Nigel Adkins team........"Where Are They Now?"

[I should coco]

Still think you're taking the piss. I mean, after a decade of decline and squader, and now he wants to fuck Sheffield United, the club me and you support, you still don't think he is damned in his own existence?



What he could have done is used some better judgement and stopped trying to plug financial holes with ever more fucked up managerial appointments, backroom staff who were clearly there to contribute nothing and selling our best players. But y'know, poo bloke is 'out of pocket' isn't he? Like our continued slump (see OP) wasn't enough, poor, sorrowful Kevin McCabe just kept that cash flowing in ... whilst he busted the club up into more myriad unsaleable layers and in no way siree was that designed as a safety net just in case ... well ... just in case the chickens came home one day to roost. I don't give a fat fuck about him being out of pocket. As far as football is concerned SUFCs supporters across the globe have been out of pocket. And its the football that matters. We've all shown loyaty to the badge. It's about time he did the same and did the honourable thing and stopped being a complete dick to the supporters, club, players and everything else which we are led to believe means so much to him



No idea what the hell you are on about here. I have never declared McCabe is in any way crooked, bent or on the make from SUFC. I have however for many years taken on all and sundry that he is an incompetent, interfering makeweight who needed to sell up and fuck off. No ideas, just honest opinion. And fuck me, it seems I am right.You however, seem to see some kind of rationale behind him building flats behind the kop. Our opinions differ. Maybe you are on his payroll. Maybe not.

pommpey

Credit for stepping forward in the shitty position we were in circa 2000 - NONE

Credit for improving much of the Lane with real bricks and mortar, rather than tarpaulins - NONE

Credit for bringing the prince in - NONE

Credit for (jointly) bringing CW in - NONE

 

[BushBlade]

We'd been top in late Feb but were falling away badly. Wilson had a poor record in the playoffs which together with the equally pessimistic view of our fanbase, probably meant failure again.

He thought Morgan could do the 'motivation thing' for just half a dozen games.
He gambled, he failed, as per United from the 1970s onward.

There are gambles and gambles though. Our gambles tended to be Sad Ken in the 2.30 at Uttoxeter at 33/1.
Sacking Wilson and replacing him with someone who’d been a successful manager before is a calculated gamble, sacking him and replacing him with a novice is pissing your money away on scratch cards.

 

[I should coco]

There are gambles and gambles though. Our gambles tended to be Sad Ken in the 2.30 at Uttoxeter at 33/1.
Sacking Wilson and replacing him with someone who’d been a successful manager before is a calculated gamble, sacking him and replacing him with a novice is pissing your money away on scratch cards.

I completely agree. I guess if nobody else was available and with Morgan's knowledge of the squad, he felt it worth a punt.

As you say though, asking an old pit pony to run in the National, probably isn't going to pay off.

 

[pommpey]

Credit for stepping forward in the shitty position we were in circa 2000 - NONE

And? What relevance does this have to him wanting to fuck the whole BDTBL situation up? More's the question, since 2000, what did we achieve with him running things?

Credit for improving much of the Lane with real bricks and mortar, rather than tarpaulins - NONE

D'you know? Which would you prefer ... a nice stadium, or a team in the top flight? For some years under him, both were mutually exclusive. You can see why now, can't you? He owns vast swathes of Sheffield United in many layers. Every single one of them built to make it very much more difficult to remove him without removing much of Sheffield United. And you think he needs credit for this. I think you need to have a think about this.

Credit for bringing the prince in - NONE

What a fallacious load of bollocks, and you know it. He brought the prince in because he thought he was minted, and would buy the club off him lock stock and barrel. All of it. All the layers. This bit, that bit, oh, and here's another bit. Whilst the club struggled in Div One still. Another manager. La-di-da. Here you go HRH, there's this bit too.

Trouble is, he fucked up. Twice. Wilder got the club up the leagues (despite McCabe) and HRH wasn't as minted, or daft as he thought.

