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Blade1959 said:
That’s not the argument
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Wow Edwards Hatton Morris or McGoldrick,Brewster,McBernie which fire power do you want it's simple,the trouble is it has to be the 80s that how far we've come and you know it
 
j woolston said:
Wow Edwards Hatton Morris or McGoldrick,Brewster,McBernie which fire power do you want it's simple,the trouble is it has to be the 80s that how far we've come and you know it
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I know you are comparing a 4th Division team who were playing the likes of Hartlepool etc with a team that’s playing multi millionaire teams four divisions higher & you think the 4th division team would win.
 
Blade1959 said:
I know you are comparing a 4th Division team who were playing the likes of Hartlepool etc with a team that’s playing multi millionaire teams four divisions higher & you think the 4th division team would win.
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Come on you know you want to say it one more chance.......Would you want Edwards,Hatton,Morris in their prime or McGoldrick,Brewster,McBernie do you think Edwards,Hatton,Morris would do more damage no matter what league they were in or McGoldrick,Brewster,McBernie just look at the goals scored come on its there for you right there
 
Pedro Verde said:
You have to put 'records' into context
A team that gets relegated out of the top division surely has to be better than one that gets relegated from the third division
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No you don’t, when you look through the record books in ten years time for the lowest points total in a season etc this team will come up. The opposition should be better the higher up you are but so should you it’s all relevant.
 
djbaldken said:
I ve seen several posts on here that seem to think next season we ll be back in the mix for promotion or even automatic.
Not a hope in hell in my opinion.

First of all, the manager situation.
Its been 6 weeks now since Widers departure and we are still no closer to a definate replacement. If the powers that be are serious about our return to the so called best league in the world ,surely someone of substance would have been brought in by now. We dont even look close to signing anyone of note. Knowing our history it is going to be either Heckinbottom or Tindle. In which case God help us.

Now the squad.
High chance Berge will be gone , if not in the close season then definitely by January. Similarly with Egan, JOC and maybe Ramsdale and Baldock.

Leaving us with a nucleus of who exactly?

Billy, McGoldrick and Basham. All good solid pro's but ageing.

Jimmy (not John) Fleck. Norwood. Stevens. All of them half the players they were last season. Osborn, Busy player with potential in Championship
Bryan, Lowe, Bogle. Inconsistent at best
Rodwell and Robinson, medicore Championship level. Jags, excellent pro but ancient.

And an attack force of:
Mcburnie, hardly a prolifict goalscorer. Brewster, (did we really pay £23 million????) not a sniff of a goal in 24 appearnces. Burke. speed of a cheetah, football ability of a cheetah. Mousset (see Burke)

Lundstrum, well we all know his situation. The thing that worries me most is, who in their right mind will come in for him even on a free. Please dont let him stay.

I know we have bright prospects in some of our youngsters but knowing us of old they will not be given the opportunity of first team football with us but most likely be off loaded cheap.

Unless we get a manager who knows the championship well, and can motivate this depleted, lack of confidence bunch we currently have , then we are screwed. He will also need to be backed to bring in good quality players at this level. Our history does not bode well in this case.

I predict another long hard season in which we will finish bottom half. I hope I'm wrong and will be happy to be proved so.

Tin hat now on.
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So you're a glass half-empty kinda guy?
 
Woodys Thunderbolt said:
No you don’t, when you look through the record books in ten years time for the lowest points total in a season etc this team will come up. The opposition should be better the higher up you are but so should you it’s all relevant.
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The history books will show weve played in the 4th Division
Getting points in the top division is a lot, lot harder than getting points in the 3rd division
The gulfs between the divisions have also got wider since the 80s
The history books will show the worst team in SUFC history is the one that got relegated from the 3rd division
The context is everything. The team we have now have played at the highest level for 2 seasons not got relegated to the lowest league tier in English football
 
j woolston said:
Come on you know you want to say it one more chance.......Would you want Edwards,Hatton,Morris in their prime or McGoldrick,Brewster,McBernie do you think Edwards,Hatton,Morris would do more damage no matter what league they were in or McGoldrick,Brewster,McBernie just look at the goals scored come on its there for you right there
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Obviously Edwards Hatton & Morris in their prime did more damage in the league they were in, thanks for giving me one more chance to say that!
BUT, given their career stats,what evidence do you have to say that they would be be in a team that would beat a premier league team?
That is what you said
 
j woolston said:
Kenworthy was on his way to Norwich City Peters had sold him that season Everton,Nottingham Forest,Leeds United even Derby County when Mike Watterson owned them I know David Pleat rang him personally Luton Town.Kenworthy to his credit stayed, he loves S.U.F.C he loves Sheffield and Sheffield people. He told me personally that he's now a supporter and he's envious of the supporters been able to go to the Lane every other week (before covid)
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I recall his og at the Lane playing for Mansfield Town in 1988 after he'd left us.
 



Silent Blade said:
FA Cup replay
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Crikey yes. From memory.
Mansfield.
Doncaster away 3 1 win. Huddersfield away 1 0 Agana beauty out on right, left foot.
Norwich 3 2 away defeat?
, League Cup was Newcastle United we won 3 0 at Lane lost 2 0 away so won 3 2.
Stancliffe, Deane 2?? Man City beat us 4 2 next round.
Duffield 2?? Or 1...and 1 Bryson??
 
djbaldken said:
I ve seen several posts on here that seem to think next season we ll be back in the mix for promotion or even automatic.
Not a hope in hell in my opinion.

