Name our 'good' performances so far this season

[Slim Man]

Wah wah you entitled c**t bedwetter t**t.
There, got it in before you lot could.

I'm intrigued to what the thoughts are on this.

Inarguable: Oxford, Luton and Boro @ home / Blackburn and QPR away

Opinion based (not necessarily mine): Wednesday, Sunderland and Leeds @ home / Hull, Cardiff and Preston away

Even being a bit generous with those, I'm struggling to come up with more than 11 games we've played well in. I wouldn't say one or two in the line above were good performances, but I'm happy to concede to others who might.

It's just dismal dross for 2/3 of the season so far. And plenty more to come. Yay!
The lazy coaching needs to stop. Entertain your 'punters' Chris and maybe they won't leave before the injury time board comes up.
Just a thought.

Anyone else got any to add to the 'good' performances?

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Wah wah you entitled c**t bedwetter t**t.

EDIT: Damn, you beat me to it.

 

[UddersBlade]

Middlesbrough at home probably best of season. Actually thought we played well against Pigs at home too. But I know what you mean - we have ‘ground’ out loads of wins in tight games.

 

[Slim Man]

Middlesbrough at home probably best of season. Actually thought we played well against Pigs at home too. But I know what you mean - we have ‘ground’ out loads of wins in tight games.

Even against the shit in the league we have managed to stink the place out

 

[Blade56]

Boro was our one and only dominant performance all others have been ground out performances with individual moves of quality ie Campbell build up and goal last night.

Dogged by injury and poor tactics/subs

Leeds, Burnley and Sunderland’s losses have all been by just 1 goal. Ours have been 2-3. We scored a couple of 3’s but no 4 & 5 goals all season unlike the others

 

[Not_a_Cheat]

With an almost complete team rebuild why do some fans feel we should even be in the top half, nevermind actually top of the league?

So we probably should be playing like a bottom half side, and not entertaining like the billionaire one club city teams. I wonder how many scintillating performances fans of Preston, QPR and Stoke can point to. 3 random teams from top of my head

Just IMO

 

[Stretch]

Do we mean good as in decent or good as in blowing teams away? If the latter then perhaps we need to lower our expectations a bit.

But for what it's worth these are the games where I recall that we looked reasonably comfortable, spent large spells on top, perhaps without dominating.

Home:
Wrexham, Boro, Oxford, Luton, Pigs and Norwich.

Away:
Preston, Hull, Blackburn, Brizzle (2nd half, especially after conceding), and Watford.


Then we have had a load where it has been tight and the game could have gone either way, which probably applies to most teams in the league. And whilst many performances have been a bit underwhelming, I don't think we have had many genuinely bad performances.

At the end of the day though, we must be doing something right. Teams come with many styles, tactics and formations, and most have their good and bad points. We seem to be that team that can turn it on in spells, but mainly just get the job done. Nowt wrong with that. After 37 matches everyone in the division is exactly where they deserve to be.

 

[Enigmatic]

Surely at this stage of the season points on the board are the primary indicator of ‘good’ performances?

Finding a way to win is a painfully undervalued quality. As it stands, we have accumulated more points on the pitch than any other team in the league.

What exactly are you getting at in your OP? Would you rather swap places with Middlesbrough or Sunderland, simply because they have younger, more fashionable managers and play ‘the right way’?

Because I would personally rather see a team replete with grit, resilience, individual quality and a knack for walking away with 3 points most weeks - a team we have built in the space of 2 transfer windows, no less.

Dear me. Short memories on this forum.

 

[Stretch]

Do we mean good as in decent or good as in blowing teams away? If the latter then perhaps we need to lower our expectations a bit.

But for what it's worth these are the games where I recall that we looked reasonably comfortable, spent large spells on top, perhaps without dominating.

Home:
Wrexham, Boro, Oxford, Luton, Pigs and Norwich.

Away:
Preston, Hull, Blackburn, Brizzle (2nd half, especially after conceding), and Watford.


Then we have had a load where it has been tight and the game could have gone either way, which probably applies to most teams in the league. And whilst many performances have been a bit underwhelming, I don't think we have had many genuinely bad performances.

At the end of the day though, we must be doing something right. Teams come with many styles, tactics and formations, and most have their good and bad points. We seem to be that team that can turn it on in spells, but mainly just get the job done. Nowt wrong with that. After 37 matches everyone in the division is exactly where they deserve to be.

Edit - on reflection I missed Leeds at home which definitely deserves a good rating, and fuck it I am also going to say Sunderland at home too. They claim to have dominated that match, which was complete bollocks. It was very tight and we created the best chances. Considering how well they were doing at the time, that was definitely a performance to be proud of.