So, 'credit'? Yeah. If it meant him getting reamed out a few extra sizes in court and sent packing, yep. Face it, McCabe never banked on that, did he. Fucking 'credit'. lol

Credit for (jointly) bringing CW in - NONE

Bullshit. Wilder was brought in after eight different, expensive sackings and resignations. So on balance, you're in minus figures there Coco. Are you crediting him for Robson? What about Wier? Adkins? Blackwell? Want me to continue?

Look, I know you're now sat having read all that and are pretty cross. If, during your journey trying to convince me and countless other Blades who now understand what a giant bastard McCabe was (and some who are mysteriously silent these days about him, despite having necked enough of his johnson to put a guard rail round the Isle of Wight) you've run out of other feeble reasons and excuses, feel free to open the Desso debate again. It's usually the last resort, and usually easily refuted.

pommpey

 

[Bladesway]

We'd been top in late Feb but were falling away badly. Wilson had a poor record in the playoffs which together with the equally pessimistic view of our fanbase, probably meant failure again.

He thought Morgan could do the 'motivation thing' for just half a dozen games.
He gambled, he failed, as per United from the 1970s onward.

Sacking Wilson may not have been the mistake, replacing him with a well meaning man with no experience was an utter clusterfuck of an idea. It was before he did it. You replace a manager with someone else who is a manager, not a bloke managing his first game. He may as well have picked me!

 

[I should coco]

Bullshit. Wilder was brought in after eight different, expensive sackings and resignations. So on balance, you're in minus figures there Coco. Are you crediting him for Robson? What about Wier? Adkins? Blackwell? Want me to continue?

You are right there were many failures and you have previously pointed them out at length.
Repeatedly,

So you flay him for the wrong decisions, but put the right ones down to luck?

Why does the word 'agenda' always come to mind?

Have a day off, relax and enjoy the sun.

BTW, me, cross? Not a bit of it old bean,

 

[pommpey]

You are right there were many failures and you have previously pointed them out at length.
Repeatedly,

Yeah. And people ... such as you ... are all 'la-la-la ... not listening' and refuse to take any of them ... as you correctly say ... 'many' failures into account. According to you, all of this is eclipsed by the fact that McCabe has built bits onto BDTBL, saw his opportunity to be the boss, and somehow had a 50% stake in bringing in Chris Wilder. For that, the past decade of abject footballing famine is nothing but a mirage, is it? I won't call you deluded. Much.

So you flay him for the wrong decisions, but put the right ones down to luck?

What 'right' ones do we have here? I mean, eventually, unless he'd ran out of cash with which to pay former managers to fuck off and keep schtum, he was bound to get a decent manager, wasn't he? It's the law of averages. Trouble was, to pay all of that off, he had to flog players. Rather than invest and climb, it was sell and stagnate. And boy, did he do that in hearts, clubs, diamonds and spades. He even spent over a million on a new pitch to see us get dicked eight times in the first season on it. Or have we forgotten that too? I haven't.

Why does the word 'agenda' always come to mind?

For whom? Me? You? Or more correctly. McCabe?

Have a day off, relax and enjoy the sun.

In other words, 'please stop serving me my arse over an incompetent spectral idiot who is now out the door, yet in his death throes, twisting the knife deeper'.

BTW, me, cross? Not a bit of it old bean,

Not even about McCabe's plans for development on the BDTBL footprint? My, we are brainwashed, aren't we?

pommpey

 

[I should coco]

Not even about McCabe's plans for development on the BDTBL footprint? My, we are brainwashed, aren't we?

Grow up.

You can put down the wax crayons and take off the pointy hat. It's not going to happen.

 

[pommpey]

Grow up.

You can put down the wax crayons and take off the pointy hat. It's not going to happen.

There we go, readers. Straight from the keyboard of someone clearly ITK and someone clearly close by Kevin McCabe to clarify his seemingly apparent intent to fuck Sheffield United a new arsehole. Maybe HRH should have given you a swift call first before being sufficiently rattled to issue public statements and engage his legal team. Yep. Give coco a bell first feller. McCabe says these things but never goes ahead with them. Like flogging players and hiring and firing managers.