First of all, the manager situation.
Its been 6 weeks now since Widers departure and we are still no closer to a definate replacement. If the powers that be are serious about our return to the so called best league in the world ,surely someone of substance would have been brought in by now. We dont even look close to signing anyone of note. Knowing our history it is going to be either Heckinbottom or Tindle. In which case God help us.

Now the squad.
High chance Berge will be gone , if not in the close season then definitely by January. Similarly with Egan, JOC and maybe Ramsdale and Baldock.

Leaving us with a nucleus of who exactly?

Billy, McGoldrick and Basham. All good solid pro's but ageing.

Jimmy (not John) Fleck. Norwood. Stevens. All of them half the players they were last season. Osborn, Busy player with potential in Championship
Bryan, Lowe, Bogle. Inconsistent at best
Rodwell and Robinson, medicore Championship level. Jags, excellent pro but ancient.

And an attack force of:
Mcburnie, hardly a prolifict goalscorer. Brewster, (did we really pay £23 million????) not a sniff of a goal in 24 appearnces. Burke. speed of a cheetah, football ability of a cheetah. Mousset (see Burke)

Lundstrum, well we all know his situation. The thing that worries me most is, who in their right mind will come in for him even on a free. Please dont let him stay.

I know we have bright prospects in some of our youngsters but knowing us of old they will not be given the opportunity of first team football with us but most likely be off loaded cheap.

Unless we get a manager who knows the championship well, and can motivate this depleted, lack of confidence bunch we currently have , then we are screwed. He will also need to be backed to bring in good quality players at this level. Our history does not bode well in this case.

I predict another long hard season in which we will finish bottom half. I hope I'm wrong and will be happy to be proved so.

Tin hat now on.
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McBurnie and Brewster have prolific records in the championship and are another year closer to their prime. McBurnie for example has bulked up and become more aggressive.

Don’t panic, we will be fine
 
j woolston said:
Wow Edwards Hatton Morris or McGoldrick,Brewster,McBernie which fire power do you want it's simple,the trouble is it has to be the 80s that how far we've come and you know it
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You don't even know if those players would have hacked the level of fitness lifestyle pace of the game certainly at PL level. Would Vinny Jones have made it at PL level today -? it's all relative
 
j woolston said:
Wow Edwards Hatton Morris or McGoldrick,Brewster,McBernie which fire power do you want it's simple,the trouble is it has to be the 80s that how far we've come and you know it
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I'll answer it. For next season, 2021/22 in The Championship, I'd rather take McGoldrick, Brewster and McBurnie.
All three have already scored more goals collectively at that level than the legends you mentioned did with us.
 
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djbaldken said:
I ve seen several posts on here that seem to think next season we ll be back in the mix for promotion or even automatic.
Not a hope in hell in my opinion.

First of all, the manager situation.
Its been 6 weeks now since Widers departure and we are still no closer to a definate replacement. If the powers that be are serious about our return to the so called best league in the world ,surely someone of substance would have been brought in by now. We dont even look close to signing anyone of note. Knowing our history it is going to be either Heckinbottom or Tindle. In which case God help us.

Now the squad.
High chance Berge will be gone , if not in the close season then definitely by January. Similarly with Egan, JOC and maybe Ramsdale and Baldock.

Leaving us with a nucleus of who exactly?

Billy, McGoldrick and Basham. All good solid pro's but ageing.

Jimmy (not John) Fleck. Norwood. Stevens. All of them half the players they were last season. Osborn, Busy player with potential in Championship
Bryan, Lowe, Bogle. Inconsistent at best
Rodwell and Robinson, medicore Championship level. Jags, excellent pro but ancient.

And an attack force of:
Mcburnie, hardly a prolifict goalscorer. Brewster, (did we really pay £23 million????) not a sniff of a goal in 24 appearnces. Burke. speed of a cheetah, football ability of a cheetah. Mousset (see Burke)

Lundstrum, well we all know his situation. The thing that worries me most is, who in their right mind will come in for him even on a free. Please dont let him stay.

I know we have bright prospects in some of our youngsters but knowing us of old they will not be given the opportunity of first team football with us but most likely be off loaded cheap.

Unless we get a manager who knows the championship well, and can motivate this depleted, lack of confidence bunch we currently have , then we are screwed. He will also need to be backed to bring in good quality players at this level. Our history does not bode well in this case.

I predict another long hard season in which we will finish bottom half. I hope I'm wrong and will be happy to be proved so.

Tin hat now on.
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I would expect ~18 to 20 teams in the Championship next season envious of our squad.
 
hello said:
Crikey yes. From memory.
Mansfield.
Doncaster away 3 1 win. Huddersfield away 1 0 Agana beauty out on right, left foot.
Norwich 3 2 away defeat?
, League Cup was Newcastle United we won 3 0 at Lane lost 2 0 away so won 3 2.
Stancliffe, Deane 2?? Man City beat us 4 2 next round.
Duffield 2?? Or 1...and 1 Bryson??
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The click means vindication.@SilentBlade 😂Memory function.. Intact. Many thanks. 😊🤣
 
Woodys Thunderbolt said:
Statistically Yes.
80/81 side gained more points, won more games, scored more goals, lost less games etc etc etc
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That's a little unfair.

Statistically it has been shown to be the worst Sheffield United side to compete in the first division, not necessarily the worst side in our entire history.
 



ATL Recs said:
You don't even know if those players would have hacked the level of fitness lifestyle pace of the game certainly at PL level. Would Vinny Jones have made it at PL level today -? it's all relative
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What a load of rubbish fitness do me a favour you say fitness if so tell Brewster to run about a bit
 
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