 

[YES Blade]

Define a good performance!

Going away, defending well and getting a tight win has always been a good performance to me.

I think you mean entertaining performances, which I think we can all agree have been few and far between this season.

 

[YES Blade]

With an almost complete team rebuild why do some fans feel we should even be in the top half, nevermind actually top of the league?

So we probably should be playing like a bottom half side, and not entertaining like the billionaire one club city teams. I wonder how many scintillating performances fans of Preston, QPR and Stoke can point to. 3 random teams from top of my head

Just IMO

As you asked, I feel we should be a top half team because we have one of the biggest budgets in the division. In fact with our budget, anything less than playoffs is a failure.

That’s nothing to do with performances, we should and are getting the results that clubs with big budgets get.

 

[Gin&Juice]

Bristol werent anything special. Looked suspect at the back, played that stupid back 4 possession and almost got caught out. They didn't look anything special. Similar to a lot of teams in the middling Championship. With the quality we have we should be minimum 2 goals to good at around 80 mins.

Individual quality is winning us games from the usual suspects, but in general just generic stale shite with no cohesion. Complete difference from the side that went up in 2019.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Even against the shit in the league we have managed to stink the place out

Outplayed by Plymouth.
Also by Portsmouth.
Both at the Lane, both bottom 3 when played. Somehow we won both matches.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

Surely at this stage of the season points on the board are the primary indicator of ‘good’ performances?

Finding a way to win is a painfully undervalued quality. As it stands, we have accumulated more points on the pitch than any other team in the league.

What exactly are you getting at in your OP? Would you rather swap places with Middlesbrough or Sunderland, simply because they have younger, more fashionable managers and play ‘the right way’?

Because I would personally rather see a team replete with grit, resilience, individual quality and a knack for walking away with 3 points most weeks - a team we have built in the space of 2 transfer windows, no less.

Dear me. Short memories on this forum.

If we go up we all know its going to be horrific viewing, but steadies the finances for another pop at the championship and apparently that's a level of existence we're wiling to accept.

But what we don't expect is for the promotion season to be horrific viewing too. Its depressing enough knowing we're going to look shit after promotion, without somehow managing to look shit prior to promotion too. Isn't this supposed to be fun?

It seems some fans dont really care about what they see on the pitch for 90 minutes as long as they can rub one out over the league table afterwards. I wish I was one of those people, it must be a nice simple existence.

 

[Bell4]

The stand out performance for me was Blackburn away . Looked fast , mobile , athletic , skilful , strong and overwhelmed a decent side.

Outstanding performance of the season for a player is Keifer Moore in the same match (closely follows by Vinnie) . One of the most complete exhibitions of CF play I’ve witnessed in many a year .

Imo

 

[Berkshire Blade]

I'd say roughly on par with the Hecky promotion/play off charge seasons and even the wilder 2019 promotion

The championship isn't about looking good it's a slog. When Swansea click they can play lovely stuff but it doesn't mean points for example

I am not a fan of this league and people who do like it do not seem to know what's needed to get points regularly enough to go up.

 

[CPB]

I think what we are missing is being more dominant in games rather than performances in a way. Its having long enough spells in games.

And what I mean by that is like last night we were on top just before and after our goal. About 10 mins we looked the better team the direction of travel of the game was consistently going towards their goal. Bristol city were the better team last night no doubt. But we created probably as many good chances despite our play.

But we seem to not always manage alot of dominant spells during games.

What I do notice is that when we do score the build up play and intricacies are usually really well worked. Such as last night's goal. Clever quick passes, nice turn smart finish. There are good players there that enable that to happen and the coaching also has to be there to for it to happen.

What I feel is though that is our mode of play. And because of that we can easily give the ball away in the final 3rd. In a way if we just played mostly down the channels and crossed in we might find we feel we have more of the game.
But the effectiveness might not be there!?

Don't get me wrong I want to see us play like that 10 mins spell for like 60+ mins.

Perhaps it's the ever changing squad due to injuries and keeping players fresh. Perhaps it's the rebuild job. Perhaps it's a bit of everything including some coaching.

Fact is we are sort of top. (See what Leeds do) And with 9 games to go in a good position to go up.

And before we worry about next season. Let's go up if we can.
And I don't think the summer would be a car crash like 2 years ago too. There isn't any risk of losing key players for less than their value (contracts are in a good place)

And because these new owners have ambitions it would seem. Yeah we would be favs for relegation again. But only requires some sides to drop off like wolves and it's possible.