Yeah. I ... and many more ... will just 'grow up' whilst your hero does his stuff, huh?

pommpey

 

[I should coco]

Yeah. I ... and many more ... will just 'grow up' whilst your hero does his stuff, huh?

No you won't.

You will carry on ranting and shouting from the hip, as per usual.

He isn't a 'hero', but he isn't the devil incarnate either.

Why not let your blood pressure settle down and watch how it pans out?
You'd save yourself a fortune on worn out keyboards.

X

 

[pommpey]

No you won't.

You will carry on ranting and shouting from the hip, as per usual.

He isn't a 'hero', but he isn't the devil incarnate either.

Why not let your blood pressure settle down and watch how it pans out?
You'd save yourself a fortune on worn out keyboards.

X

It's always a well-rehearsed practice for internet trolls to adopt the 'you need to calm down' when they are being roundly served their arse on a subject. As you have zero indication of my demeanour, what makes you do this, save for the fact that all the 'evidence' you supply (some of it in capitals, angry-bloke) is palpable bollocks?

Look, you might be McCabe's son, brother, pool-cleaner or have a small bedroom at home with a huge mural hand painted on it of the man himself. I don't care. What I care about is Sheffield United. Always have done. McCabe however has revealed that despite people like you circling your wagons (sorry, just the one wagon these days) any time someone has something objectionable to say about his competence or conduct, you are now out of bullets. It's McCabe himself who is making you look like a bigger schmuck than you were a few seasons ago when the likes of me, Metal, Barney and others were getting pelters just for daring suggest he was a thoughtless, useless wanker of the first order and needed his own place in any new rewrite of Fit and Proper. But no ... we were WRONG ... because he'd saved the club from burning to the deck ... personally bought every fucking artefact in and around the ground and was personally paying people (and buying their Bovril and Pukkas) to turn up and watch us lose to people like Shrewsbury , Colchester, Peterborough and Burton ... on our new pitch he'd actually laid himself and drawn the very lines on. I mean ... let's not mention the three year contracted previous season's top scorer going to Brighton or the tip=top acquisition of Sammon and Woolford, eh?

(totally calm here, BTW ... if in many ways, amused by rolling this out, once again)

Blame the managers, if you want. But the three consistent things throughout our demise have been:

1. Bramall Lane
2. The supporters
3. Kevin McCabe

You do the maths, coco. Give you a clue: Now McCabe has been eased out, we are near the top of the PL.

pommpey

 

[I should coco]

It's always a well-rehearsed practice for internet trolls to adopt the 'you need to calm down' when they are being roundly served their arse on a subject

Thanks for the lesson.

I guess you'd know how trolls work though.

As you have zero indication of my demeanour, what makes you do this, save for the fact that all the 'evidence' you supply (some of it in capitals, angry-bloke) is palpable bollocks?

Are you now saying that I shouldn't begin sentences with capital letters? Otherwise I haven't got the foggiest what you are on about. Perhaps you shouldn't eat so many of those wax crayons.

 

[Balham]

Still finished 11th though.

Imagine how bad the teams that got relegated that season must have been.

The four relegated sides haven't been as bad as some season's vintages - two bounced straight back up and have stayed in L1 since, neither of the others has slipped into non-league:

Team	2015/16	2016/17	2017/18	2018/19	2019/20*
Crewe	L1: 21st (R)	L2: 17th	L2: 15th	L2: 12th	L2: 1st
Colchester	L1: 22nd (R)	L2: 8th	L2: 12th	L2: 8th	L2: 6th
Doncaster	L1: 23rd (R)	L2: 3rd (P)	L1: 15th	L1: 6th (lost PO semi)	L1: 9th
Blackpool	L1: 24th (R)	L2: 7th (P- PlayOffs)	L1: 12th	L1: 10th	L1: 13th

 

[pommpey]

Thanks for the lesson.

Always a pleasure. Regardless of you insisting I am 'angry', it's always great calling out the irreversibly stupid and deluded, even when they are shown where the stupidity is. Donald Trump himself has nothing on you, does he?

I guess you'd know how trolls work though.

