and gorgeous though

As to doing awful next season, we did awful this season!!! We were boring, one dimensional and shit for most of the games. If we're looking to match that again then yes, keep the footballing retards but personally I'd hope and expect we'd be looking for a bit of progression.

:gallop:

Ha ha ha you should write comedy sketches because "The clothes horse" wasn't just the best in my eyes but also his team mates and the majority of the fans.
But as I have stated previously you seem to be of the belief that you know better than the professionals and the rest of the fans.
http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/sport/Monty-voted-Blades-player-of.6263072.jp
Keep up :header::loopy:

 

[grafikhaus]

Some good stuff (and some drivel) on this thread. Yes, we're all experts and could do Blackie's job. Just like Boothroyd and Coleman were going to be 'the next big thing' in management. Ditto Holloway prior to Leicester.

Just some thoughts from Patrick Collins in today's MoS:
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Gordon Strachan is burdened by chips on both shoulders. But that does not mean that he is always wrong.

Last week, we learned that 51 League managers lost their job last season, including 36 dismissed.

The Middlesbrough manager was outraged.

‘It’s getting like Italy, where there’s a demand for instant success,’ he said. ‘And it’s all different with the media, with all these phone-ins and message boards. You hear it all the time, “Vote now if you think the manager should be out of a job”.

‘And you watch the sports news on television and it’s just, “Let’s go and speak to somebody standing outside a football club superstore”.’

Spot on. Intelligent criticism has been replaced by bear baiting. And it was high time that somebody said so.