 

[Enigmatic]

If we go up we all know its going to be horrific viewing, but steadies the finances for another pop at the championship and apparently that's a level of existence we're wiling to accept.

But what we don't expect is for the promotion season to be horrific viewing too. Its depressing enough knowing we're going to look shit after promotion, without somehow managing to look shit prior to promotion too. Isn't this supposed to be fun?

It seems some fans dont really care about what they see on the pitch for 90 minutes as long as they can rub one out over the league table afterwards. I wish I was one of those people, it must be a nice simple existence.

Horrific viewing? Are you watching the same games I am? Your attitude reeks of entitlement.

The reality of the matter is that our previous owner lacked the funds to have a proper go at the Premier League. It appears (at least on first impressions) our new owners do not lack funds. It's unreasonable and slightly naïve to assume that if we did get promoted that it would be a repeat of last season.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

We've played well for over 60 minutes about 6 or 7 times in my estimation

And they probably got a bollocking for those under Wilder's 'No Unnecessary Entertainment' philosophy

Scoring 3 goals only twice (both at home) is incredible, and reveals a lot. And even those were probably accidental. He probably apologised to the opposition managers afterwards. For some context, Wednesday have scored 3 goals twice away from home in the last week

We've got a bunch of generally superior players who seem to be sent out every game with an inferiority complex

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Horrific viewing? Are you watching the same games I am? Your attitude reeks of entitlement.

The reality of the matter is that our previous owner lacked the funds to have a proper go at the Premier League. It appears (at least on first impressions) our new owners do not lack funds. It's unreasonable and slightly naïve to assume that if we did get promoted that it would be a repeat of last season.

We could buy better than we ever have and it still result in relegation. If Wilder went around in September saying the rebuild is done you could fairly wonder wtf but I don't think he's even said it's finished yet.

And yet some people think we should be much better than a side that's clearly young and having to learn on the job

 

[brownblade]

Another thread about us not being a great team.
Last season disgracefully bad.
This season Top 2 currently.

 

[Enigmatic]

We could buy better than we ever have and it still result in relegation. If Wilder went around in September saying the rebuild is done you could fairly wonder wtf but I don't think he's even said it's finished yet.

And yet some people think we should be much better than a side that's clearly young and having to learn on the job

You're right. Sadly that is the reality of the chasm that's grown between the two divisions.

But we should all be wanting the same outcome—promotion. Frankly, it matters very little how that's achieved... let alone if it's off the back of an abysmal, crushing season after which we've had to build an entire new squad (with a very modest summer budget).

 

[Slim Man]

Bristol werent anything special. Looked suspect at the back, played that stupid back 4 possession and almost got caught out. They didn't look anything special. Similar to a lot of teams in the middling Championship. With the quality we have we should be minimum 2 goals to good at around 80 mins.

Individual quality is winning us games from the usual suspects, but in general just generic stale shite with no cohesion. Complete difference from the side that went up in 2019.

Good summary I'd say

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Wah wah you entitled c**t bedwetter t**t.
There, got it in before you lot could.

I'm intrigued to what the thoughts are on this.

Inarguable: Oxford, Luton and Boro @ home / Blackburn and QPR away

Opinion based (not necessarily mine): Wednesday, Sunderland and Leeds @ home / Hull, Cardiff and Preston away

Even being a bit generous with those, I'm struggling to come up with more than 11 games we've played well in. I wouldn't say one or two in the line above were good performances, but I'm happy to concede to others who might.

It's just dismal dross for 2/3 of the season so far. And plenty more to come. Yay!
The lazy coaching needs to stop. Entertain your 'punters' Chris and maybe they won't leave before the injury time board comes up.
Just a thought.

Anyone else got any to add to the 'good' performances?

Blackburn (a)
Middlesbrough (h)
Oxford (h)
Luton (h)
Preston (a)
Cardiff (a)

The above are the only games I can think of where we were on it for 90 mins and won comfortably.

I actually think we played quite well in the losses to Leeds (h) and Sunderland (a) and were really unfortunate to not get at least a point in each.

However...
... half a dozen good performances over 37 games is quite poor.
We turn up in 1 in every 6 games and never consecutively.
It's quite bizarre. We're capable of so much more and yet somehow we're still top of the league.
In my opinion, we've been extremely fortunate to not draw more games in a similar manner to last night but you take what you can get and move on.

If we get through the next couple of games with at least 4 points... then I fancy us over Burnley in the run-in.
Buggered if we end up in the play-offs though.

As for comparisons to Hecky's promotion season, I think we looked much better that season.
And we're way, way off Wilder's 2019 team.

