NEXT !!

[PeteBlade]

Ive done absolutely nothing to it
why should I

its crystal clear

its you 2 thats questioning it varasity

I take it for exactly what it says , I read nothing into it at all

the money was there,,

are you saying Adkins is telling lies

Are you capable of comprehending the scenario I mentioned?

I've given up asking if you think our squad is worth £8.5 million as previously suggested as you don't answer.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

It will be someone out of work and cheap, the usual money saving McCabe style managerial appointment.

So Clough and Adkins were cheap? Doubt if Weir was a cheap option either. If he was being cheap he wouldn't be firing these guys and having to replace them...

Doing things on the cheap can't be leveled at McC.

He does seem to dip his hand in his pocket bearing in mind what league we are in.

It's his decision making that's the problem.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

it wasnt a case of the money not being enough Fulham were loathe to release Burn due to needing cover in their quest to stay up
They refused to release him
your totally making assumptions it wasnt enough

have you proof for your theory
or its just what you imagine as usual

Every player has a price. Offer enough and they will come (bar players at top clubs not wanting to drop down the levels). So clearly, we didn’t offer enough to get him or the other targets because they didn’t come. If it was a one off, “I would say fair enough we don’t want to be held to ransom” but it goes back to August 2014. Clough had 3 targets he wanted before the close of the window and we failed on all of them. August 2015 the same happened to Adkins with Hammond, Burn and allegedly one other target. Adkins spends the autumn talking about staying in touch til January when we can strengthen and we sign nobody. Bradford’s late challenge has shown that even though we were a fair way off, with a couple of decent additions, it might have still been possible. Preston showed it last season with the signings of Daniel Johnson and Jermaine Beckford.


That’s 3 out of the last four windows where we’ve failed to bring in any of our top targets. Adkins was manager for two of them.


Let’s also not forget the failed bids for Mackay Steven, Johnny Russell (offer described as derisory), O Grady, Bradley Wright Phillips, etc. It’s all well and good saying we tried but too often those efforts fail to materialise into anything worthwhile which makes me believe we don’t try hard enough.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

well if he is just an apologist , the quicker he goes the better

You show me a manager that is not an apologist or yes man and I’ll show you an unemployed manager.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Doing things on the cheap can't be leveled at McC.

He does seem to dip his hand in his pocket bearing in mind what league we are in.

It's his decision making that's the problem.

He goes through phases of putting his hand in his pocket, realizing he’s backed the wrong horse, then following it up with a period of crippling austerity meaning the managers who come in during that period are pretty much fucked (Blackwell and Adkins being the main victims).

 

[blade too long]

Are you capable of comprehending the scenario I mentioned?

I've given up asking if you think our squad is worth £8.5 million as previously suggested as you don't answer.

its an independant assessment not mine
it wont be far off due to the high players we have, or had
any scenario you have is so out there even Stephen Hawkins would have trouble visualising it

 

[pommpey]

Every player has a price. Offer enough and they will come (bar players at top clubs not wanting to drop down the levels). So clearly, we didn’t offer enough to get him or the other targets because they didn’t come. If it was a one off, “I would say fair enough we don’t want to be held to ransom” but it goes back to August 2014. Clough had 3 targets he wanted before the close of the window and we failed on all of them. August 2015 the same happened to Adkins with Hammond, Burn and allegedly one other target. Adkins spends the autumn talking about staying in touch til January when we can strengthen and we sign nobody. Bradford’s late challenge has shown that even though we were a fair way off, with a couple of decent additions, it might have still been possible. Preston showed it last season with the signings of Daniel Johnson and Jermaine Beckford.


That’s 3 out of the last four windows where we’ve failed to bring in any of our top targets. Adkins was manager for two of them.


Let’s also not forget the failed bids for Mackay Steven, Johnny Russell (offer described as derisory), O Grady, Bradley Wright Phillips, etc. It’s all well and good saying we tried but too often those efforts fail to materialise into anything worthwhile which makes me believe we don’t try hard enough.

And of those you mention, they are precisely the type of signings we should be making, not 'making do' with the likes of Coutts, Woolford, Higdon et al. Beckford was mercurial on Preston's upward motion last year. Okay, he can be injury prone but imagine a front line in our squad based on him and Billy Sharp. Johnny Russell should have been a target we were willing to meet the asking price for because he is Championship level and at Division One level will make the squad a lot stronger. BWP also.

I am still unconvinced about the opinion of Clough's squad being solely of his own making. I think he was forced to buy cheaper options (because of wages) and did so on the assumption that further funds would be available to go for the target players at the start of this season. No one knows why Clough was sacked, but one can safely assume it wasn't because he wasn't fond of the decor in the team manager's office at BDTBL. Looking at Adkins now, he seems to have found some sort of better way of playing a bunch of rag-tag rejects (largely) and some poor acquisitions grinding out results to suit (and we overlook that many of them are on the rock 'n' roll at the end of this season so the chance of contract renewal looms large in their minds. It's also noteworthy that as soon as we look like not going up, suddenly we are putting performances in at home against fancied teams which suggest these players have a little more in their tanks than we have been lamenting.

Strange things going on down there.

pommpey

 

[PeteBlade]

its an independant assessment not mine
it wont be far off due to the high players we have, or had
any scenario you have is so out there even Stephen Hawkins would have trouble visualising it

So no, you aren't capable.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

He goes through phases of putting his hand in his pocket, realizing he’s backed the wrong horse, then following it up with a period of crippling austerity meaning the managers who come in during that period are pretty much fucked (Blackwell and Adkins being the main victims).

Exactly. It's the crippling lack of consistency that's killing.

No-one can deny the levels of expenditure during last season's January window or under Nobson, it's the vast disparity between those splurges and the austerity at other times (including now) that's so damaging.

Even so, Adkins has played the shabby cards he's been dealt poorly up until now (with the exception of his buying Billy Sharp).