Well, being as it has invariably been you trolling me throughout this and countless other threads and effectively offering nothing but easily defeated 'a

Are you now saying that I shouldn't begin sentences with capital letters? Otherwise I haven't got the foggiest what you are on about. Perhaps you shouldn't eat so many of those wax crayons.

No. I give you this:

Credit for stepping forward in the shitty position we were in circa 2000 - NONE

Credit for improving much of the Lane with real bricks and mortar, rather than tarpaulins - NONE

Credit for bringing the prince in - NONE

Credit for (jointly) bringing CW in - NONE

In your head, were you shouting 'NONE!' at the keyboard as your angry little fingers stabbed at the letters?

Wax crayons, indeed.

pommpey

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Always a pleasure. Regardless of you insisting I am 'angry', it's always great calling out the irreversibly stupid and deluded, even when they are shown where the stupidity is. Donald Trump himself has nothing on you, does he?



Well, being as it has invariably been you trolling me throughout this and countless other threads and effectively offering nothing but easily defeated 'a



No. I give you this:



In your head, were you shouting 'NONE!' at the keyboard as your angry little fingers stabbed at the letters?

Wax crayons, indeed.

pommpey

Could you not just shut up for a bit? Take a look at the shitshow on shoutbox and the wider picture.

 

[pommpey]

Could you not just shut up for a bit? Take a look at the shitshow on shoutbox and the wider picture.

What? Me? Or Coco?

I'll answer. Nope.

pommpey

 

[I should coco]

Well, being as it has invariably been you trolling me throughout this and countless other threads and effectively offering nothing but easily defeated 'a

So having an opposing view to yours is now 'trolling'?

Countless other threads, really?

You levels of delusion approach those at S6, with you insisting every time how you've 'schooled' me and 'won' again. If that makes you happy then fine, but please don't think I give a shiny shit.

You think the world's about to fall in because of McCabe, I don't.

I'll leave it there,

 

[pommpey]

So having an opposing view to yours is now 'trolling'?

It's you, with an opposing view, who brought the term up. Countering that opposing view with evidence (as I have) isn't trolling is it? Simply disagreeing with it for the sake of it because you have a personal vendetta however is.

Countless other threads, really?

Yeah. Go check. Over several years now, when I have suggested McCabe is less than the vanguard of decency and competence you attest he is, you're climbing up my arse about it. When further challenged, you've offered debatable, dubious bullshit like the four items listed above. And like I say, it's amusing to say to you 'prove it', especially when he's now threatening to fuck the club up by building on strips of land he has purposefully and tactically engineered as his in his mission to blindside the gullible (i.e. 'you') whilst you wave his 'saviour' banner and tell me Sheffield United would be finished without him. Again, without proof. Just conjecture. Strange how when someone who genuinely seems to have forward direction appears, sees through the wholesale bullshit and makes a bid to take the club off him we end up challenging for Europe with a manager even world-class clubs are regarding as mercurial and a set of players who look like they'd eat each others guts out to win big for the badge. Don't believe me? Have a comparison about that this whole thread is about. Where are they now? Where is McCabe now? Where is your point, exactly?

You levels of delusion approach those at S6,

Ooof. Of used comparator #2318. Badly used too. Let me refresh, once more. Club does shit under McCabe. McCabe fucks up. McCabe loses club. Club does well. That's 'deluded'? How much more deluded is that than

Credit for stepping forward in the shitty position we were in circa 2000 - NONE

Credit for improving much of the Lane with real bricks and mortar, rather than tarpaulins - NONE

Credit for bringing the prince in - NONE

Credit for (jointly) bringing CW in - NONE

You really think that gains any purchase on the generally held belief he was bad for the club (check the poll, why don't you?)

with you insisting every time how you've 'schooled' me and 'won' again. If that makes you happy then fine, but please don't think I give a shiny shit.

Well, stop replying then. Then I'll know you don't care. So will everyone else.

You think the world's about to fall in because of McCabe, I don't.

No, I think McCabe is a vindictive, stupid bastard who really needs to count his losses and fuck off. There's a marginal chance he might get his way and build on the BDTBL footprint. If he does, and it impacts on the club, I expect you'll be back on here to justify that, huh?