 

[1889]

People on here saying’ We’re top of the league, yet people are still moaning’
Well it’s with good reason, from an entertainment perspective the football that we play ranges from a 9 to a 2 but is most often around a 4.
Why we play this fucking turgid, boring possession based football is absolutely beyond me?
We have the players/squad to absolutely destroy the majority of teams in the Championship. The home game v Middlesbrough was fantastic, we thrashed them and in the end scoreline flattered them, because we were miles ahead in every department. Against Leeds, we started in the same style and had them penned in their own box for most of the first half.
Why, we don’t play that aggressive in your face attacking style of football every week is beyond me, because when we do, no one can live with us and we’d be several points better off, if we’d consistently employed those tactics all season.
I think Wilder, likes to regard himself as a modern, footballing tactician, rotating the squad, resting players and utilising inverted wingers. He’s basically Poundland Pep, trying to emulate the style of the top Premier league robots with a hugely inferior squad of players.
Please, for the remainder of this season, can we just play the strongest squad available, stop rolling it out to the wing backs, just be aggressive, play attack minded football, close down the opposition, get in their faces and outwork them. By all means, play the close control, intricate one touch football, that we excell at, but for Christ sake let’s do it their fucking box, instead of ours!!!
Let’s get the fans out of their seats, show some passion and generate an atmosphere, because if we do, promotion will take care of itself!

 

[John Street West Terrace]

Boro , Luton , Oxford at The Lane , Blackburn & Hull away our best performances .
But you don’t have 24 wins in the bag so far by being lucky , league tables don’t lie

 

[djbaldken]

It's just dismal dross for 2/3 of the season so far.

Yet here we are. Top of the league.

if it was JUST dismal dross and were were near the bottom I could understand the negativity.
We 've not exactly set the world on fire with many performances this season. I agree.Yet were currently top of the league. Not that many sides in any league constantly put on entertaining football all the time. Ask any Arsenal fan.
Our squad is a collection of recent academy boys, free or cheap option players , loan players and a smattering of quality signings, well maybe 3 or 4 at a push.
To expect dominating entertaining exciting football for the majority of the season is nonsense.
I 've not been happy with some of our displays but I'm not complaining either. Id rather be where we are now than at the other end of the table. Then you'd have something to moan about.

 

[LondonBlade89]

This stuff is so tiresome. You’d never know we were top of the league. At some point the people moaning are going to look back on this and feel embarrassed. Imagine supporting a team top of the league and spending all of your team moaning when we don’t get three points every game.

 

[Ron_Justice]

Surely at this stage of the season points on the board are the primary indicator of ‘good’ performances?

Finding a way to win is a painfully undervalued quality. As it stands, we have accumulated more points on the pitch than any other team in the league.

What exactly are you getting at in your OP? Would you rather swap places with Middlesbrough or Sunderland, simply because they have younger, more fashionable managers and play ‘the right way’?

Because I would personally rather see a team replete with grit, resilience, individual quality and a knack for walking away with 3 points most weeks - a team we have built in the space of 2 transfer windows, no less.

Dear me. Short memories on this forum.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

People on here saying’ We’re top of the league, yet people are still moaning’
Well it’s with good reason, from an entertainment perspective the football that we play ranges from a 9 to a 2 but is most often around a 4.
Why we play this fucking turgid, boring possession based football is absolutely beyond me?
We have the players/squad to absolutely destroy the majority of teams in the Championship. The home game v Middlesbrough was fantastic, we thrashed them and in the end scoreline flattered them, because we were miles ahead in every department. Against Leeds, we started in the same style and had them penned in their own box for most of the first half.
Why, we don’t play that aggressive in your face attacking style of football every week is beyond me, because when we do, no one can live with us and we’d be several points better off, if we’d consistently employed those tactics all season.
I think Wilder, likes to regard himself as a modern, footballing tactician, rotating the squad, resting players and utilising inverted wingers. He’s basically Poundland Pep, trying to emulate the style of the top Premier league robots with a hugely inferior squad of players.
Please, for the remainder of this season, can we just play the strongest squad available, stop rolling it out to the wing backs, just be aggressive, play attack minded football, close down the opposition, get in their faces and outwork them. By all means, play the close control, intricate one touch football, that we excell at, but for Christ sake let’s do it their fucking box, instead of ours!!!
Let’s get the fans out of their seats, show some passion and generate an atmosphere, because if we do, promotion will take care of itself!

I really don't think we are a possession based team at all.

Quite the opposite.

I'd be surprised if we haven't had less of the ball in most of our games, to be honest.
We very rarely score a goal from patient build-up.