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I've been offline for the majority of the last four days, Thursday and Friday with work and Saturday and Sunday with not wanting to witness arguments. I do apologise if any of this is mentioned elsewhere, but frankly, I don't think I've got time to read everything that's come about from this weekend :)

Now a lot of people accuse me of being an optimist. And generally, that's true. If I didn't enjoy watching United, I wouldn't go. It should be a leisure pastime, not a chore or a penance and frankly, I've got enough to whinge about without football getting me too down.

I'm also not one for thinking that sacking a manager is a generally good thing to do. Once you get into that chop and change routine, it's a very difficult one to get out of and I do think that managers need time to make a difference.

However, it was clear on Saturday that something drastically needed to change.

If Kilgallon thinks he's worth millions and Premiership place on that performance, I think the peroxide has bleached his brain.

Kyel Reid, so exciting in preseason, looked as though he thought he was kicking at rugby posts.

Almost everyone on the pitch shinning the ball into touch without any pressure, or getting it tangled under their feet, or completely failing to make a pass.

It looked as though we had a team made up of people who'd never seen each other before!

Now the result was disappointing. Their first goal was a cracker but the other two came from simple schoolboy stuff. It was the performance that disappointed me most, especially when compared to Scunthorpe - they played like we used to.

You have a team of players who, on their own, aren't technically fantastic. But put them together and they are greater than the sum of their parts. A hardworking team who play for each other and cover each others' limitations. That's how we played so effectively under Warnock. And it takes a strong leader to galvanise that spirit, which brings us on to Blackwell.

Now I'm not going to call the man names like I've seen other people doing, because frankly, I don't see the point. However, I do think the man is out of his depth. I think he lacks the right personality when times are bad to turn things around, relying on momentum and keeping a happy status quo when things are rosy in the garden. The players he's brought in ought to be good ones, but for some reason, they aren't playing well enough for league one, never mind for however many United fans think we ought to be pushing for promotion.

I'm not sure whether the answer is a conscious effort at team building, a bollocking or a new manager. But if it is the latter, are we going to be in the same position in another two years time if we hit a rough patch? Because it's very easy to sack managers, it's a little more difficult to give them time. And because none of us know the answer or possess the ability to look into the future, all we can do is debate the ins and outs and try and retain a sense of humour to make up for our complete lack of control as to what goes on.

All I do know is that I'll be there long after Blackwell has gone. Because he isn't Sheffield United. Neither is Matt Kilgallon or Darius Henderson or anyone else who puts the shirt on, even Chris Morgan. Kevin McCabe isn't Sheffield United nor is Terry Robinson.

We are Sheffield United, you lot and me. So while times might be difficult or disappoint, we long may speculate into what the answer may be and some may even drift away, most United fans, deep down, know that they wouldn't support anyone else in the world.

So with that in mind, can we keep it friendly? :)
 

Depends how long I've got to wait for my Brokelads points for my winning bet.....:thumbdown:

Ooh, not that long surprsingly
 
Depends how long I've got to wait for my Brokelads points for my winning bet.....:thumbdown:

Ooh, not that long surprsingly

Yeah... was gonna say. It was paid out this morning :)
 
You want to see what I'm like when I win real money.......
 
I need to wipe my eyes now.
I am a little bit dreading saturday because I feel it will be hijacked by the negative elements we have. can I come for another hug if its still going wrong?
 
good to see a blanced view for a change - i do think we have two big problems though,firstly the expectations of fans driven by the club.talk at the beginning of the season of having another go and bringing in real quality raised everyones expectation levels when in reality most blades would have thought another playoff place was the best we could really hope for.
the second point is the style of football,its truely awfull.blackwell has always relied on results rather than performances but now that has gone i can't really see him turning things around.i don't want to see anyone out of a job but how will he change our style of play when he doesn't know how to play any other way?
 
can I come for another hug if its still going wrong?

Of course you can have a hug... unless of course you would prefer a big manly hug, in which case, Foxy is the best person to ask :hug:
 
I don't get the "fans expectations" argument at all, it was Kevin McCabe himself on the pitch at the promotion party in 2006 after the Palace game who more or less said "you will not see Championship celebrations like this again".

I think he was right :-)
 
I don't get the "fans expectations" argument at all, it was Kevin McCabe himself on the pitch at the promotion party in 2006 after the Palace game who more or less said "you will not see Championship celebrations like this again".

I think he was right :-)

I don't think there's a single fan who blindly believes everything McCabe says. I'd say we had expectations to go up for the last 2 years purely based on the squads we had and the money we had to spend but given the cost cutting and squad changes this Summer, we were never going to be 'shoe-ins' this season.

Where I do think expectations are wrong is when people say 'we should be beating the likes of..........' as if we have a divine right to beat so called smaller clubs.
 
Where I do think expectations are wrong is when people say 'we should be beating the likes of..........' as if we have a divine right to beat so called smaller clubs.

I agree.

What I really think they mean is "we should be giving....... a good game" which is probably true. With all the millions of pounds worth of players on the pitch in white and red shirts, we ought to be giving anyone a game. Whether we win that game or not is another matter.
 
thats my point about expectations driven by the club - if through the club our expectations were to finish 6th and we finished 3rd it would be a relatively good season where as if we finished 10th with the same expectation level a disaster.communication as stated on the forum is pretty poor coming from the club - this needs to change
 
I agree.