I'll leave it there,

You won't. Mind you, I am impressed that you've not ranged the 'how many games have you been to' old chestnut, so well done. Being as no one is going to games mind, it's a tough old call anyway. Feel free to use any other 'Bigger Blade Than Thou' instruments of ownage though. McCabe is still lower than whaleshit in my eyes, and get this - I told you so.

pommpey

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

 

[NorthYorkshireBlade1889]

1:52 got 5 seconds through the George long talk and switched off when I realised the vid was on for 11 mins.i could have googled it all in 2 mins the guy just seems to talk to much lol.

 

[Tezza1889]

I'm afraid to even click the play button on this.

 

[SouthStandGBlock]

So we're talking about how bad the team was under Adkins, I point out that he inherited most of the crud you suddenly start saying it's all McCabe's fault, I'm all for the evolution of a conversation but that was a bit of a jump!
So now I'll defend McCabe; he was an enabler, provided the funds, oversaw the running of the club so we didn't end up like any of the clubs fixing the books. He gambled and lost (when we were relegated from the Prem) and fixed it himself, no going bust and keeping all the assets like a good few clubs have done, if you were ever a sub contractor to Sheffield United you would be grateful for that. He annually provided money from his own pocket to keep the club competitive, we had a string of previously successful managers of whom very few people complained about their appointments (beforehand)*, I don't know feasibly what more he could have done? It must've been exasperating for him to keep digging deep and appointing the best managers available only for it to go wrong over and over again.

* I did about Robson and I'm sure there were a good few others, however without knowing the truth I feel there were mitigating circumstances.
[/QUOTE

Spot on. I'm getting sick of the McCabe bashing. He's been a good chairman for the most part, he made mistakes but paid for them himself. Yes we were in League 1 for 6 years under his tenure, but he provided resource, the managers picked the team. He must have been as exasperated as the rest of us at times. He rolled the dice with the Prince and lost, and it all got snarky at the end, but I never thought we would ever be in financial difficulties whilst he was chairman, and we have had a few chairmen in the past you couldn't say that about. Some of the rubbish Clough signed, and Adkins inherited but didn't deal with, wasn't the chairmans fault. It needed the clear vision CW brought to sort it, but CW was slightly fortunate as lots of contracts were ending for the poor players, so they could be moved on. He still needed to sort Hammond out though, which was an Adkins legacy.

 

[I should coco]

I'm afraid to even click the play button on this.

"Geese......blah blah blah......pressure.....diamonds.......endeavour....blah blah blah......biggest room.....improvement......blah blah blah"

Did I miss anything?

 

[SouthStandGBlock]

He's cost me a fortune in therapist costs, I'm still following the trawler now. There's no way I'm opening that.

 

[GrayBlade]

Nigel Adkins, the worst thing to happen to SUFC for 100 years.

Bad as Adkins was, I think that ‘honour’ goes to Brian Robson.

 

[kevreedy]

The worst manager we ever had is Harry Haslam then Martin Peter.took us down to Div four.
Then Atkins 11th league one.worst since relegation to div four.Haslam's great forward line.
Bourne Butlin and Guy.can anyone think of any worst than that ?.

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

I'm still not sure about Mr McCabe's involvement with the overseas clubs in China, Eastern Europe and South America, was the idea really to benefit our Club with a string of overseas players, or just to open doors for his company using the clubs name. ?..

 

[Silent Blade]

The worst manager we ever had is Harry Haslam then Martin Peter.took us down to Div four.
Then Atkins 11th league one.worst since relegation to div four.Haslam's great forward line.
Bourne Butlin and Guy.can anyone think of any worst than that ?.

Weir was the worst

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

I'm still not sure about Mr McCabe's involvement with the overseas clubs in China, Eastern Europe and South America, was the idea really to benefit our Club with a string of overseas players, or just to open doors for his company using the clubs name. ?..

I remember reading an article about how Sheffield United were so "forward looking" having an affiliated club in China. I just thought "if it is a good idea, why aren't the likes of Real Madrid and Manchester United doing this?". Funnily enough we found out the answer in due course.