What I really think they mean is "we should be giving....... a good game" which is probably true. With all the millions of pounds worth of players on the pitch in white and red shirts, we ought to be giving anyone a game. Whether we win that game or not is another matter.

Not so sure you're right there Linz, I think they mean exactly that, 'Sheffield United should be beating the likes of Swansea, Scunthorpe' etc etc purely on the basis of history and the fact we are 'a bigger club'. People can, and should, expect effort but there are some who will look at a fixture and expect us to be winning it which is asking for trouble, especially in this division.

Take tomorrow, you can expect a few posts on here, you'll be able to hear them on Football Heaven, 'we should be beating the likes of Blackpool'. Forget the fact they have the best home record in the division at the moment, are currently 5th in the table and we're in a mess.
 

Great post Linz.

I have defended Blackwell at times, but I can no longer do that. I think the option is a new manger. As you say he is out of his depth. There is a list of reasons as long as my arm why he is not good enough, but i'll spare you guys as you've heard (and read them on here) a hundred times before.

Taking a step back from recent performances, the last few seasons and la de da I feel the need to take in the bigger picture and ask the key question 'Is KB the man to tak us back to the Premiership and keep us there?' For me it's a resounding No. We need to start looking for that man who is capable of doing that, because quite frankly Blackwell isn't.
 
Personally i want Blackwell out. Not wanted him from the start as i personally didn't think he was good enough and too inexperienced to take us to the premiership.

With McCabes financial backing (or not so much of lately) I can only think of 2 thinks, Blackwell stays on as manager. Or he goes and speed is installed. We won't get anyone else in due to the money situation, even from a lower league. And again, i don't think speed is capable of taking us up.

Only time shall show!
 
Sacking him may appease some fans, but if the same people are given the task of finding a successor, is it going to be the resolution we all want?

I don't think we are going to get any better than another do-a-job manager if there's no money to spend.
 
I like yourself linz have not posted for a while but i'm beginning to think a change maybe needed.

When we got Blackwell, i was delighted, mainly because he knew what the fans wanted and i was glad to see the back of nobson. Also, when he did come in, he got us playing well, the end of that season we played some great stuff, beating Hull with 10 men was a highlight.

However, some of the things he has said, and done are very hypicritical, also i think he has gone back on his word a few times with players.

One thing he said sticks in my mind, was regarding Billy Sharp. About this time last season he hit a hat trick against QPR, and he said he would pay 10 million for him. Now, he's a Donny on loan.......

I know managers shoot there mouth off after a game, but come on. We are really short up front, even if Billy didnt score many he worked his socks off for the team!
 
During Warnock's Championship seasons it was completely the opposite with no-mark players, old duffers and dead-beats performing above and beyond their potential. Now, there's a growing list of highly-rated, proven, high-earners who, for whatever reason, aren't reaching their potential. It's just not United. :(
 
I think our performances and mentality this season can be summed up in the comments Blackie made re Kyle Walker at the end of the game on Sat.

‘Kyle turned his ankle on Friday. We didn’t want to expose him too much so we moved him further forward.’

In other words ‘We don’t like to use the wings and we always bypass the midfield anyway, so by putting him on the right wing we were pretty sure he wouldn’t be involved too much.’

You would like to think that when going up against a team hotly tipped for relegation, the manager would be thinking/expecting our right winger to be more heavily involved then our right back???
 
Saturday i was going well for me an mi thoughts were i wished i were in France wi our gert !
then i heard the score/ performance by my beloved team an i wished even harder i was in France.
 
We shouldn't be beating the likes of Scunny, Swansea et al every week. We should be beating the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd and company every week. We should be up at the top of the Premier League, competing for trophies and glory with a side full of internationals. And I should be jetting in for every home match from my extensive Spanish estate, whisked hither and thither by private jet and expensive Italian car.

In the real world however we don't have a divine right to anything, apart the right to pay our money or not. It'd be nice to be tonking everybody, but I don't expect it.
 
I think our performances and mentality this season can be summed up in the comments Blackie made re Kyle Walker at the end of the game on Sat.

‘Kyle turned his ankle on Friday. We didn’t want to expose him too much so we moved him further forward.’

In other words ‘We don’t like to use the wings and we always bypass the midfield anyway, so by putting him on the right wing we were pretty sure he wouldn’t be involved too much.’

You would like to think that when going up against a team hotly tipped for relegation, the manager would be thinking/expecting our right winger to be more heavily involved then our right back???

Heard that and it is truly unbelievable.
 
We are Sheffield United, you lot and me. So while times might be difficult or disappoint, we long may speculate into what the answer may be and some may even drift away, most United fans, deep down, know that they wouldn't support anyone else in the world



i think that the above is a very good point and well put :)
 
i always resite this when im feeling low about sheffield united...

"IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!"

Sheffield United will be playing 4-5 FUCKING 1, with only 6 subs

COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE WIZARDS!!!!!!!!!!!
 
i always resite this when im feeling low about sheffield united...

"IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!"

Sheffield United will be playing 4-5 FUCKING 1, with only 6 subs

COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE WIZARDS!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol:

We might as well get Benson & Hedges in after recent performances ;)
 

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